Mafia II - Story of the Iron Edge - Ship Deck

[Grishnag]

##Vote: Kendoki

[Goza]

The crew's vote was almost unanimous. For too long, they have been deceived and manipulated. The security drones were ordered to arrest Emptyy, their Elected Captain of the Imperial Guard.

"Strong am I with the force. Without a fight, not yield I will."



But even the strongest rebel scum cannot fight the combined forces of the Empire for too long. As the laser shots finally cut throu his flesh, he uttered three final words. "There... is... another..."


Emptyy the Jedi Knight has been lynched.

It is now night 7, it will end 18:30 on Sunday.

##Night

[Eetion]

BYE SO LONG SUCKER

[Doomslay]

OLOL! YES

[Eetion]

Somehow i just knew that

[Sintrael]

Lol he had the evidence stacked against him man, you didnt "just know it" :p

[Eetion]

Big day for the Empire. The mastermind is dead and we are now left to find the remaining Rebel Droid.




Day 3
[Emptyy.2]: shankski, Chippen
[Vorte.6]: Shiftey, Eetion, Kawe, Vdti, Grishnag, Sintrael
[Vdti.7]: Doomslay, graxlos, Tyler, tronz, Vorte, Archz, Emptyy
[Chippen.1]: Kendoki

Day 4
[Vorte.7]: Doomslay, Graxlos, Sintrael, Tyler, Shiftey, Eetion, Grishnag
[Tyler.2]: Vorte, Archz
[Emptyy.3]: Tronz, Chippen, Shankski
[Chippen.1]: Kendoki
[Shankski.1]: Emptyy

Day 5
[Archz.9]: Grishnag, Eetion, Kendoki, Tyler, graxlos, Sintrael, shankski, Doomslay, Tronz
[Tronz.1]: Archz
[Sintrael.1]: Emptyy

Chippen - Modkilled

Day 6
[Emptyy.4]: Grishnag, Tronz, Graxlos, Shankski
[Shankski.4]: Eetion, Sintrael, Doomslay, Kendoki (1st to reach peak)
[Sintrael.1]: Emptyy

Day 7
[Emptyy.5]: Doomslay, Kendoki, Eetion, tronz, Sintrael
[Sintrael.1]: Emptyy
[Kendoki.1]: Grishnag

So I've had a couple of conversations prior to the lynching of Emptyy.
Some of it might be useful to the people alive when daylight comes once again.

I post this because i do not expect to be alive.
The people I've mainly been talking to is Emptyy, Kendoki and Tronz.

Two of the conversations were on IRC and Tronz were on Teamspeak (as we are danes its faster to talk rather than write).

Kendoki talk
[17:50] <Kendoki> i see your guys fear for the extra vote; but dont you think Tronz is a bit sus also, starting the Intrinsic vote, then getting saved by delling and with some non-informative posts?
[17:51] <eetion> nopes
[17:51] <eetion> I do not fear Tronz
[17:51] <eetion> Tronz never started anything
[17:51] <Kendoki> wut am i missing then?
[17:51] <eetion> he slapped a random vote out
[17:52] <eetion> your missing the math
[17:52] <eetion> really
[17:52] <Kendoki> dont you find it weird that when the Tronz wagon started by grax/shanks and mous dell all of a sudden made the switch to intrinsic?
[17:52] <eetion> i do
[17:53] <eetion> but ive talked a bit with grax before he died
[17:53] <eetion> and we discussed tronz
[17:53] <eetion> now what really is the question
[17:53] <eetion> why did you vote for chippen
[17:53] <eetion> and not vorte
[17:54] <eetion> on day 3 or 4
[17:54] <Kendoki> chippen was just a complete moron, no use for us at all with just voting, it turned out tho he could have helped us greatly
[17:54] <eetion> But there was no reason besides that,
[17:55] <Kendoki> but instead he decided to be a complete moron and get mod-killed.... =/
[17:55] <eetion> yet you didnt want to follow confirmed blues to battle?
[17:56] <Kendoki> it has several reason, his initial posting and votes, the fact when i got poked by Tyler for not voting the 2nd on the day he suddenly quickly post, the fact he did not vote for a captain
[18:03] <Eetion> instead of worrying about tronz,
[18:03] <Eetion> let me hear your thoughts on Doomslay
[18:04] <Kendoki> sheep?
[18:05] <Eetion> you just find him being herded by the majority
[18:05] <Eetion> ?
[18:05] <Kendoki> he did not bring anything usefull to the table as far as i see
[18:05] <Eetion> nope he havn't
[18:06] <Eetion> good good
[18:06] <Eetion> that said what about Sintrael?
[18:06] <Kendoki> i believe he is not a rebel
[18:06] <Kendoki> albeit he defended hard with my poke, but he did not read himself any posts
[18:07] <Kendoki> even tho he accused me of not reading anything... =/
[18:17] <Eetion> so who do you see as Rebels
[18:17] <Eetion> Tronz and?
[18:21] <Kendoki> its between grish, emptyy, doom, i r waiting for posts from them
[18:22] <Eetion> why is your vote still for Tronz then?
[18:23] <Kendoki> you ask me who i see as rebels; tronz and? i just said my 3 suspects who i suspect to be the second rebel still left
[18:23] <Eetion> if you dont suspect him
[18:23] <Eetion> what use is the vote for him
[18:24] <Kendoki> you dont understand what being said just now
[18:24] <Kendoki> i think tronz is a rebel
[18:24] <Kendoki> i doubting between grish, doom and emptyy to be the 2nd rebel
[18:27] <Kendoki> i r waiting for now from posts from emptyy as he said he will post something today if he doesnt make sense tho it will tip the balance towards him

