Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Elendil, King of Men, Town Sample PM Example.
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Passive Abilities
Invincible: You cannot be killed by any means, including lynch.
Active Abilities
[Oneshot]The Wrath of Men: One time during the game during the day phase, you may destroy those who would oppose you.
Special
You?re not actually in the game cause you aren?t alive anymore, duh.
You win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Elendil, King of Men, Vanilla Townie.
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Unfortunately you have only your voice and your vote.
You win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Morgoth, the First Dark Lord, Mafia Sample PM Example
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Passive Abilities
Vala: You are a God, once the mightiest of the immortal Valar. Thus you are completely invincible.
Active Abilities
The Dark Lord: At any time during the game, you may kill everyone voting for you. How imba.
Factional Ability
You may carry out kills on behalf of the Mafia. Your personal kill flavor is ?utterly obliterated.?
Special
You're actually chained in the Void and unable to play. Sorry!
Safeclaim: You know that Manw?, King of the Valar is not in the game.
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You win when the Mafia outnumbers every other faction in the game.
Your allies are:
NAME
This sounds like a proper nerdfest. I'm in!any nerd would tell you *cough* that its not possible to hide orcs or uruk-hai in human society and have them commit murder and such
This sounds like a proper nerdfest. I'm in!any nerd would tell you *cough* that its not possible to hide orcs or uruk-hai in human society and have them commit murder and such
yes humans supported sauron but they were sandniggers and barbarians so they would be easy to spot
magic is very limeted in lord of the rings nothing fancy like you see in WoW or skyrim for example just very basic nothing that can alter appearance or anything
he was misteken for a boulder... so that means your visible even as a boulder
Invisibility/camouflage. Same shit! Perception modifiers!
I'd join but I didn't get the rules and generally how this is played, the mechanics etc. I think I'm not nerd enough to play this.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)
I meant to ask how many of these cycles it usually takes before the game is over? :P
K, update and bump.
Game will start next tuesday 28th of februari 2012. Ill be sending a reminder to everyone on sunday and Ill rebalance for a smaller game if there are no extra contenders.
so this nerd shit isn't happening?
Prove that it statistically favours red yoica.
Until you can, I want to lynch you.
Well RNG could go both ways.
It puts the ball in the red hands though since they know whos red.
Grilly, what's your logic for voting for Grishnag?
Just curious, since he haven't said anything.
Voted for Grishnag, as he hasn't posted, and is a good a target as any. If he posts some thoughts and data, I will likely change it to someone else.ofcourse i havent posted today when i dont have access to my pc.. i come on irc during lunch but its on my phone and its not exactly easy post there
As I have stated in my last few posts, I think Kesh is Red, however I also think him stating he is red, therefore getting himself lynched day one, is somehow beneficial to the Reds, either because he is immune to the lynch, forced to by role, or that it is somehow beneficial to the reds. Because of this, I wouldn't vote for him day one, as even if I am wrong, I know he is red day two. I think if we manage to get a non-known red day one, and know about Kesh as a red, it is a much better result than having a lynch go on a un-lynch-able Kesh, and not having a chance of getting a Red lynch day one.this however i can agree with, i think he is a red but there seems to be something else going on with why he said he was a red
As for the RNG voting Palmar broight up, i personally isnt a huge fan of it. However it might bring out some misplay from one of the Reds. But how to choose who to "RNG" is kinda where my chain jumps off, since in my book rng would mean to throw a 12sided dice and see who dies.. Which would be ignoring the entire day 1 posting and negating the info gotten from day one to maybe get a good lynch.you shouldnt be a fan of it because the RNG isnt in the towns favor there isnt going to be a 50/50 split between the town and the ganstahs because 1 misslynch would mean the game ends
Palmar your reason to lynch TTaM is that he claimed red as the first person to post, without considering underlying courses. I know you have loads of experience with this game, but I just don't see him being that retarded. Thats like throwing the game before it even begins.seems to me that he wants his fellow mobster to die for some reason
I read it too :P
(Reads the tiny text at the end of Grish's post)has nothing to do with this current game running to be fair
I can't decide of Palmar is being lazy or scummy...
