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Title: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 22, 2011, 10:43:24 pm
so a friend of mine(yes i have friends) has recently gotten into m:tg (as in the proper card game not a pc version of it) and i was wondering if anyone had any experience in it

basicly i allways kinda liked it but i never had anyone to play against it so i was wondering if anyone could give me a good tip for a starter deck

anyway i did play a pc game that came out recently and i liked anything realy with the white color in it (i have no idea what its actualy called so i keep calling by the color hope that doesnt offend any of you that ar die hard m:tg fans) but i pretty much sucked at it

TL;DR halp please
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: kagir on October 22, 2011, 11:04:28 pm
wat
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 22, 2011, 11:20:44 pm
wat? wat?

i was wondering if people in IE allso played magic the gathering and if they could give some general tips or whatever
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: kagemoth on October 23, 2011, 12:32:37 am
I used to play a lot of MTG back when i was younger. The thing about this game is , it cost a lot of money to get the high end ultra cards you need to make a godly deck.

So first question! Do you have a deck already and or does your friend have a fuck ton of cards that allows you to fiddle and make decks with?
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Inphy on October 23, 2011, 02:04:12 am
I've recently sold all my cards. But it's a very expensive hobby, and takes a lot of time and money.

It is quite fun though. You should check out some of the game stores around the country. Mostly stores with "Games Workshop" games have some sort of department for playing and trading the cards.

There's "Spelkwartier" here in Arnhem (steenstraat), where they have a basement for players of different kind of games that gather and play. Also organizing small tournaments and drafts.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Douchebag on October 23, 2011, 02:16:37 am
Question.

Do your friends think you are angry?
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 23, 2011, 02:39:18 am
So first question! Do you have a deck already and or does your friend have a fuck ton of cards that allows you to fiddle and make decks with?
my friend has 2 starter decks... i think anyway
one bieng pure red and the other bieng a white/green hybrid i think
there are probably names for those decks but i have no idea

oh and im not thinking of making a deck that is like super awesome pro just something to do with my friend you see
There's "Spelkwartier" here in Arnhem (steenstraat), where they have a basement for players of different kind of games that gather and play. Also organizing small tournaments and drafts.
there is something like that where i live aswell... doubt they organize tournaments though

Question.

Do your friends think you are angry?
here is a better question

are you a furry? cause you sure sound like a parrot right about now
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: delling on October 23, 2011, 04:16:42 am
Magic! Finally, you moved on from Yugioh and Pokemon!

I still have lots of Magic cards in my cupboard at home :)

White = plains, btw (as in, the land that generates white mana).

Fun game. Don't get drawn into the whole collectable side of it, unless you have lots of time and money. Pre-made decks (or starting with a pre-made deck and working in your own stuff) is probably a better bet, if you just want to be a casual player.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: kagemoth on October 23, 2011, 05:50:20 am
I spent soooo much money on my White Black deck , fkn Ravnica!  I dunno what series is out now though. Whatever.

Ok , grish. If it's just sumthing to play every now and then with a friend , what i reccomend is buying a starter deck. These decks will have the very basic fundamental things you need in magic. This would be your Lands (This is the "mana" you use to cast spells) Creatures and various other spells like Enchantments , Intants and perhaps sum Artifacts. There will also be 1(or 2 , i cant remember) rare cards in the deck.

They normally come in colour combinations so just pick a deck with colours you think you would like.

Blue is mostly about sorcery and fucking annoying shit like counterspells
Black is the death of things. This will generally be stuff like zombies and evil shit
Red is destructive. Its more about dealing direct damage to players/creatures through spells
white is healing and goodness , you will normally find a lot of "Gives you X amount of health" stuff in white.
Green is about power , a lot of the green cards i knew would give +x/+x to your creatures and overpower your enemys.

Back when i was playing , i made an evil black and white deck that removed my opponents cards and withered away the strength of his creatures while gaining me more and more health. Was sooo much fun.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Yoica on October 23, 2011, 07:37:58 am
I actually still have all my cards and will  play a game or 2 with my wife each year. It's still good fun, but I used to play mtg a lot back in the mid/late 90's. I stopped playing after soon after 5th edition since the 2 expansion after that ruined the game for me by adding abilities like shadow. Apartantly it has gotten better again, but I never got back to playing. Partly due to going off to uni.

Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 23, 2011, 07:39:33 am
Magic! Finally, you moved on from Yugioh and Pokemon!
i never played those
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Karga on October 23, 2011, 07:41:15 am
http://www.elementsthegame.com/

reminds me this game.. well it's obvious elements is not the original one.
But i couldn't stop playing this game for 2-3 days.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Surim on October 23, 2011, 10:20:28 am
I played magic: the gathering quite a bit a few years ago, and also played it more recently with friends before I moved back to East London. Loads of fun. I still have a red haste deck from 5th and 6th edition cards. It is still a competitive deck against the newer cards. Loads of fun
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Sidestep on October 23, 2011, 02:42:01 pm
Used to go to tournaments with a group of friends, won a few but haven't played for years now, sold most of my cards for a few thousand ages ago. If I remembered how to play i'd give some advice :P
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 23, 2011, 02:56:53 pm
i am kinda suprised at how many of you played this game
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: delling on October 23, 2011, 03:00:08 pm
It's one of the geek standards, Grish.

Almost all of the 25+ year-olds in IE will have played Magic and Warhammer.

I actually heard about another friend getting back into Magic a couple of days ago. And I have some friends playing Warhammer again, after a break of 10 years.

I guess it's time for Phase 2, or something :)

Surim -- I had a red Sligh deck (ball lightning), but I eventually moved to a White Weenie deck. It had 8 'shadow' creatures from Tempest, so Yoica wouldn't like it... but it was an amazing deck. Savannah Lion! Serra Angel!
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Inphy on October 23, 2011, 03:50:17 pm
Serra Angel, oh how I love thee Serra Angel.

I have 3 of them framed, one of the early ones. I'm actually thinking of buying 1 from Alpha or Beta. It's just that awesome!
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Yoica on October 23, 2011, 05:18:06 pm
Serra Angel was so sick!

Sengir Vampires <3
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Gaeios(Graxlos) on October 23, 2011, 05:39:00 pm
I feel so unnerdy now :D
Only the nerds played with magic cards at my school
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Sparrowhawk on October 23, 2011, 06:07:35 pm
I still actively play mtg. DO NOT buy boosters. Don't do it! Construct your deck with some online tools like http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/ and buy the cards invidually. Also starter decks are like really bad. If you want to buy preconstructed deck, buy event decks. They are slightly more expensive, but are actually semi good.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Grishnag on October 23, 2011, 07:23:46 pm
im guessing event decks have some sort of special name?
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Sparrowhawk on October 23, 2011, 07:39:06 pm
Yeah. They are called "event deck" instead of "intro deck"..

Heres few examples

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/766
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/714
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/648
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/817
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Sidestep on October 23, 2011, 08:07:51 pm
It's one of the geek standards, Grish.

Almost all of the 25+ year-olds in IE will have played Magic and Warhammer.

True story, guilty of both. Got the new edition rulebook for warhammer and some Beastmen a few months back. Was going to start an army but only painted 2 units before stopping.  :P
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: kagemoth on October 23, 2011, 08:29:25 pm
So many new abilities :S
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Sparrowhawk on October 24, 2011, 07:01:16 pm
Building your first deck (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/academy/3)
Five tips for better deck building (http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/bb62)
Few very good blog posts (by wizards) for building decks. You might want to read them if you are to build your own deck. most important tip: You generally dont want to run less than 24 lands.

If you play multicolored deck with your friends, you might want to concider proxying multicolored lands. Running multicolor decks without proper land base is very annoying. Those lands generally cost 2-5e a piece. So its good idea to proxy those unless you want to pay 3e a piece for lands which you need 4-8 in a deck. So just take a plain land and write the proxy lands name on it Like in this case (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=209408) write copperline gorge on the land.

Note that you obviously cant use proxies if you ever plan to play in tournaments, but proxying lands makes the game that much more pleasant to play with friends. But please dont proxy other cards except lands :P it kinda ruins the game and the whole collecting side of it. Also make sure its ok with your friends to do this.
Title: Re: Magic: The Gathering
Post by: Inphy on October 24, 2011, 07:03:07 pm
So many new abilities :S

That's the reason I never got back into it to be honest. So many new decks and cards. I used to know almost all the different series and their abilites. Now I'm just mindblown ;o