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Iron Edge => Recruitment => Raider Recruitment => Topic started by: hotix on August 26, 2007, 01:57:16 pm

Title: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: hotix on August 26, 2007, 01:57:16 pm
Hello Iron Edge.

Personal Information:

I am 24 years, I'm from Serbia and my name is Miroslav. I work in building company as pc operator. Becide game and job I usually spend time with my gf and friends.

Character Information:


Character:
Hotix

Class: Druid

Talents: 1/0/61 http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Hotix

Gear: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Hotix

Playtime: 126 days, 12 hours, 48 minutes and 53 seconds :P

Professions: Mining 375/Herb 390 (Chaina farmer, mining for golds, herb for pots)

Attunements:

Karazhan: Yes

Hyjal: I need only vial from kael to complete pre quest

Black Temple: I need to talk with npc behind Fathom-Lord Karathress, to kill Al'ar and Rage Winterchill

Raiding:
   
Mondays:  16:00-24:00
Tuesdays: 16:00-24:00
Wednesdays: 16:00-24:00
Thursdays: 16:00-24:00
Fridays: 16:00-24:00
Saturday: 16:00-24:00
Sundays: 08:00-24:00

I'm very active player, in every guild where I was 90% active on raids and in TBC I reach Kael with CB.

Gaming (optional) and World Of Warcraft history:

First class with I start to play with and many from Iron Edge remember me as mage. With him I finish full MC and BWL but realm needed more druids I rerol druid and with him also cleared MC, BWL, Onyxia, ZG, AQ20, AQ40 (never been on Vicidus) and Naxx (Spider wing - cleared), (Deathknight - instructor),  (Abomination - Patchwerk, Grobbulus) and (Necro wing - Noth and Heigan)
Playin career I started in Gnome Grinders, then I go in Cold Blooded, then I get invite for Bloodrage where I spent 4 months with them on Tarren Mill realm, then after falling appart I get back in Cold Blooded, cleared with them all up to Patchwerk and then guild fall apart coz we didn't got good healers, than after that I got invite to join in your guild wich I accepted, with you I killed Patchwerk, Grobbulus and Heigan, then we stop raiding coz we was waiting TBC.
After TBC releace I lvled druid fasto to 70lvl so I can raid with you but in meanwhile I got problem, I had death in family and I had to stop playing wow and find some job so I can live normal and fix my rl. After brake wich last 3 month I get back to game and I saw that I'm not in the guild anymore ofc with reason coz you were thinking that I won't be back. I get invite for Cold Blood to rejoin wich I accept and with them I spend time untill now when there is time that Cold Blood fall apart coz we don't have ppl for raid.

Why do you want to join Iron Edge?

I never like to change guilds, every time when I left some guild it was reason coz that guild fall apart, every time when I have to leave some guild its not easy for me.
I want to join Iron Edge coz I have allot of friends, and I know many old players and with many of you I played when I played mage as main. I want to join coz we play same game, you play for progres same as me and coz on end you are only guild wich survived on Dunemaul and I want to be in that kind of guild.

What can I offer to Iron Edge?

I think that I have inaff xp with druid and that I can help you allot. As I say, I played with your members for long time and If I didn't had that problem in family I will still be with you and stay active like I was active in other guilds. Also I have raid with you many times so I think that It won't be hard for me to fit in. Also many of you know that I'm always prepared for every raid and that there is no flower in wow that I didn't picked to make pots for raid.

Last words

I hope I will beat all with you. If you invite me I just wanted to say that I'm on vacation atm (my first vacation this year) and that I won't be there from 30/08/2007 up to 05/09/2007. I go to relax from job and when I get back I will be hard core again!
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 26, 2007, 02:04:31 pm
I have just a few concerns after the attitude and issues that you brought to IE with Krca. That was a very dark time for me, and made me wonder if I want any more Serbs in the guild :)

I'll wait and see what other people say here though.

It's a good application though, by the way!
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: forker on August 26, 2007, 02:05:36 pm
First off great application I must say.