You're usually way more thorough than this.
Title: Re: Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -
Post by: Surim on March 04, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
Sounds good. How we going to RNG it?
Title: Re: Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -This is mainly why i think Surim might be part of the Townies and is why he gets my vote for today.
Post by: Surim on March 05, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
what would the harm of revealing a Blue to possibly get a Red's name? I would still stand by my previous statement saying that Matt could reveal a person who he claims is red, but in fact isnt and we would land up lynching a fellow townie.
do we have to vote today or is it tommorow?
My question to Grilly: If we lynch TTaM, and that fails, how would we know more about anyone? We would know that TTaM was lynch-immune, we would probably lose a green or blue, and we go back to square one. We could then try to re-lynch TTaM hoping it was a one night thing, but in my mind, right now he has a guardian angel over his head.
Fuck it, this is probably the dumbest town idea I've ever seen. Let's not lynch matt.
I don't want to lynch surim, sky, eetion, yoica either.
Fuck it, this is probably the dumbest town idea I've ever seen. Let's not lynch matt.
I don't want to lynch surim, sky, eetion, yoica either.
Uturn.
Yah, he voted for nach in the thread and explained it by nach trying to a out a blue. While it's probably the dumbest shit I've seen in a mafia game..
Wow.
Okay, so here's something to discuss, this is the order in which we will lynch people, from highest priority to lowest.
Scum -> Liars -> Stupid -> Default to lynching Nach.
Ok here is a suggestion.
What we do is we use a RNG to select the day 1 lynch. Is everyone happy with the idea?
Prove that it statistically favours red yoica.
Until you can, I want to lynch you.
Palmar saying "lets just Rng day 1" is suspicious to me, as that's exactly what I normally say, to which he always has replied that I am being retarded by saying that. So him taking that tact is one of two things, imo:
1. He is red, and trying to get a rng green kill.
or 2. He is green, and just threw that out there as his opening gambit, to get the ball rolling, then going on to Yoica when he objected. This is more likely imo, as rng red kill is far more harmful than rng green kill early on.
I want to hear from grishnag.
Barring a better lynch we kill TTaM for stupid. The chances of there being a role that actually forces someone to claim red in the game.
I am going to re-read the thread later and I'll point out some stuff I notice. In addition, those of you who haven't posted at all should probably start doing so now.
I meant to say the chances are very small.
In addition, we'll be stuck thinking about it forever if he's telling the truth or not.
Claim scum -> die.
If he's town he's dumb.
this is a 12 man game. Scum with lynch immunity would be complete overkill.
Seriously hugman, that logic is so bad that now I'm confused. Are you really that dumb, or are you scum?
Because you seem to believe Kesh is actually red, there is no reason not to vote him. the only reason to leave him alive is if you genuinely think he can be nothing but town given this dumb gambit he's decided to pull.
If you find red, you lynch him. Then you carry on.
Don't be terrible, vote for matt.
Just to point out a few obvious things. It seems quite likely skymunken is town, I'm not sure about Eetion but he could possible be town too.Then we get several posts, which don't prove anything, fog it up a bit, and end with, maybe Skymonken, who is also suspicous of this kesh thing, is town. This is an attempt to pull back from saying we should 100% lynch kesh, without saying it, by supporting some who doesn't want to lynch him.
I obviously have no idea how to read half of IE.
There's actually a chance yoica is town, but I wouldn't bet my head on it.
I actually don't like the Surim lynch. There's nothing in his filter that screams one alignment or the other.
I'd much rather just kill MaTT for derp.
Don't wifom yourself too much about the setup. Cwave hasn't designed setups before, so I'm pretty sure he would not include ridiculous dumb stupid roles that are forced to roleclaim or something silly.
