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Iron Edge => Recruitment => Friends and Family Recruitment => Topic started by: Figl on October 05, 2011, 07:05:00 pm
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Hello we are real life friends of Spuzi , Pluug , Jaca , Pilc ,Zenath and Bane .
We would like to join Iron Edge so we can play with them and have some fun .
Personal info :
All 3 of us are from Belgrade , my name is Darko my ingame nick is Figl ( some of your older members probably remember me ) , other 2 mates for who i'm making this apply also are Marko (wow nick Joxon ) and Milos ( ingame Mikaso ) .
Wow info :
I have a warlock : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/Figl/advanced and a paladin i just leveled here : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/Fadjile/advanced
Marko ( Joxon ) has a priest he is still leveling so no need for armory link .
Milos ( Mikaso ) he has a rogue here : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/Mikaso/advanced
Between us we have a lot of raiding and pvp experience , and to list it all would be a wall of text .
That would be it , for more questions contact us ingame or on forum ofc .
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OHHHHHOOO finally THIS APP!
Have my vote!
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Give!
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Did you make Jaca write this application for you? :P
Anyway, I heard about you (good things!), too bad its only F&F apply.
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In before Delling: This app is pretty terrible. At least try a bit ;( Doesn't need to be war and peace, but it basically tells us nothing about any of you, which is especially important for f&f apps.
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Jaca and the others may know about you very well. But i believe you should also introduce yourself to the whole community with more details..
good luck
BTw, Jaca you noob ! You always go berserk or mad when u see such an application. But when it's your own relative/friend you are so tolerant. !!! BAD BOY!
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I don't get this...
Who wrote the app?
Is this Figl, the guy who took Cwave's trinket from Illidan and migrated?
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Lol this is a very short app even for one person and its an app for three people :P
Is it the old Figl and Markoman? Was Milos in the guild before too?
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I don't get this...
Who wrote the app?
Is this Figl, the guy who took Cwave's trinket from Illidan and migrated?
No , this is Figl who came here to play with you and few other (serbs) in the guild , and toward whom you where an a****** so i quited .
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I don't get this...
Who wrote the app?
Is this Figl, the guy who took Cwave's trinket from Illidan and migrated?
No , this is Figl who came here to play with you and few other (serbs) in the guild , and toward whom you where an a****** so i quited .
This should definitely get you in :)
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I don't recall being an ass to you... what did I do? I thought you left to join a more-hardcore guild.
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I don't get this...
Who wrote the app?
Is this Figl, the guy who took Cwave's trinket from Illidan and migrated?
No , this is Figl who came here to play with you and few other (serbs) in the guild , and toward whom you where an a****** so i quited .
yup this sounds like a good way to get someones vote XD
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I don't recall being an ass to you... what did I do? I thought you left to join a more-hardcore guild.
Nop i quited the game , i told you when i was joining that i wanted to play in a friendly guild with m8's .
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http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=2723.msg26572#msg26572
This is his goodbye post where he started by leaving for nihilum, but decided to quit the game instead.
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And then you sold your account (two times?), bounce around some more, and now you're back?
When was I an ass to you?
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Never heard of you, but to be honest I wouldn't let you into the guild from what I can see.
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Figl was nice, no idea what beef he's got with dell, though :P
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Aye, I liked Figl too, so I'm curious myself :P
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At first glance im feeling "no way, don't get this dude in", then I'm getting some perspective and thinking that he actually has solid sponsors who is old members of the guild, they seem to work with the community and this dude shows basically the same type of personalty so why wouldnt he work Not that I'm claiming to know any if you very well :)
More effort in to the application should be required.
You guys planing in raiding in the future?
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can i please ask why didn't your friends make separate applies btw? i find it quite lazy on their behalf that you did it. and the lack of info also isn't impressive >.<
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OK every story have 2 sides, at that point when Figl was in IE i migrated on other server, but i was still informed what was happening. Cwave blowed his dkp on that tanking shield(for pimping) than he take ring(DKP>all). And yea Figl killed Ilidan like 20 times before he joined IE and help you a lot with progress/tactic and all.
But nvm that its all in the past.
Basically for F&F rank its required to have really good apply or strong sponsors.
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ahh oki ty pluug, he has got good sponsors :)but wouldn't a stronger apply esp for the others also help in that matter for people who haven't met him is probably more to my point
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Just let us know what the issue is with dell, and he's basicly golden :P
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Basically for F&F rank its required to have really good apply or strong sponsors.
Strong sponsors still needs a more than 3 line apply :/
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Pr. Player.
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Soooo nice words! WELCOME BACK FIGL!!!
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Please, shut up Spuzi.
Still waiting for lots more information (and a better application).
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Please, shut up Spuzi.
Still waiting for lots more information (and a better application).