A resto druid, this has been discussed in the past. Some say:

YEEEEEEEEEEEESS GIEEFFF

some say:
Not so much.

It's a grim world.

Good luck anyhow. :)

Mages would be happy as it seems like a Druid can decurse better then a Mage.  ::)
My honest opinion on Druids is still that I don't think they would fit in with all the snipers in IE, but I think that's just me.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: cobratix on August 26, 2007, 02:18:44 pm
ZOMG HOTIX(botinja:)
MIKICEEEEEEEEE GDE JE MACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

as brother said GIEF  RESTO DRUID :D

he is great and imba player like many ppl know if u played with him already ...always hard core.

he have my vote <3

nice apply and GL :)

Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Smorisha on August 26, 2007, 02:19:15 pm
We have discussed about need of a resto in our raids and generally number of dr00ds in raids. I think we should give it a try, since HoTs from them are just mental on top of decursing, innerivate and combat res.

Hotix is very good player, been a PVE freak ever since MC time. Only thing that bothers me is that he can be emo sometimes, even more then me ::)

I vote for a trial since he knows how to play healing druid aswell as feral.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 26, 2007, 02:25:37 pm
Are we not going to get any comments about how 'most of the Serbs want to leave IE', back when Krca and Hotix were here?

Or did we forget all about that, because he's a pretty tree? :P
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Gidra on August 26, 2007, 02:31:32 pm
Give Bananaman, kktnxbye... \o/  I forgot how it looks to have resto drood in raids. And I am sry I cant say anything about his emo phase in IE earlier coz I wasnt at that time on Dunemaul, so dont know what happened back then. :(

Thumbs up, for trial and if it is ok in our raid setups why not. :)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Lobby on August 26, 2007, 03:21:27 pm
We have discussed about need of a resto in our raids and generally number of dr00ds in raids. I think we should give it a try, since HoTs from them are just mental on top of decursing, innerivate and combat res.

Hotix is very good player, been a PVE freak ever since MC time. Only thing that bothers me is that he can be emo sometimes, even more then me ::)

I vote for a trial since he knows how to play healing druid aswell as feral.

... I dont believe you smor... more emo then you?
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: hotix on August 26, 2007, 03:47:28 pm
Thank you all on your nice words.

Delling,
Krca just didn't fit in and that was it.

I give vote for Krca to get in guild coz even today I think, we know eachother 10 years, that he
is big hard core player and very good with everyone and he want to help, I'm not only one in guild
with who he have to fit in, so I didn't know if he will fit in with all of you or not.
About migration, he migrated and I didn't and I told you that I won't migrate. And now when if I
may say so Cold Blooded is falling apart, I got offers for migrations but I refused them coz I want
to raid with ppl with who I lvled with and farmed but on first place ppl with I raided together.

I think that Its not hard for me to fit in with you and I think that with my xp I can help you.

If you need resto druid I'm always there rdy for raid and for guild progress.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Starbrow on August 26, 2007, 06:22:47 pm
I think we should be able to fit a resto into our raids, if delling just allows for it and stops bringing six priests every raid. As far as I'm aware, loltrees are superb tank healers, but quite a lot worse at sniping (aka topping up jobs). But hey, a HoT that ticks for 400+ every second, and just needs renewing every 7, for 150ish mana is pretty nice.

About the emo stuff, I can't say I remember much of it, but in fact your name seems to ring a positive bell in my head. I support giving you the benefit of the doubt, especially since we can always kick you if you go on an emo anti-IE streak (not that I expect you to...)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Daekesh on August 26, 2007, 07:10:29 pm
Wtb resto druid.  Wtb somebody that is part of the guild too, though, not just the serbian mafia part of it...
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Noble on August 26, 2007, 09:22:29 pm
Inv more emo serbs.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: cobratix on August 26, 2007, 09:57:14 pm
Inv more emo serbs.
idd
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Shapa on August 27, 2007, 01:48:49 am
Hey, nab
Nice application.
I am sure that Dell is going to decide do we need a druid in raids but if we do i cant think of any1 better than Hotix, hes one of the most hc ppl that i know playing their class realy good.
Gl with application, i hope that we will see each other in same raid grp soon.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Cwave on August 27, 2007, 02:20:34 am
Less bloody serbs plx
Cant you reroll dutch?

