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Title: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Rucious on December 06, 2010, 03:40:51 am
Will be out early 2011.
Pretty nice graphics.
The trail is more look likes a film like Tron.
Eventhough it's like Crysis, Mass effect, I guess this will be a good game.

Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Grishnag on December 06, 2010, 01:25:54 pm

Pretty nice graphics.
The trail is more look likes a film like Tron.

that shit aint in game its all pre-rendered


Eventhough it's like Crysis, Mass effect

its nothing like Crysis
ill give you mass effect other then the fact that its a FPS/RPG and not TPS/RPG
never played the first game rucious?
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Goza on December 06, 2010, 02:38:21 pm
Here's some gameplay:


Not sure if excited.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Narw on September 04, 2011, 07:32:20 pm
Really loved the game, you have quite big freedom in how you aproach problems you face, you can play it like a shooter or a stealthy type of game. Graphic isnt amazing but does the job. Also it dosnt end fast, im at around 20h of sneaking etc and i guess at least 2h more ahead of me. Well spent money i would say.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Daekesh on September 04, 2011, 07:33:50 pm
I've played it for 37 hours according to steam.  Killed second boss a short while ago.  Stealth approach!
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Slash on September 04, 2011, 11:55:11 pm
the game's damn epic, gotta love it since it reminds me of MGS so much, especially that u can choose w/e u want to do :D <3 stealth
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Daekesh on September 05, 2011, 12:21:07 am
Heh, turns out I was a bit further than I thought.  Completed it!  41 hours.  Awesome game!
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Kawe / Dave on September 05, 2011, 05:20:48 am
So much attention to detail in the environments. Love it.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Goza on September 05, 2011, 11:43:17 am
Finished it yesterday, but actually I can't really understand all the super-praise this game is receiving. IMO, it reeks of "lazy PC port" and (for an AAA game) has too many small design flaws that all add up:

- Most of the UI elements seem to have been designed for "consoles & non-HD-TV" combos. The elements are just too large-scaled/too much zoomed in, thus show too little information at once and require too much scrolling (map, hacking). One noteable exception is the radar. That UI element is actually so small you need magnifying glasses to see anything else but "general enemy position".

- Ingame map. It's just good for checking in which general direction one has to go, but otherwise its too close up (see GUI flaws), and displays too little information. Ideas: Why aren't already visited rooms colored? Why can't I improve the map (get more location details) by info hacked from ingame terminals etc?

- Inventory from the stone age. Srsly, even after maxing it out, you're constantly annoyed by "inventory full" messages. Combined with the "take all" option when looting, it gets even worse because ammo for weapons you might not even possess starts filling up your inventory. Note to developer: "Take all" + "limited inventory space" == does not compute! "Found a weapon mod! Yay, lets go to inventory, temporarily drop a weapon so I can pick up the weapon mod. Now lets open the inventory to use the mod. Now lets pick up the dropped weapon again!" ....yay... isn't that userfriendly... I actually didn't use some weapons in the game (rocket launcher etc) cause I couldn't make room in my inv for them without dropping my other, better because modded+ammo weapons. That ain't "Uh, the game wants you to make CHOICES, dude!", it's just total shit design, because it limits you to your old stuff.

- Passwords I discovered are actually displayed by the game engine on the appropriate computer terminal. But - the game still wants me to manually enter them letter by letter? Why? Also, when playing with a gamepad, why can't I use my keyboard without first having to use the (otherwise unused) mouse to click the "type password here" field?

- Crappy hacking tutorial, I actually visited some web page to get info about it.

- No-fun & stupid in-your-face boss battles. The boss battles are the antonym to Deus Ex' "play as you like", because you're quite fcked if you don't have specific augmentation upgrades. Hacking enhancements are useless. One boss you can shoot in the face with the autogun for a minute, but instead use the Typhoon aug once or twice and she drops like a fly.

(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-jJRZhDr/0/L/i-jJRZhDr-XL.jpg)

- Largely terrible level design. The world hubs are prime examples of "how not to design your maps": Confusing, unnecessarily difficult & awkward to navigate. Full of copy&paste (apparentments; interiors; BOXES & CRATES!). On missions, I think the game could benefit from some "pre-mission briefing", providing you with a general layout overview of the location, because in it's current state, discovering secret passages/goals usually happens "by chance": When I finally found a security hacking station, I had already stunned/killed all enemies in the section, just because I had no clue where the security terminal is in the first place (your map just shows a bunch of identical "empty rooms" with no info at all). Regarding alternative routes: that's mostly ventilation shafts & breakable walls, yawn. Also, apparently noone at the police station is wondering that there is somebody crouching thru their ventilation shafts all the time. Must be a normal thing to do in the future. /sigh



So much attention to detail in the environments. Love it.

Care to explain? Other than the email thing, I don't see it.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Daekesh on September 05, 2011, 11:48:33 am
That's all true.  Despite that, I really found it fun.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Narw on September 05, 2011, 01:24:00 pm
Quote
Also, when playing with a gamepad, why can't I use my keyboard without first having to use the (otherwise unused) mouse to click the "type password here" field?

I actually lolled at this. Maybe couse they havent thought anyone would be sadomasochistic enough to play fps on a gamepad when you have a mouse and keyboard?!
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Goza on September 05, 2011, 01:29:39 pm
By now I play almost all PC games that support gamepads with a gamepad, shooter or not shooter. Have you actually tried it?
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Narw on September 05, 2011, 01:37:03 pm
FPS games feel wrong on gamepad.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Goza on September 05, 2011, 01:39:28 pm
What feels wrong is playing FPS that are using half your keyboard when you can instead lean back in your chair and have everything mapped on a single gamepad.

We're not talking about Counterstrike here.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Narw on September 05, 2011, 01:42:37 pm
Did you just called playing a fps game with mouse and keyboard wrong?
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Goza on September 05, 2011, 01:46:14 pm
Not sure where you read that. I call(ed) it "less comfortable".

I played FPS with keyboard/mouse for over a century no not even I am that old decade. But if you don't have to play competitive games and don't need that last edge which keyboard/mouse offers, using a gamepad is by now my preferred input device if the game properly supports it.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Narw on September 05, 2011, 04:14:54 pm
My point is that you concentrate on, lets be honest, minor annoyances while i enjoyed the game. The game that reminds me of first dues ex and to lesser extent system shock 2 (ahh, what game that was, i still remember how fucing scared i was while playing it!).

Also completed the game after 24h according to Steam. Also, didnt got pacifist achievment which annoyed me uberly as i dont recall i ever killed anything. Maybe one of thingies in last place accidently walked on some mine that was somewhere on walls, but rly :((((((((((((
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Rash on September 06, 2011, 02:16:19 am
Fuck this game! I was trying to be sneaky and shit, then I press Q a little too long and this entire police station is on my ass.

I hid myself in an air vent for 10 minutes, and then I decided to do this:
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(http://i.imgur.com/Iym2w.jpg)
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As soon as I left the police station, they all started shooting at me and now I have to start over because I'm stuck :P
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Daekesh on September 06, 2011, 02:19:17 am
Haha.
Title: Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Post by: Slash on September 06, 2011, 02:36:00 am
lol rash xD