I mean, if matt had later entered the thread with some reasonable amount of time left in the day, and tried to explain his bullshit, I might have listened... but by now it's 3 hours left in the day.
He's the best lynch today. Any lynch we go for from now one is going to be a rushed dumb lynch that has no chance of hitting scum. If he flips town feel free to call me scum all you want.
Not to mention, policy lynching stupid shit like this might improve play in IE games.
There's actually a decent chance, given his vote on nachmanun, that this ridiculous gambit is something he thought of as town.
I need to rethink this shit over a dota game. Will let you know.
Fuck it, this is probably the dumbest town idea I've ever seen. Let's not lynch matt.
I don't want to lynch surim, sky, eetion, yoica either.
I might also be open to lynching nachmanun or maix, although maix seems less likely to be scum than the other two.
Is grilly even playing? It's not good when people forget you, that means you're useless.
Grish is just a complete null at the moment.
Yah, he voted for nach in the thread and explained it by nach trying to a out a blue. While it's probably the dumbest shit I've seen in a mafia game, it's more likely he'd think of this gambit as town. It's just hard to imagine him thinking of this gambit as scum, since he seems to have had this idea for a while (instead of just randomly claiming it like I originally assumed).
Like the connection that his idea was that anyone who wanted to out a blue might be scum, is of course terrible, but it also means he probably sat there and thought about it, which means he's probably town.
Pro-tip: changing your mind is not scummy.
Also, anyone voting for me based on the fact that I'm actually reading the thread and making opinions that are up for change, if I see something that is valid enough to change it, is approaching the game in the completely wrong fashion.
It's strictly dumb to think that has anything to do with being scum, because it's actually a bit of a towntell as it forces me to make intelligent explanations.
I think tyler is not putting any effort into the game, which is weird compared to the games he has already played. Before I changed my mind on matt he agreed with me, which is fine, but I'd expect him to re-evalute that opinion now.
Post by: Nachmanun on March 05, 2012, 01:47:09 PMSpecificly this line concerns me the most, what i read is basicly, "hey blues there is a slight chance this guy has some sort of imbalanced ability that points out a red if you tell us all you got a special power"
What if TTaM is the dark lord, is he even lynchable if he is?
Pretty sure his declaration is required of the role rather than TTaM having some kind of doublebluff stroke of genious.
What if his claims are true aswell, that we can trade blues names for reds? If we seem to have some kind of doctor, blue could be kept alive or we could just vigilante-kill whichever reds name we find out? I think it's something worth exploring atleast. If not we could just kill him tomorrow.
Post by: Nachmanun on March 05, 2012, 09:36:24 PMAs it progresses he doesnt really come with much more than him being curious about what TTaM turns up as, and for that is the reason he votes for him. I find it either sloppy Town play or mafia trying to get an easy vote done.
He could just be the village idiot aswell...
I'm too curious by now to not vote for him.
I know this might sound stupid, but from a roleplaying perspective aren't we currently "sleeping" ? Are we allowed to continue discussing during night, or are we supposed to shut up?
However around voting some people seemed to get a certain hate on to Palmar, whom i still have a hard time believing to be part of the Mafia, even with his sudden U-turn, i still follow his way of thinking in a sort. Also Palmar has done a lot of contribution compared to others, one of them being discussion and most of WIFOM games won by town is caused by discussion because it pulls out the scums from their hiding.
What changed is obviously the fact that Matt gave a short, but believable explanation of his actions. With no explanation there was nothing to it but him just claiming scum, but as soon as he revealed the plan was to stupidly try to out fish out reds who might want to out blues and vote for them, that showed me two things.
Yeah I see that now, but I don't buy it. It is too flimsy.
This is how I see Kesh. He is a green who has rng'ed a role which requires him to state that he is Red day 1. He is also not allowed to post about this declaration, if not post at all on day 1. He makes the post stating he is Red. He isn't allowed to post.Quote
Cwave, can you just tell us if there are post-restrictions in the game
Pro-tip, there aren't, I've told you multiple times there aren't and yet you hang on to it.There is too much wrongness about your play this game, you are acting too scummie, and you got a green killed without even considering the alternatives. You are once again, pushing this "I am good at mafia" line, rather than making posts with solid logic, and clear intentions. This is scummie.