On a serious note, i would like to get a even better statement from you on the Krca emo crap i can remember. Emoblackmail is something that sucks and with so many serbs active in the guild, im in no mood for a intrigant waiting to poison our water! :D

On an even MORE serious note, delling: This could be our answer to all the leather healing crap you keep pulling from bosses. We could call him..."The Leather Bucket"

Now im getting dead serious... how do you handle verbal abuse and namecalling, Leather Bucket?
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 27, 2007, 02:29:15 am
Ya have to remember that whatever happened back then, and whatever the cause (you guys hating Crazylock or something) - nothing's changed in that regard.

So did you grow up? Or did Krca actually start it and you joined in?

With regard to a tree in raids, I am sure you would fill that slot perfectly. I'm still not utterly convinced on having a tree in raids though... and if that tree is going to try and destroy my guild behind my back, that's not a good thing :)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Legolew on August 27, 2007, 08:16:36 am
Hey Hotix

Sorry i didnt reply or /w you back last night.

anyway..

At the moment resto druids are something we dont use in our raids atm , we did used to have Dookie but as he quit game we just never found anyone that could fill his boots.

Resto druids , like Brother said its something thats been talked about recently , some say Yay gib , some say no , i actually would love to see a dancing tree back in raids.

Think perhaps you may be one of the few druids on server that can bring Loltree faith back into our raids, its going to be hard and you will need patience , like i said atm we dont use resto's so you may not get in every raid to start but when you do it will be your chance to grab hold of it with both hands and prove resto's are an essential part of raiding grps.

think Hyjal fights could really be made for out hots tbh and p5 on K.T.

your gear , your experience is no problem and we talk online sometimes so i kinda know you anyway.

Now the whole Serb thing with Dell worrys me , i cant have a druid thats at logger heads with our RL, this is something i want sorted out, perhaps take it away from public forum and into /w today and get it sorted thats all i ask off you for now ^^/

So yeah /w me online tonight or this afternoon when i get home from work and we'll start a 2 week trial( usual shizzle ) , but you gota realise that YOU  have got to rise to the challenge of persuading our officers and in particular Delling that a resto druid is an essential part of a raiding structure, i know you can do that with ease.

without a doubt one of the best healing druids around and i'd be proud to share our Hyjal / BT journey with you.

Leg

at last i wont need to spend all my kp on leather healing stuff so it can gather dust in the bank :P

Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 27, 2007, 02:04:21 pm
My main concern is finding a spot in raids for Hotix.

I really doubt that some healers will want to sit out for a triallist... even more so in Hyjal or BT.

This is why I wanted Dookie, because he was already part of the raiding group.

I'm not sure I can see you guys wanting Ino or Lobsteer to sit out for Hotix, or Cwave, Spuzi, or Otori -- because that's what's going to happen, if you want a dancing tree in raids.

Dookie's healing was great, but he was still the lowest effective healer in raids. I think the utility will help on some fights, but I still don't know if I'd disrupt the healers in IE for another instant heal.

Anyway, assuming Lego's trialling you, hopefully we'll find a space in a raid for you in the next 2 weeks, and see if you're worth upsetting the other raiders for :)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Kawe / Dave on August 27, 2007, 03:15:28 pm
While I'm rather keen on having a good tree in the guild, I'm really not keen on the prospect of someone who would possibly kick up large amounts of drama of something really stupid like an AFK player not responding turning into a "I'm leaving and taking all my buddies with me!" fiasco or anything similar. I could barely even believe that when I heard the story, it's so goddamnn ridiculous.


