Counter Strike - 1.6! (fu source, FU)

[Smutten]

SO! I was just thinking about playing CS, and i thought
"WAAT, lets get some IE's to play with me!" so i log into the forums, but
I CANT FIND A DAMN POST BOUT IT! What the shizzle for dizzle!

Counter strike 1.6 HAS to be the perfect cs game, ever made so faar.
1.5 = fun, the hitbox was fucked, lets go headshot while sniping his toe.
Source = CMAAN! The hitbox has been changed from perfection to stupidity,
         and the damn graphs is RUINING it! WHATS UP WITH NOT BEEING ABLE TO
         SHOOT PEOPLE THROUGH MASSIVE WALLS?! The haxx is the skill, NUFF SAID!

SO! If you play 1.6, or HAVE played it before - give me a PEWPEWPLING!
I need nerds to play with me, and since ive been playing 6 years straight, i should
PWN U ALL USING TOUCHPAD! !!!!111 Don't believe me? TRY ME !!!

[Ino]

CS 1.6 ftw!

[Smutten]

Thats right!

Lets gather up later and PLAY!!

[Vorte]

Is this the game I blew up Ahkailon in while being on his team?

[Smutten]

Yes, thats correct vorteh :p

lets tell the story shall we?
Ahkailon is hiding in a dark place, on some map - when vorteh
comes running. Since ahk sucks balls, he starts shooting, but stops
when he realises that its a team-mate. Vorteh gets pissed of, and shoots him
in the head with a TMP xD

HAHA
was best compo ever!

[Daekesh]

beta 6 ftw.

[Kawe / Dave]

CoD4/5 are both better. I will install CS, and see if it less of a steaming pile of fail than I thought last time. That was a lot of fail, btw.

The way I see it, only reason people qq about source was because it was different enough that their old skillset from cs 1.6 that they couldn't instantly PWNERISE NOOBS and be REALLY PRO AND AWESOME AND COOL. That, or pure nostalgia and a backwards aversion to change.

[Inphy]

cs1.6 <3

I might be up for some games sometime.  I'll see if i can poke Inphyy and Crixalis aswell (true pro's of 1.6!)

[Grishnag]

CoD4/5 are both better. I will install CS, and see if it less of a steaming pile of fail than I thought last time. That was a lot of fail, btw.

finally someone who agrees with me can't talk about CoD5 though

[Smutten]

Well - we dont whine cause we dont pwn yet..
i still kill as maany people as i did on 1.6, but
the graphs make the weapons react slower, the hitbox is screwed (steam said this too)
and yeah, haxxing through walls ARE the skills..

You dont JUST need quick reactions..
sound, ingame gameplay, ingame IQ, and most important,
when you play 5v5 (etc) TEAMPLAY! Sitting in a dark place shooting
11 people in the back running past aint skills..

[Kawe / Dave]

Getting shot in the back because you're unable to see someone sitting in a corner is nothing to do with the game at all... change your graphics settings, get better eyes, or both.

Re. haxxing through walls, are you referring to bullet penetration, or wallhacks? Because like all other games we play together in IE, I don't think anyone is so OMFG MUST WIN TO GET ERECTION to be using any hacks. If you're just complaining about being shot through a wall via someone, it's more a case of L2P and stop being so predictable in where you stand behind cover, and adapt to the idea of every cardboard rectangle not being a steely fortress.

Regarding teamplay, Left 4 Dead pretty much destroys any other game in that department.

Moving on...

I played some CS again. It's not awful, and was definitely very good for when it was released. But playing it now it feels awfully dated and I'm not talking about the graphics (the gun models actually remain quite okay). Simple things like not having the choice to take aim at the cost of movement speed, or sprint at the cost of being able to shoot at all are quite glaring now. And Unreal floors it for pure reaction/accuracy rewarding.

Compared to the CoD series, it lacks a lot of polish. Check out http://www.xanga.com/DenKirson/632800688/item.html and have a read about cod4 - it's really impressive seeing the underlying design, and what an incredible job infinity ward did with balance. CoD5 is good too, but that's rather something to do with the fact Treyarch lifted a huge amount directly from CoD4.

[delling]

Pretty sure the only people that would WANT to play CS nowadays are people that are very good at CS, and not at other FPSes.

It makes sense, you don't want to drop an FPS that you spent years mastering, to play another game where noobs will own you.

Sadly, doesn't make CS a _good_ game, just... a game that some people still enjoy, because they're good at it.

Time Splitters 2 is FAR better

[Ahkailon]

Re. haxxing through walls, are you referring to bullet penetration, or wallhacks? Because like all other games we play together in IE, I don't think anyone is so OMFG MUST WIN TO GET ERECTION to be using any hacks. If you're just complaining about being shot through a wall via someone, it's more a case of L2P and stop being so predictable in where you stand behind cover, and adapt to the idea of every cardboard rectangle not being a steely fortress.

I'm quite sure he is talking about bullet penetration as I've seen him play quite a bit through the years, and I've never seen him cheat (and I've witnessed the MASSIVE amount of whine he has directed towards cheaters in-game (such as 16bit users)). Also, if you read what he is saying (though it might be difficult due to his strange linedivision (what's up with that?)) you will see that he is complaining about not beeing able to shoot people through walls in source, not beeing shot.

Edit: And more on topic; CS sucks donkey balls, TF2 rocks the cocks (coming from one who sucks at both).

[Lotinja]

Time splitters 2..... horrible...horrible... memories....

Robot Factory on hard......

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng...........

Played it when it just came out... Dear god, sat with a friend on Co-op and played Robot Factory for 7 hours straight untill we SOMEHOW by divine intervention cleared it

Then u play the final map and clear it on the first try without any problems



But the game was awesome!

[kagir]

Played CS beta through 1.6 for years and years (go 1.3!).. In fact most of my mice/heatsets throughout the years have been prizes from cups etc. Never bought Source though.

Kawe, Smutt is referring to an (nordic?) expression that means you predict where people (experience about how long it takes from a to b and sound) are and shoot them through the walls. He's not referring to wall hacks, i'm sure. Shooting through walls/objects is a big part of CS that makes the maps complex and shows if you've got a hang of it or not. Like Delling mentions.. You have to know it inside out to be really good. Once you are good, why get owned in newer/other games? There's a reason I never played Quake more than on random occasions during LANs!

Playing 1.6 with a bunch of you would be fun, yes.. well maybe.. CS is boring if you don't play with people on your same level.. And it goes both ways. Not trying to claim that I'm too pro to play with anyone, but it's the fact that you have to have been or are a FPS monster to have fun while playing with ones that have been/are. Else it's boom HS at LoS or through the wall that you're so dearly hugging while looking for your nades

Also, it takes alot longer time to go from noob to OK compared to game like DotA and other shooters like CoD (imo).