I have already used more solid logic than you, I used it to defend TTaM, problem is he was way too late, not that he should never have done this shit anyway. There are clear intentions with all my posts, even if you may be too ignorant of the situation to see it.
He voted for me to try and save his own skin. He has no clue how to play mafia as he has repeatedly shown in IE games. He has no additional information relevant to the flip except he knows he is a mislynch. The truth is, I knew that too, as I've explained.
Since it's night time anyway, it's kinda irrelevant what I think of your alignment. You have reached the completely wrong conclusion with terrible or non-existant arguments to back it up. I'll leave it until daytime to figure out why you're wrong.
Yeah I see that now, but I don't buy it. It is too flimsy.
This is how I see Kesh. He is a green who has rng'ed a role which requires him to state that he is Red day 1. He is also not allowed to post about this declaration, if not post at all on day 1. He makes the post stating he is Red. He isn't allowed to post.
There is too much wrongness about your play this game, you are acting too scummie, and you got a green killed without even considering the alternatives. You are once again, pushing this "I am good at mafia" line, rather than making posts with solid logic, and clear intentions. This is scummie.
Cwave, can you just tell us if there are post-restrictions in the game
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You are Frodo Baggins, the Ringbearer, Vanilla Townie.
You have your voice and your vote.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Gandalf the White, Town Jack of All Trades.
[Oneshot]Shadowfax: One time during the game during the night phase, you may summon the legendary steed Shadowfax. With Shadowfax at your side none can hope to outrun you; you may track your target and learn who they visit.
[Oneshot]Medic: One time during the game during the night phase, you may watch over your target and shield then from harm.
[Oneshot]Wisdom: One time during the game during the night phase, you may divine whether or not your target is capable of killing people. This will not reveal alignment to you, only whether or not they have KP.
You win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
To start of with Ive got Nachmanun, he hasnt really contributed a whole lot to the game in his day 1 posts, he has mostly been rambling around about TTaM.QuotePost by: Nachmanun on March 05, 2012, 01:47:09 PMSpecificly this line concerns me the most, what i read is basicly, "hey blues there is a slight chance this guy has some sort of imbalanced ability that points out a red if you tell us all you got a special power"
What if TTaM is the dark lord, is he even lynchable if he is?
Pretty sure his declaration is required of the role rather than TTaM having some kind of doublebluff stroke of genious.
What if his claims are true aswell, that we can trade blues names for reds? If we seem to have some kind of doctor, blue could be kept alive or we could just vigilante-kill whichever reds name we find out? I think it's something worth exploring atleast. If not we could just kill him tomorrow.QuotePost by: Nachmanun on March 05, 2012, 09:36:24 PMAs it progresses he doesnt really come with much more than him being curious about what TTaM turns up as, and for that is the reason he votes for him. I find it either sloppy Town play or mafia trying to get an easy vote done.
He could just be the village idiot aswell...
I'm too curious by now to not vote for him.
Yeah, now we think about lynching you tyler.
Give me your top 3 scum reads in the game.
I just came to realise a flaw in my accusations towards Nach.
If he were a red, wouldn't he then be fully aware of that TTaM was trying to pull some crazy stunt drawing out reds? It seems to me like Nach "fell for it", but he can't be faulted for that as he wouldn't have made that post if he knew TTaM was a townie.
##Vote: Grishnagif eetion does vote for me i would just like to point this quote out
Need one more vote on Grishnag pls!
##Vote: Grishnagif eetion does vote for me i would just like to point this quote out
Need one more vote on Grishnag pls!
You are Aragorn, King Elessar Telcontar, Town Messenger.It is now night!