If that's all behind you though, gl and let's be postitive :)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Forsakenmage on August 27, 2007, 06:30:31 pm
I realy cant see how one person can infuance others to leave the guild if they don't whant to leave in the first place, as to Hot hating Crazy well i do hate him too...
He is always geting me killed cos of dot'ing my spam sheeps basstard  :P (j/k)

Dont let some things from the past stop you in geting good players if you whant to be the best you must play with the best even meaning replasing some of the old ppl
( dosent mater if its me or you or someone else best ppl in raids nobs out  :P )
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 27, 2007, 06:36:00 pm
I don't want to be the best...

Guild stability is faaaaaaar more important than recruiting a good druid.

Far, far more important.

Did I mention that guild stability was more important than being the best?
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Forsakenmage on August 27, 2007, 06:59:47 pm
Ye you are right anyway wont hurt to try him out.
Guld stability is ok now and dont think 10 old Hotix's will change that
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Ino on August 27, 2007, 07:35:18 pm
Can't comment much on Hotix since I don't know him, what I can tell is that resto druids can be quite handy for upcoming encounters in Hyjal/BT. Lifebloom is imba!
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 27, 2007, 07:39:47 pm
I think 3 renews are probably more imba :)

The decursing and battle res sounds nice though.

And +healing received in the MT group might be nice as well.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Cwave on August 27, 2007, 07:54:31 pm
I think 3 renews are probably more imba :)

The decursing and battle res sounds nice though.

And +healing received in the MT group might be nice as well.

+healing in the mage/shadowpriest grp ;)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Starbrow on August 27, 2007, 07:56:08 pm
To be quite fair, I think that we can find the spots if we really wish to, since it is primarily a matter of delling deciding if we want to have six or seven healers per raid...

As for the effectiveness of a resto, I think we might've been using Dookie wrongly before (topping up) instead of MT healing. As all you snipers are aware, HoTs are utterly useless for topping up that 1-2k HP loss, since some flashing paladin/priest will come sweeping in miles before the HoT finishes it's job.

From my very limited resto experience during the pre-KT trash, just keeping all HoTs on one tank or lifebloom on two is GREAT HP/S, even as feral. But lets just see what Hotix himself can bring instead of wabbling about on the theoretical use of him :P

Oh, and how you can compare 3 renews to lifebloom kindda lost me?
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 27, 2007, 07:59:55 pm
People say that Lifebloom's utterly awesome, but 3 renews on a target is (in theory) better... ticks for more, and doesn't need recasting as often.

This is in theory of course, because Lifebloom ticks every 1 second, right? So you'd have to have 3 'staggered' renews.

I was just thinking out loud, basically :)
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Starbrow on August 27, 2007, 08:55:10 pm
Ahh, you're comparing three lifeblooms to three renews? Then I see your point, but then the resto should also be throwing Rejuvenation + Regrowth on the MT (if it's only him he's healing). And yes, it works great for topping up smaller hits, since it is a tick per second.
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Ahkailon on August 27, 2007, 09:39:27 pm
Lifebloom: Stacks in three stacks per druid. So if you have two druids stacking it, you will have 6 Lifeblooms on the target.
According to Hotix 3 stacks of Lifebloom (with about 1600 +healing) will tick for about 600 per second. That is 600hps, whilst the priests Renew does 750 every 3 seconds (with Dells 2k +healing if I understood correctly) which is 250hps (is this correct? Doesn't sound that much).
Now, a loltree can in fact keep a stack of 3 Lifeblooms on up to 3 tanks at the time and still have time to cast another spell (Ninnervate, Rejuvenation). So in a fight where there is used multiple tanks a loltree can dash out about 1800hps (without counting rejuvenations etc).

I did a little test and it showed that even with my gear I would be able to keep Lifebloom up on one target for about 30 minutes. Or 10 minutes on 3 different tanks (although I do not account for that short time I spend outside the five second rule when I am only casting it on one person).
My gear would be MC and BWL epics and 7610 mana unbuffed, 346 spir, and 75 Mp5 :P.

