Iron Edge
Iron Edge => Recruitment => Raider Recruitment => Topic started by: Blankshot on August 11, 2010, 05:51:21 am
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Personal Information
Hi there.Im Murat.25 Years old.Living in Turkey.I just have done my universty and current looking for a job.
Character Information
For this part i would like to explain what i have in my wow life so i can be more clear about my experiance down there.
Chichî -> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&cn=Chich%C3%AE
Bigseksy -> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&cn=Bigseksy
Shamaluck -> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sunstrider&cn=Shamaluck
Zuuzu ->http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sunstrider&cn=Zuuzu
Elvîs -> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sunstrider&cn=Elv%C3%AEs
Adrîana ->http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sunstrider&cn=Adr%C3%AEana
Also currently lvling rogue named Bélla (45) but its not worth to link.
My all chars has Two spec but im able to play with all talent trees with decent playing without failing on anything.Especialy my warrior-paladin-dk(currently two dps spec)-druid has tank spec as a prio.
Attunements:
I Have done all attuments since tbc till now before pre nerfs.
Raiding
About raiding im able to most of days atm.About time im able to log at 19:00 for raids.during day i can be online too if i have nothing to do.till when i found a job.
Monday, 19:30 - 24:00
Tuesday, 19:30 - 24:00
Wednesday, 19:30 - 24:00
Thursday, 19:30 - 24:00
Friday and Saturday have a icc25 11/12hm pug.But if guild have a raid at this day for anything i can be rdy for it.
Gaming (optional) and World Of Warcraft history
i have been playing online games for long time.also i can say im a gamer too for all games.
About World of Warcraft i started to playing when tbc releaed.For explain my raiding explain i dont wanna make it complicated.wanna write it clear.
TBC : i have cleared everything before pre ners exept sunwell.We have reach Mu'ru before nerf and had some problems.After nerf we have done Ki'jaeden.
Nax : Cleared in two weeks.Guild named Testament (Magy server)
Ulduar : Cleared before pre nerfs expet yogg 0 keeper.Guild named Testament (Magy)
ToC : Cleared till Anub when its released.Guild named Testament (Magy)
Icecrown Citadel: (Sunstider)
10 man : Cleared everything before hellscream buff including hardmodes till LK
My group was in world first 50 when we done it.also we did try lk hc without buff and with %5buff.we did reach p3 on %5buff but wiped at there many times and then we ppl didnt want to try more for a while.Then we did focus on 25man hardmodes more.
25 man : Cleared everything with many hardmodes. 11/04/2010. (sindragosa and proff was left)
About Testament guild;i was main tank in there.Also one of Officer.After we having this progress we coudnt kill sindragosa and proff cause of raider problems.we tryed to fix it but some of old members quited from game and stopped playing.Then we decide to disband guild.i decide to not raid for 4-5 weeks and then i did apply to Catastrophe.they were turkish guild and after 2 year again i want to be with turkish ppl.they accepted me.i raided in there for 3 weeks and then i left.Cause i didnt like them at all.They are trying LK 25 hc but still some players dont even know how to avoid defile,shadow trap etc.And they are not getting replace cause of thoose fails,cause of irl friendship.thats just bullshit.i must say still turkish guilds can be in good position in this game cause of thoose acts.(saying this as a turkish player.)
Why im thinking like that,cause i have been raided even with ensidia in Magy.After we went Sunstrider still i have been played with world first 100 guilds in there.thats why i have a pug with 11/12 25man hc in sunstrider.Even my pug players more brained then this Catastrophe.
Why do you want to join Iron Edge?
Well i know Iron Edge since tbc times.u guys were server first that times.i even still remember that crazy rogue Dewlin.
Anyway icc is done after hellscream buff.that was realy huge nerf for one instance.even bigger then Sunwell nerf.For now im looking foward for Cataclyzm.I bellive u guys will go for good progress during Cataclyzm and i wanna be part of it.Also during summer wanna raid too for killing time or progressing for anything.i just cant stay in one of capital citys and look around.insted of this i would like to wipe or progress in somewhere.