Messenger: One night phase you may choose a target to communicate with privately over the next day phase. Your target will not be given your identity nor your alignment. You will not be given your target’s role nor alignment. I will provide you with the link to your Quicktopic at the start of the day phase. It is advised that you remain anonymous, posting under an identity not related to your role or name. You may not communicate with your target after the day phase is over.
Greens who voted Surim.Do elaborate!
You are morons.
Post by: Maix on March 08, 2012, 04:17:18 PM
According to the reasons and proof that I understood just skimming through the thread, it looks like Nach and Grish seem the most red to me, I won't be surprised if they both get lynched just out of curiosity. It's probably a dumb low quality commentary from me, so excuse me, but truth is simple, however it's a tough task to quote all sources.
Voting from people until now almost makes sense to me, only it seemed like Surim was from the good guys, not sure why 2 people go voting for him, however I will be curious to see what his side actually is.
However, lynching TTaM just out of curiosity didn't make the majority happy, expectations were different, therefore every lynch just out of curiousity is a minor chance to catch red, so probably critical reasoning should prevail in our thoughts and decisions.
Post by: Maix on March 08, 2012, 09:42:34 PMI think it is fair to assume that Hugman is one of the more obvious town players, he's been playing the villager game, and besides Nach is currently the two people i believe the most to be town players. So why on earth Surim might put Hugman on to his priority list i dont know, but i would like if you would elaborate for this statement Maix.
Ok so maybe it just seemed Surim was someone, looking at the old posts he seems to fight with people who have prooven to not be scum.
Looking back in the old posts, I saw Hugman opposing Palmar, Hugman also voted against Palmar in the first lynch.
In short these are my new voting priorities: Surim, Hugman.
The Surim lynch was so fucking obviously a Red pushed bandwagon, but THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO, BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T POSTING OR EVEN ABOUT TO HELP STOP IT.
Surim: First he goes around kissing Palmar's ass and then bails on him as soon as Palmar changes his votes and Hugman in turn votes for Palmar. This could've been good red play if the bandwagoning on Palmar had continued on to lynch him. Then on day 2 he is shocked Palmar is dead?! Almost certainly a red imo
Maix: I think he is Red. Shifted vote from Grishnag to Surim, which sealed the lynch. Since there was no posting on this, and no indication, I think he was told to by fellow Reds, rather than him just been really new and stupid. There is a chance they sacrifice him, but it seals surim's lynch, and he can just claim he is new.
Maix' vote comes last, and the way I see it, Maix being red and Yoica being red are mutually exclusive unless they are pulling some confusing scheme.
So, to summarize my thoughts: Either Yoica is red and Grish/Maix are townies, or Grish/Maix are red and Yoica is townie. Leaning towards Yoica being scum at the moment, though!
You are Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard.
Active Ability
Mister Frodo: You are Frodo’s closest and most faithful companion and you know for sure that mister Frodo only has the Town’s best intentions at heart. However, you and Frodo have become seperated and a such, you are offering your services to other people. Every night you must PM the hosts with a target of your choosing. Any kill actions performed on the target of your choice, will instead be redirected onto you.
Tyler = red, is it or is it not? Imo next to be lynched
Oh I forgot to mention. Hugs last vote before he died was on Grish. The reds ignored a proven town, Nach, to kill Hugman. The only possible reason for this was that they were more worried about Hug than Nach...
I'm confident both Tyler and Yoica are red, we just need to coordinate so we can get the majority on one of them. As it stands now, Yoica has 2 votes and Grish has 2 (Tyler and Yoica voting for him), so Grish will be lynched. I'll change my vote to Tyler, and fingers crossed Nach does the same before time runs out!
Grish is mostlikely gonna jump the wagon aswell or just gonna throw a complete random vote. Atleast i wouldnt be surprised.i like how you flip all over the place eetion
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You are Uglúk, Mafia One Shot Vigi Shifter.
Passive Ability
[Oneshot]Bring the pain: When you get voted on by atleast 4 non-mafia players at the same time, you will gain a oneshot ability for the next night. You will not be able to use it night 1. When there are less then 7 townsmen alive, you need 3 votes.