Hahaha
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Never really played with Figl back in TBC, but I do remember some fuzz about his leave/quit post. But that was years ago, and I'm sure he gave more than he took at the time. Not my domain however, and other people who weren't involved in that, should probably not judge Figl by this.
Figl seems like a nice guy, and from what I've heard, a bad ass player. Inviting him and his friends as F&F sounds great to me, however, the application is shit - but that has been pointed out already.
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Well people forgave Gidra, so I guess he should be forgiven as well.
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Well people forgave Gidra, so I guess he should be forgiven as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this comparison is way out of proportion, and irrelevant.
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Well skymonkey, correct me if wrong, but didn't you like quit few times, migrated to raid on another server and then came back? And you are here now, in guild, raiding :)
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I dont think there are any issues with this besides the fact that its a crappy application.
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My point was, as far as I understand, people are mad with Filg because he sold his character/acted like a dick and quit the guild in a unfit manner.
But if people are okay with him and his friends rejoining as socials, then I don't see any problem either. Personally I don't have any beef with him (or anyone else in the guild for that matter), I was just curious to if there was a big deal with Filg's background in Iron Edge.
Personally I love to have more faces in Iron Edge to play with during off raid hours and stuff!
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Well skymonkey, correct me if wrong, but didn't you like quit few times, migrated to raid on another server and then came back? And you are here now, in guild, raiding :)
But did I ever call people out? I told people that I would be taking a break from raiding with the guild. I have never quit the guild in times where I was needed.
When I migrated to Outland and fooled around abit for a while (which was weeks after I initially had left the a-raid), didn't I write a 3 page application to get back into the guild?
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Marko ( Joxon ) has a priest he is still leveling so no need for armory link .
Is this Markomanka ?
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Marko ( Joxon ) has a priest he is still leveling so no need for armory link .
Is this Markomanka ?
No.
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Marko ( Joxon ) has a priest he is still leveling so no need for armory link .
Is this Markomanka ?
No.
ok :(
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I go to bed... wake up... and still no more info!
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maybe they argue with each other about whoms info to put, since it's only one application form !
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Maybe you should stop thinking Karga?
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ok then ... it's your turn to start !
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Want more info read this i guess:
Figl previous apply.
http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=2246.msg20203#msg20203
Mikaso previous apply, he was accepted and he had problems with transferring
http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=4975.msg67948;topicseen#msg67948
And yea Joxon was always playing on other server in few top guilds.
So read about this Delling there is plenty of information's.
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The question is, Pluug, is why are you doing posting that and not him? Why can't he even just copy+paste some of it or whatever to at least give the impression of effort?
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Pluug why is it that serbians need special treatment when it comes to applying?
When other f&f players apply they write proper applications. Even if they were in the guild before...
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You cant be serious Pluug? How would it be OK for theese players to get im based on that you link their old applications? Would that be OK for any player or just for theese special ones?
Let them respond for them self if they really want in, its not just about the information its also about putting and effort in to comming back. The effort a player is willing to put in to an application show something about how much joining means to them and how much effort they will put in the guild once they joined.
Edit:
Effort is even more important for thoose who ones left to be honest
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Pluug why is it that serbians need special treatment when it comes to applying?
no one gave me special treatment ! :(
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Are you Kael'Thas?
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Ooh, I didn't think that you would make a post like that, Pluug. I thought that odd, elitist attitude amongst the officers was limited to Spuzi...
How can Figl's application be more important than Karga's input, too? Very odd.
Do you really expect us to accept this app, Pluug?
Please remember that Figl doesn't have some kind of long history with IE. He only raided with us for a short time, and he was never deeply invested in the community -- just with Serbs on TS.
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TTaM to answer your question i know him and i have an option on my account to post stuff here so combine 1 and 2 and voila.
Skinke don't talk to me about guild effort please!
Graxlos: Special treatment always exists in some cases, only in Communism everyone is equal(in theory atelast)
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It's not about why are you doing it. That's obvious. It's why he isn't.
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It blows my mind that Figl still hasn't commented about how I was an ass to him. It's almost like Pluug told him to shut up, and to let him handle the rest...
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Pluug, Im not talking about your effort, I even posted in a previous post that your effort and long history in the guild is a + when it comes to him joining.
Im refering to Figls effort in rejoining, and that effort is practicly 0
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Delling this isn't elitist post or anything, I was posting it since i called them to this server to migrate and i have some other plans with them in near future(to gear them up and get them into raid).
They all payed transfer here and leveled new characters to 85 lvl in 2 days to be able to play with us(i call that effort Skinke - maybe he didn't post enough stuff on forum but still).
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Yes, I know you want the A-raid to survive, and I know that's why they're here -- but you can't give them this kind of special treatment. Are they going to talk for themselves in the raid? Or are they going to get Officer Pluug and Spuzi to do everything for them?
You KNOW the 'Serb faction' can be terrifying. You know that Figl is an important character for the Serbs.