 
Emptyy talk
[19:42] <Eetion> hey man, you go time for a talk?
[19:42] <Emptyy> yes, sure
[19:43] <Emptyy> I can't walk
[19:43] <Eetion> wanan TS or irc`?
[19:43] <Emptyy> irc
[19:43] <Emptyy> don't have TS on my laptop
[19:43] <Eetion> npnp
[19:43] <Eetion> Im just a bit curious,
[19:43] <Eetion> because now you've been having a thing going with Sintrael for the last 2 days
[19:44] <Eetion> and i still have yet to see some evidence present
[19:44] <Eetion> like as in a post of some sort,
[19:44] <Eetion> all you have said
[19:44] <Eetion> has been re read the forum,
[19:44] <Emptyy> actually.. (let me find it)
[19:45] <Eetion> i might just have missed a post,
[19:45] <Emptyy> this wall of text:
[19:45] <Emptyy> http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg102970#msg102970
[19:45] <Eetion> but im so extremely busy and my mind is blowing
[19:45] <Emptyy> ends with a reasoning towards Sintrael.
[19:46] <Emptyy> If you see through his posts, there is not much that a rebel wouldn't do.
[19:46] <Emptyy> He have not posted almost anything towards confirmed mafia.
[19:46] <Emptyy> The only thing that makes me wonder, is:
[19:47] <Emptyy> http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg102663#msg102663
[19:47] <Emptyy> this, towards vorte, is the only thing I've seen that implies that Sint ain't rebel
[19:48] <Emptyy> And he questions things which I find weird, like:
[19:48] <Emptyy> http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg102695#msg102695
[19:48] <Emptyy> could be that he just hasn't put much time into the game
[19:49] <Eetion> could be yes
[19:50] <Emptyy> btw, if he's mafia, Kendoki is not. If Kendoki is mafia, Sintrael is not.
[19:50] <Emptyy> http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg102757#msg102757
[19:50] <Eetion> im looking through the thread today
[19:50] <Eetion> the thing is
[19:50] <Eetion> at this point
[19:50] <Eetion> the only one i trust
[19:50] <Eetion> is myself
[19:50] <Emptyy> understandable
[19:50] <Eetion> and i have 3 people that can give me enough info
[19:51] <Eetion> to probably point of the last two
[19:51] <Eetion> if i miss on the lynch today
[19:51] <Eetion> but i would really not want to miss
[19:51] <Eetion> i was firm of ways towards archz and Shanks
[19:52] <Eetion> however there is so many "buts" in this game
[19:52] <Emptyy> Indeed, mindgame of magnitude.
[19:52] <Eetion> yea and having hangovers before a lynch isnt the best way to go along with it.
[19:53] <Eetion> but im still to question, why would Sintrael switch votes on day 3
[19:53] <Eetion> if he were to be Rebel
[19:53] <Eetion> from vdti to vorte
[19:53] <Eetion> (pretty sure he did)
[19:53] <Eetion> checking
[19:53] <Emptyy> Yes, he did.
[19:54] <Emptyy> That's also the thing which I mentioned 5 minutes ago. His turn towards Vorte is what makes him look less suspicious.
[19:54] <Eetion> yea
[19:55] <Emptyy> Gah, why couldn't Archz have been the droid. Then he would've been to some use this game