Passive Ability
[Oneshot]Whatever my Master Desires: You were bred for the sole purpose of serving your masters, Sauron and Saruman, thus you are willing and able to perform any task they would wish. You will obtain the role of the first Mafia member to die.
You may carry out kills on behalf of the Mafia. Your personal kill flavor is “ravaged and eaten aliveâ€
You win when the Mafia outnumbers every other faction in the game.
Voting Maix screams scum.As for policy lynching, i generally thing it is something we would probably like to avoid, but if necessary.. then there is no other way i suppose.
You're actively not taking sides, perhaps due to lacking scum plan and you're voting for someone with 0 votes.
If we don't lose tonight, I suggest we policy-lynch Skymunken for being a spineless mudcrawler.
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You are Gimli, Lord of the Glittering Caves, son of Gloin. Town Announcer.
[Oneshot] One time per game during the day you can pm 3 words to the hosts. Those 3 words will get announced in the thread in an epic way. Choose them wisely.
You have your voice and your vote.
Yoica sounds fine.I support.
I have been suspecting Yoica for a long time now, so that's why I don't have to explain too much, just vote for him. I also have a pretty busy schedule as everybody else.
Hello and welcome to Middle-Earth!
You are Sauron, the Dark Lord, Mafia Godfather.
Passive Ability
Maia: You are a powerful Maia, a Demigod in your own right. As such you may choose to take on any form you wish. You will appear innocent to all investigations. Please PM me with what abilities you would like to investigate as having if a role DT (existence not guaranteed) were to check you, or if you would like to show up as Vanilla.
[Oneshot]The Wrath of Sauron: One time during the game you may have your kill become unblockable. You must be the one sent to perform this kill.
Factional Ability
You may carry out kills on behalf of the Mafia. Your personal kill flavor is “removed from all that is living.”
You win when the Mafia outnumbers every other faction in the game.
You are Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood, Town Vigilante.
Active Ability
[Oneshot]Mirked by Mirkwood: One time during the game during the night phase, you may destroy your enemies with your elite bow skills.
It's still early in the morning, lemme get some coffee and we'll get some discussion going.
You are some Vanilla townie.
You have your voice and your vote.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!sorry for the post when im dead
You are Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth, Vanilla Townie.You have your voice and your vote.
You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Arwen, the Evenstar, Vanilla Townie.
You have your voice and your vote.
You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!
You are Haldir, Elf of Lothlórien, Vanilla Townie.
You have your voice and your vote.
You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
[/color]Hello and welcome to Middle-Earth!
You are The Witch-King, Lord of the Nazgul, Mafia Roleblocker.
Active Ability
Fear: You are able to instill absolute paralyzing fear on your target. Each night phase, you may choose to roleblock a target.
Factional Ability
You may carry out kills on behalf of the Mafia. Your personal kill flavor is “devoured by darkness.”
You win when the Mafia outnumbers every other faction in the game.
Oh I forgot to mention. Hugs last vote before he died was on Grish. The reds ignored a proven town, Nach, to kill Hugman. The only possible reason for this was that they were more worried about Hug than Nach...
Maix, This was your first game, but you should have been more vocal, posted more, and definitely used your kill ability, once the town started to be quiet and useless, just to get some data.But what i would like to say in this matter for your next games Maix, saying stuff like this:
Remember there is the oneshot ability for the night phase, don't for example rush and vote for the one who is sure to be red, this one will be sure oneshotted.Is just really bad. We basicly had Maix figured as the Vigilante from 1 post on day one. So after roleblocking Palmar and Hugman, the nights they were killed I had Maix Roleblocked the entire game. Which is a pretty huge deal.
Imo try to find another red and vote for him, because the one who is sure to be red will be oneshotted.
It was my mistake, if I didn't mention about the oneshot ability, there wouldn't have been suspicion on me. Eetion gg, almost got me convinced you weren't red.