What can I offer to Iron Edge?
I can offer u guys 4years of Tanking experianc,critisizm,theorycraft.Also i allways play in PTR server before something comes out.so i can have a pre experiance for everything before comes out.
i start playing with causal guild and then i become hardcore for last 2 years.ill continue Hardcore till end of the wow.
Last words?
I heared u guys looking for pala and made this apply for my pala,but if u guys want i can join with my warrior also.im not looking my chars as a alt or main its able too see from my all characters.they all geared as like main.Why pala? wanna continue my wow carrier with pala in Cataclyzm.
P.S : i would like to post World of Log from last raids but in catastrophe i didnt hear anything about logs,sorry about that.
Thanks for reading.
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Hmmm a guildie told me you were making an app and i was kinda excited as our pala tank just quit today, however we have similar problems to what you described of catastrophe in our raids... i really think your expectations are too high and you probably need a more hardcore guild, we have a few people who continually suck and cant learn from their mistakes, and if you only lasted 3 weeks with Catastrophe... well i dunno what they raid like but you wouldnt last a day with us IMO.
Although im no officer or anything of importance, so you can disregard this if you like, just thought it would be better to give you a heads up on what to expect. Plus were not looking for people who will join the guild, take loot etc, then bail to a stronger guild at the first opportunity they have, which is how i foresee your stay if you do join.
I apologise for the very negative feedback but its better to be honest from the start so you arent under any illusion.
PS. i hope nobody in the guild currently takes my comment as an insult. Iron edge rocks my socks AND my sandals, however i dont think were right for this guy... no matter how much we need a good paladin tank.
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Hello there friend of Blankshot i suppose as he posted your app.
Anyway to serious thoughts, your Paladins gear is far from good enough for heroic encounters which atm. both of IE's teams are progressing, You havnt got any of the easy obtainable tier 10 parts at all (atleast not using) - This isn's the best sign to be fair just from the general look. Also you havnt even crafted the 264 boots yet as you are still wearing a pair of 226 ones, and a bit of re-considering gems as for if you want to go full out stam as you have, get your red/blue gem in your head instead of your belt, as this gives you an extra 3 plus stam - general and simple logic if you ask me. As Destro stated aswell, from the looks of your experience in catastrophe, the IE A-raid is having similiar stuff happing aswell atm, so if you were looking for ensidia/paragon raiding this isnt the place imo, atleast not yet.
I'm only a b-raider but when i look at you, i cant see your gear match to us, and i think it certainly wouldnt then suit in the A-raid, as they probably wont be doing much more "gearing" people.
But good luck with the application though
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SALAM.
I don't think your gear is yet at a B Raid standard, and we have tanks a plenty but who knows? Good luck!
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Its an Araid App kili....
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You should perhaps leave those comments for page 2 or 3, Destro.
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Go go Daekadin!
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Oh I got confused cos' he was blankshots friend.
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Go go Daekadin!
Sounds like Kesh wants to tank.
TNX GOD
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Thanks for replys.
For that friend i dont mind about any reply here,feel free mate its just an opinion as a guild member on one apply :)
About gear i have T10 shoulder and also 150badges,just didnt buy new part yet.if any drops comes from pugs.About feet i would like to craft tanking feet but it havent defance raiting and if i use it my argent proc not gonna proc.thats why i didnt craft it.About gem,on my head have a yellow slot and cant put red in there.it will be changed with tier part cause it has red socket part.
(Normaly paladin gear should be full t10 exept leg.craft leg is the best cause of armor.about feet,it should be from dreamwalker.)
For raiding i dont mind wiping or having failers its happens in any of guild even in hardcore guilds sometimes ppl fail.noone can play this game with pure non fails.At the end everyone just human and can fail sometimes.in Catas it was just different.anyway dont wanna make catastrophe on more bad position.cause there was some good ppl too.
Oh btw there was a guy named Natureflow i guess if i remember true.i have raided with him in 10man hardmode run.he can write here his opinion too also about me if he likes :)
Thanks for reading.Have a nice day.