[19:55] <Eetion> why couldnt Intrinsic have been.
[19:56] <Emptyy> Damn chippen
[19:56] <Eetion> damn all of the silent ones,
[19:56] <Eetion> its not only chippen
[19:57] <Eetion> its just every silent fcking person
[19:57] <Eetion> ofcourse those of them imperials
[19:57] <Eetion> what do you think of Kendo?
[19:57] <Emptyy> on my 3rd
[19:58] <Emptyy> if Sint is innocent, on my 1st
[19:58] <Eetion> makes some sort sense
[19:58] <Emptyy> He has been very quiet, like Grish and Doomslay
[19:58] <Eetion> was about to ask
[19:58] <Eetion> grish and doom
[19:58] <Emptyy> I don't know.
[19:59] <Emptyy> I think that.. if Grish and Doom were mafia, they would've cared a LITTLE bit more
[19:59] <Eetion> probably
[19:59] <Eetion> what bout tronz?
[19:59] <Eetion> Kendo seems to have something towards him
[20:00] <Emptyy> yup
[20:00] <Emptyy> against Tronz _and_ Sintrael
[20:00] <Emptyy> Imo, Tronz + Kendo or Tronz + Sint are the most likely pair
[20:01] <Emptyy> I guess the last mafia could attempt to distance themselves
[20:01] <Eetion> could be trying to
[20:02] <Eetion> i still need to do more math on this z.z
[20:02] <Emptyy> kk.
[20:03] <Emptyy> Me too
[20:03] <Emptyy> I'll write a longer post before midnight
[20:03] <Emptyy> on it atm
[20:05] <Eetion> the only thing is
[20:05] <Eetion> i cant let you live
[20:06] <Eetion> i cant prove you 100% Imperial
[20:06] <Eetion> even if you were to be
[20:06] <Eetion> its just impossible
[20:06] <Emptyy> to prove me 100% imperial?
[20:06] <Eetion> yes
[20:07] <Eetion> the only way i can do prove it is to kill you
[20:07] <Eetion> z.z
[20:07] <Emptyy> and that doesn't go for everyone?
[20:07] <Eetion> it does
[20:07] <Emptyy> Do I seem like the least likely to be Imperial?
[20:07] <Eetion> but the major difference between you and everyone else
[20:07] <Eetion>  is that you got a double vote
[20:08] <Eetion> so if im wrong
[20:08] <Eetion> about you being imperial
[20:08] <Eetion> i lose this game
[20:08] <Eetion> however i can still win this game after your gone
[20:08] <Eetion> if your imperial
[20:09] <Eetion> as i know who to aim for
[20:09] <Eetion> its all simple math
[20:09] <Emptyy> Makes sense.
[20:09] <Eetion> no matter what
[20:09] <Eetion> i cant let you live a day longer
[20:10] <Emptyy> I guess this is why mafia didn't want captain spot.
[20:10] <Eetion> because if you turn out to be rebel
[20:10] <Eetion> it is 3 votes vs 3 votes on day 8
[20:10] <Eetion> and Rebels knows who to aim
[20:11] <Emptyy> I understand.
[20:11] <Eetion> but the Imperials still have a good 50% chance to miss
[20:11] <Eetion> if i whack you out know,
[20:11] <Eetion> its still 3 to 2
[20:11] <Eetion> in the worst case
[20:12] <Eetion> which gives a better advantage
[20:12] <Emptyy> I understand the logic.
[20:12] <Emptyy> Don't blame you.
[20:13] <Emptyy> Hope you can get the right kills tomorrow then =)
[20:13] <Eetion> well i can only hope they will listen to me
[20:13] <Eetion> in the night
[20:14] <Emptyy> You should post it before this night is over btw.