I don't like that Figl thinks he's important/special enough to make a tiny app and still get into the guild.
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This underhanded stuff is just stupid.
We get a 5 line application from 3 people asking for F&F membership of the guild, even though these people are actively recruited to join your raiding team.
Make three applications and write the truth, that they are here to raid....
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Suspected this was a atempt to fast track in to the raid group, thats why I asked in the beginning if they where planing on raiding in the future.
And if they put an effort in like you describe it Pluug why not let them take 1min and actually explain that. I mean, 5min more spent on each application with such strong sponsors would have been a guranteed trial.
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Also the analogy to communism is wrong.
The analogy is called nepotism which is a common problem in many former communist countries, where you get a high job in the government and you do favours for your family and giving them jobs instead of following the normal legal hiring proces.
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How have I only now just seen this. ???
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What is this even? I think it's pretty offensive tbh.
3 guys who applied to the guild as F&F and has pretty strong sponseres. Okey, cool.
But it's like 5 lines for 3 peoples? And you as officer somehow thinks this is enough?
Sure leveling a new char to 85 is effort, but where was this said? And I thought this was a F&F apply, not an apply for a raid?
I applied as F&F, but today I'm a raider in the B-raid, but I didn't get there cos I had strong sponsers :/
And I remember I sure didn't write 5 lines about myself >.<
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This underhanded stuff is just stupid.
We get a 5 line application from 3 people asking for F&F membership of the guild, even though these people are actively recruited to join your raiding team.
Make three applications and write the truth, that they are here to raid....
They made friend apply since they are not ready to raid yet(they need gearing up).
What kind of truth you are talking about?
I don't like that Figl thinks he's important/special enough to make a tiny app and still get into the guild.
I'm pretty sure he is not thinking like that othervise he wouldn't even come to play here. He was told by some ppl just to write few words.
Anyway this isn't community apply this is F&F apply, where does it says that F&F need to socialise and doing something special, they are here to play with their friends.
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I am more interested in Figl's thoughts about IE, about me, why he left, why he returned, and all those kinds of things. Those are the kinds of things that the guild should know about, too -- not just me!
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Im intrested in why Figl aint commenting on this himself, we are judging him on stuff others say for him, thats not fair to either him or the guild.
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Im interested in why B-raiders spaming in F&F of A-raid
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Maybe because F+F is to the guild and not to any raid?
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Jesus, if one more guildie from ANY raid comments on an F&F with 'why are you commenting here?' I am just going to deny the app.
YOU ARE ALL PART OF IE.
I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO DECIDES ON F&F APPLICATIONS.
_Everyone_ is welcome to comment on _every_ IE forum post. If I don't like your comments, I will remove you from the group. If you are part of this group, your opinion is as valid as everyone else's. In that sense, it is a democracy.
I agree that A-raiders are more INTERESTED in A-raider apps, but a B-raider's opinion might still be important. And vice-versa! An A-raider can comment on a B-raider app! All of these applicants are JOINING THE SAME GUILD, so we all have a VESTED INTEREST to make sure that the people who are joining are suited to IE.
Again, if one more person says 'omg why are you commenting here?' I will deny the app and ban the person from the forum.
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Safire ! u got in because u can draw ! just to give an impression that IE appreciates art..
HAHAH ! ok beside jokes. Can i start to think again Pluug ?
Long story short: There is notthing wrong with doing a proper application.
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That's how you got in, Karga... and yes, the guild leader appreciates art :)
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I had i different reason in my mind why she got in. But ok, drawing is nice. :)
Pretty sure guild leader appreciates my reason too.
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Long time since I saw some art
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;D
Cojche youuu...
mad
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Safire ! u got in because u can draw ! just to give an impression that IE appreciates art..
That's how you got in, Karga... and yes, the guild leader appreciates art :)
I'm happy you appreciate my art ;)
I had i different reason in my mind why she got in. But ok, drawing is nice. :)
Pretty sure guild leader appreciates my reason too.
You just had to go there, didn't you :P
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So i've only read 2 pages of this and some chatter on IRC.
I appreciate that its 'not helpful blahblah'
But who cares? It says more about the guild that so many peeps are flaming and shit stirring in this thread over a player that i've known since vanilla (doubt he remembers me though) who made a short app cos he's been on ts and in contact with the serbs for ages.
I've made like 5 apps to this guild over the years, even tho i've never been out of contact with it for the entire 6 years i've been a member, twice i've had to rewrite them. Its all a bit silly tbh... who cares? really?
Inb4 shitstorm.
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You are missing the point sintrael. Point is that same rules (beeing silly or not) should apply to everyone. Other point is double standards where this is ok just cause it's a friend. Officers should stick b he rules
But since you are going there I defenelty think making a proper application should be a criteria of joining us
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Fun read. Figl made a proper app now btw :P