P.S Blankshot's friend Bigseksy.
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i can Craft the Prot Legs and feet for you in you have the matts.
Not really sure what you mean about Argent defender.. and boots?
but the stam/avoidance upgrade you'll get from the craft boots it too massive to not use, instead of waiting for a drop.
Make the boots .. use .. replace if/when u get the drop.
Again not sure what you mean waiting for drops for your tier pieces, the only pieces which can drop are legs and gloves, and legs you wont use, and gloves are cheep (60badges). So there is no excuse for not getting t10 upgrades. Frost badges are sOooo easy to acquire now.
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i ment like this.if one paladin tank havent 540 defance.argent proc not procing.its the cap for that talent.if i use boots my defance will be lower then 540.cause alrdy i havent any defance from leg also.
About getting tier piece i ment if i join any pug and if let say second boss tanking head drops i can buy tier chest insted of head.so i can fix my gear and stats much faster.but ofc it was while going with pugs.its not same thinking like while in any guild.if it was like that i buy all of pieces as faster as i can for fix stat but for pugs it wasnt problem u know,if u understand what i mean.
Thanks for reading.Blankshot's friend.
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Well even gemming for the defence cap is worth it if you upgrade from 245 to 251/264 loots. The stats alone on the pieces are enough.
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u got a point i agree with that about gemming defance gems and getting more str-sta and some avoidance but i was pugging all instances thats why i didnt bother with it.anyway its not that much problem,can craft it even now.
Thanks for reading.Blankshot's friend.
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To be honest. Waiting for a drop for an upgrade over something you can upgrade your self .. is the worst way to gear up.
Trust me .. if i could craft a Prot neck ... I WOULD!!!!
Iv been stuck with a neck from TOC 10 for about 13months now. (probably longer)
Dont rely on drops. Craft, buy with badges, do what you can to upgrade your gear. Just buy the Chest and start saving for the next piece.
I would upgrade all the bits you can post-haste! and if you need to, get a defence enchant on your head/chest/cloak/shoulders to get to def cap.
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think from this side.i have chest which is have 83defance.i buy tier chest and ill lost it.also if i craft boot i'll lost 50 defance from there too which is making 130defance at total.
130 defance = 6x 20defance raiting gem.its mean loosing 180stamina from gems.Also no argent proc which is over power in this game.i dont think it is worth to make it from this calculate
About waiting loot its not like that mate.u can see from mage that.have low gear but i have crafted feet on it.also on dk druid too.even on my paladin for dps have a leather crafted dps feet.
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Iv been stuck with a neck from TOC 10 for about 13months now. (probably longer)
I'll just wave my off-spec 277 tank neck in your face then :):)
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Iv been stuck with a neck from TOC 10 for about 13months now. (probably longer)
I'll just wave my off-spec 277 tank neck in your face then :):)
I have a retracted very floppy willy now .. its like a turtles head going into its shell... is it cold here .. are is that just shame?
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I have to echo what kili said really, your stats are worse than my 10-man geared alt protadin. LK HC and Halion hit quite hard :(
Upto Ino, though.
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Played 6 days.Which is making out seems like i have low experiance on paladin.İ have been playing over 4years as a tank since when i start to lvl my first char till now.i just stoped playing with my warrior and turned to paladin for Cataclyzm.
About tanking and getting hit from bosses.still i have no problem about getting hard hits or getting non stop hits.u cah check this from my stats.
Armor : 33175 (13 armor = 1 stamina)
Dodge : 27.44
Parry : 22:07
Block : 11.04
With currently gear and i remember when icc comes out i did kill all hardmodes in 10man before hellscream buff with full togc gear.including half of the 25man hardmodes.
Now there is %30buff.
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will you keep on getting the proffs and crafted items for your paladin in the future? you have quite alot of alts and few people can keep a high standard on their main when they always try go gear their awsome warlock or druid. Will your change to a prot paladin just stick or will you change back to some of your alts by the time we've geared you up?