With what power i might have, i would like to say that i 99.9% do not believe that Tronz is a Rebel. All this conspiracy with him starting wagons and stuff just doesn't catch.
The day Shankski were Lynched, mainly by my hand i would say, which i genuinely regret, I talked briefly to Graxlos during night time and he told me, he'd spoken to Tronz and Shankski, Tronz and shankski have been defending one another and Tronz told Graxlos that Shankski was no Rebel. Even though both were Martyrs, one might think, why didnt he Martyr him then, but that wouldn't have put them in a better spot, it would only have left Shankski alive and not Tronz - proven green anycase.
So i would suggest Imperials to take Tronz out of their Equations.
Based on this i think it is safe to assume that your Day 8 lynch target very well cloud be Kendoki, he's been fishy and his recent conversation with me, makes me think he was trying to sway me away from emptyy, using the Tronz card.

Emptyy and Kendoki tried to make me change my mind on who to vote for in some way.
I know Emptyy somewhat says he suspects Kendo, but notice - he was only 3rd on the "list" and only "1st" if Sintrael was to be Innocent. But the thing is, if Sintrael had been lynched and shown green, Emptyy would be alive with a double vote, and it would be 3 votes against 3 votes, which left the actual game to be a matter of who was the fastest to bring the noice and vote, which ofcourse would leave Rebels with the huge advantage.

However as it looks now Imperials are up 4 against 1.
Tronz being one of the Imperials.

[Eetion]

Lol he had the evidence stacked against him man, you didnt "just know it" :p

It was something i told Tronz Earlier, i said to Tronz that i was pretty certain Emptyy was gonna show up as Jedi

[Goza]

Another night, another murder.



Eetion the Private has been brutally murdered!

It is now Day 8, which will end Tuesday 0:30.

##Day

[Sintrael]

NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

As discussed at length on IRC and from ET's final wall of text, its kendoki's turn to get strung up!

##Vote: Kendoki

[Doomslay]

Yep, talked with ET + Tronz on teamspeak extensively about this.

##Vote: Kendoki

[tronz]

talked a lot with eetion last night, before doom joined us and we did cover quite a few things that i now know for certain was not a manipulation from his side as he has now been proving to be a green. so i have no hesitation with lynching the target we had in mind.

##vote: Kendoki

[Kendoki]

I see you are all respecting Eetion last wish, i dont mind dying to prove you guys wrong, but with this mis-lynch and then the night kill you are down 2-1. Which is going to be very hard. Who you suspect when you will find out i r just Private?

I going to quote from Graxlos here.

Ok so it seems the mafiadudes like to frame people.

Eetion posted in the Night he suspected me and when the Night ends he is found murdered. Pretty obvious framing to me. Its the smartest thing the rebel could do, and you all walk right into it with yer eyes open.
Really, are you guys NOT seeing this? It happening all over again, we got several mislynch already because of the rebel framing people.

As for the IRC logs and the highlighted parts.
Its a shame he did not post all of it, he left more then half of it out.
Tho be it as it may, he asks me who my second suspect is, you see i explained everything right there, Tronz (for me a certainty) and then either Emptyy, Grish or Doom (unsure who of the three). I did go for Emptyy after his last post made no sense but created more choas.


Anyways; I just hope you guys are smart enough to see i am being framed.






As for Tronz, i think Tronz is the last rebel.

Here is the reason why i think Tronz is the rebel.

He votes a random vote on Intrinsic. (0 Tronz - 1 Intrinsic)
Graxlos, Shankski, Mouseh and Nach votes for Tronz (4 Tronz - 1 Intrinsic)
Delling makes a big post about Intrinsic. (4 Tronz - 2 Intrinsic)
Chippen votes Tronz : (5 Tronz - 2 Intrinsic)
Kendoki votes Tronz : (6 Tronz - 2 Intrinsic)
TTaM votes Tronz : (7 Tronz - 2 Intrinsic)
Tronz post some crap about why he is inactive, nothing of use, nothing of an excuse.
Nach switch to Intrinsic (6 Tronz - 3 Intrinsic)
Vdti votes Intrinsic (6 Tronz - 4 Intrinsic)
Shankski switch to Intrinsic (5 Tronz - 5 Intrinsic)
This point, Tronz will still die as he is the first to reach the 5 votes. Then :
Emptyy votes Intrinsic (5 Tronz - 7 Intrinsic)
Archz votes Intrinsic (5 Tronz - 8 Intrinsic)
Graxlos switches to Intrinsic (4 Tronz - 9 Intrinsic)
Blackwhale votes Intrinsic (4 Tronz - 10 Intrinsic)
Chippen switches to Delling (4 Tronz - 9 Intrinsic)
Day 1 ends.
 Note : the moment Tronz is ahead, first Delling (confirmed Rebel) comes in to the rescue, then Tronz himself needs to come on the stage to defend himself and then Emptyy (confirmed Rebel) makes the final rescue with his 2 votes.

After day 1 we see little from him, apart from one thing; we see that he doesnt want to tell Kawe his role cause he does not trust Kawe, yet later on the same day he votes on Blackwhale cause all of a sudden he trust Kawe. Staying yet again out of the spotlight. The heat is gone after that. He stays low, not drawing too much attention to him anymore. He posts little, mere votes or random one-liners, just enough not to get mod-killed and following the majority. All to stay out of trouble as he got in the beginning, namely not posting anything at all.

 

[Kendoki]

##Vote: Tronz

[Sintrael]

Well the idea behind getting you is that if your green we still have enough of us left to try again.

You look sus kendo, no two ways about it, if ur green ur doing it wrong :p