(i think i quoted something hugman said to iamfish/bobcat/whatever the dk was named before he joined, atleast the Braiders know how that turned out(he plays a mage on stormreaver these days))
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Nah.i stick on my char which i play in any guild.im not that kinda guy gearing alt and leaving.if i was that kinda guy i would like to migrate my pala to Sunstrider for that 11/12 25man hm pugs and gear up mate.im just looking foward for cataclyzm and wanna be part of one decent guild.
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(13 armor = 1 stamina)
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if i was that kinda guy i would like to migrate my pala to Sunstrider for that 11/12 25man hm pugs and gear up mate.
Off topic, i call this bullshit, im pretty sure they dont just gather 25 people and go hc icc25. Its like everyone in IE leaving the guild but keep on raiding.
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Actually on some servers there's a large icc25 hc pug community. Dunemaul is too small to support it, though.
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Indeed servers like sunstrider and outlands have pugs and/or gdkp runs doing 11/12HC.
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Sunstrider at 8th in world servers.u can check from Realm forums.Luun's pug.
P.S : (13 armor = 1 stamina) yea if u gonna make 13+ armor or if u gonna get 1+ stamina it's same thing.its able to calculate between stamina and dmg reduce from armor.
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....if one paladin tank havent 540 defance.argent proc not procing.its the cap for that talent..... bla bla bla
Theres no such thing like Ardent Defender cap. If you actually read the talent, it clearly states "amount healed based on defense" but does not overheal after the defense cap. Basicly u'll still get the proc and heal amount difference will me marginal.
P.S : (13 armor = 1 stamina) yea if u gonna make 13+ armor or if u gonna get 1+ stamina it's same thing.its able to calculate between stamina and dmg reduce from armor.
Do spell hits mitigate by armor? Letme make it clear, NO. Thats why Stamina is the king now. You are talking about effective health here but making no point. Effective health is a concept which is calculated through your total stamina, mitigation and avoidance, thus a number representing your survival regarding melee hits. Even though 30% icc radiance, stamina still gives a wider frame of opportunuty to healers specially at progress fights than armor do.
Anyway we know Araid needs belf hotties like this (http://xoops.iron-edge.co.uk/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7) and not much choices at summer, unfortunately.
Good luck
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'Chichi' account is activated (I think that's you).
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Yea thanks for activate.That active mail was coming half and there was no link for activate it.
From Justa : ''Theres no such thing like Ardent Defender cap. If you actually read the talent, it clearly states "amount healed based on defense" but does not overheal after the defense cap. Basicly u'll still get the proc and heal amount difference will me marginal.''
About this.If u check well about tanking calculates u can see this my mate.13 Armor = 1 stamina allways.let me give u example.
U have 1000 hp -100 armor.Normaly mob hits u for 10dmg.
U made 1000 hp -113 armor.Now mob hits u 99.
U made 1001 hp -100 armor.Here mob hits u still 10dmg but u have 1hp extra from start.
Thats how its works.i hope u understand from this.
For Argent defender yea there is no such a thing argent defender cap for proc.But...If u want it to proc with 5k hp yea u can go with 500 or lower defance.If u hold it on 540 defance it will allways proc 15k+ u can feel free to try it.
P.S : its up to ur total hp also like writing on talent but still based on defance.
Please if someone wants to write,write it with proves like i did now,if im writing wrong.(No offence)
Thanks for reading.Chichi.
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Well its more of a language barrier than proving your claims, you said 13 armour = 1 stamina, which obviously had everyone baffled, what you meant was 13 armour = 1 less damage taken per hit.
Which in summary doesnt mean armour increases your hp, it just reduces damage done to you, which im pretty sure everybody in the guild is already aware of. Regardless if you had 40k armour, having a low HP pool still wont save you, there are other things to take into account, like magic damage.
EDIT: Nvm i still have no clue what you are trying to show in your last post, and why would you drop below 540 defense? obviously you will get crit and ultimately 1 hit.
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Check This (http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?56221-Armor-vs-Stam-Effective-Health)
and learn why 13 armor is not equal to 1 stamina regarding your stats.
And this (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31852/ardent-defender#comments)
I did some testing on this talent with my 70 tankadin, and this is what I found:
If you are at or below the normal maxed-out defense skill for your level (ie. you have no defense gear), the heal will not proc and will not trigger the two-minute cooldown debuff.
If you have more than the normal amount of defense, any attack that would have killed you will instead be absorbed. This spell will then heal you for the difference between your current health and the amount given by the following formula (ie. if you are at 100 HP before the killing blow, and the formula gives 300 HP, you will be healed for 200).
The formula is: (amount of "extra" defense skill)*(your max HP)*(0.3 / 140)
If your HP before the killing blow is above the amount given by the formula, the attack will be absorbed but you will not be healed.
The heal can crit for 1.5 times the normal value, but this crit is NOT affected by Touched by the Light.
The heal is not increased by Divinity or Improved Devotion Aura.
Ardent Defender will not prevent or mitigate damage from falling, drowning or Chaos Bolt.
so when you are , say at 535 defense ( u are 400 by being a 80 thus have 135 extra defense)and have 45K hp you would get;
135*45000*(0,3/140)=13017 Healing, if you had 540 defense;
140*45000*(0,3/140)=13500 Healing.
I would also add that its the first time I ever hear that napkin math is counted as a prove.
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man im happy to be a DK tank and not have to work that kinda shit out ! lol
fucking maths.. this is why i draw for a job lolol!
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I remember leveling my paladin as a tank, and i had no defense gear at all until 70, yet my ardent defender still procced and gave me the 2min debuff, it just didnt heal for fuck all.
Its the same for prot ret pvpers, there ardent defender procs but it barely heals them or even nothing at all depending on there gear choice.
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Yes + healing is like u writed there but u forgoting one thing?. 540 also crit cap.Thats why u cant go down from 540.if u go ok ur argent will proc lets say 8k and u got hit by target 18k crit.i dont think its worth to do like that.
And yea im still saying 13armor same like getting 1 hp.
Just check what i writed up there about calculate.
Btw i hope noone getting this offensive,cause i just want to be clear by my side and from other sides.Thats just friendly from my side.
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This discussion is weird.
No tank (besides druids) should go under 540 defense in raids.
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Yes + healing is like u writed there but u forgoting one thing?...
I did not talked about going under the cap nor advised it just corrected your false statement about the talent and the proc. Other way around would be ridiculous anyway.
maintankadin EH (http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?f=6&t=26831&rb_v=viewtopic)
As you can see 11.7 armor = 1 stamina is for the sake of the equation and assumes infinite mana pool, even though we dont have much encounters stressing healers on mana, roughly having the equal damage on average can not save you from say so two consecutive hits following a parry or random spiky damage but stamina will.
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My penis craves that hymenmonster and it craves it now.
Edit: I'd twenty fuck her three, if you know what I'm saying.
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I was expecting a pic. from you Nach? :)
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The vid is too good, no other pic can do better.
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nach comes through with another classic......
PS. Loving your avatar .. bowser is my fav character !!! XD
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Back the batman stuff.. i just got shown this ... ROFLOLCOPTORZZZ!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM&feature=player_embedded)
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Back the batman stuff.. i just got shown this ... ROFLOLCOPTORZZZ!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM&feature=player_embedded)
Very relevant and interresting. Continue please.
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yeh i dunno how to embed the videos in a post :)
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yeh i dunno how to embed the videos in a post :)
[youtube]Link in here[/youtube]
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yeh i dunno how to embed the videos in a post :)
Press the button that has a YT on it, as in Youtube :D
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So what's the last decision about my apply.
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Think hard and ask again.
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Apply withdrawn then.cause i did talk with Numen guild in Tallnivar and was waiting for reply.
Anyway,good luck for Future on progress.
Thanks for answers.Chichi.
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Think hard and ask again.
Instead of acting like a dick you could've waited for my response :|.
Thanks for making the application Chichi, you seem like a very active player! Unfortunately your gear is somewhat lacking for the content we currently raid. Good luck in your other guild.