Also, there is a minor bug with Lifebloom(unless they removed it) which is hardly a bug at all, but I can't think of a better word for it. If you activate a +healing trinket to give you a buff of +healing and then start stacking Lifebloom you can practically keep that buff up forever. How long the +healing effect lasts depends on how long you are able to keep that first Lifebloom from expiring. I can for instance buff my Lifebloom from 451 to 514 just by activating my [wowitem]Oshu'gun Relic[/wowitem]. And that +healing effect won't go away until I let the Lifebloom expire. (To clarify: You won't keep the buff, it will just be affecting your Lifebloom)

Yes, I am bored. Yes, you should take this with a large pinch of salt, because to be quite frank, I am rather unsure about most of it.
Probably forgotten something as well.



Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Rza on August 27, 2007, 10:35:02 pm
Lifebloom: Stacks in three stacks per druid. So if you have two druids stacking it, you will have 6 Lifeblooms on the target.
According to Hotix 3 stacks of Lifebloom (with about 1600 +healing) will tick for about 600 per second. That is 600hps, whilst the priests Renew does 750 every 3 seconds (with Dells 2k +healing if I understood correctly) which is 250hps (is this correct? Doesn't sound that much).
Now, a loltree can in fact keep a stack of 3 Lifeblooms on up to 3 tanks at the time and still have time to cast another spell (Ninnervate, Rejuvenation). So in a fight where there is used multiple tanks a loltree can dash out about 1800hps (without counting rejuvenations etc).

I did a little test and it showed that even with my gear I would be able to keep Lifebloom up on one target for about 30 minutes. Or 10 minutes on 3 different tanks (although I do not account for that short time I spend outside the five second rule when I am only casting it on one person).
My gear would be MC and BWL epics and 7610 mana unbuffed, 346 spir, and 75 Mp5 :P.

Also, there is a minor bug with Lifebloom(unless they removed it) which is hardly a bug at all, but I can't think of a better word for it. If you activate a +healing trinket to give you a buff of +healing and then start stacking Lifebloom you can practically keep that buff up forever. How long the +healing effect lasts depends on how long you are able to keep that first Lifebloom from expiring. I can for instance buff my Lifebloom from 451 to 514 just by activating my [wowitem]Oshu'gun Relic[/wowitem]. And that +healing effect won't go away until I let the Lifebloom expire. (To clarify: You won't keep the buff, it will just be affecting your Lifebloom)

Yes, I am bored. Yes, you should take this with a large pinch of salt, because to be quite frank, I am rather unsure about most of it.
Probably forgotten something as well.

LOL
Sretno hote sa ovima
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: delling on August 28, 2007, 01:37:05 am
I'm simply saying that 1 druid = 600/sec, but 3 priests (which we often have in a raid) is 750/sec, if timed correctly.

Not going to happen in every situation of course, I'm just pointing out that a resto druid's gonna have to do damn well to convince me that they're worthwhile :)

Thanks for the textwall tho'
Title: Re: Hotix tauren druid want to join
Post by: Legolew on August 28, 2007, 09:49:42 am
I'm simply saying that 1 druid = 600/sec, but 3 priests (which we often have in a raid) is 750/sec, if timed correctly.

Not going to happen in every situation of course, I'm just pointing out that a resto druid's gonna have to do damn well to convince me that they're worthwhile :)

Thanks for the textwall tho'

Think whats interested here is the if timed correctly, Priests have enough to be doing than timing there Hots where as a druid is there for pretty much that purpose.

one thing you are failing to see or mentioned is that Lifebloom doesnt just have a tick but also a finnishing heal as the last tick.
For tank healing itself a druid can really make a difference especially now we are moving into Hyjal, the resto can be extremely versatile in giving tasks to keep up raid ( with rej, life ) but also MT/OT assigned healing 3 different types of hots plus the ability of Swiftmend and NS/HT for those emergency situations.
not including the extra BR which lets face it are always on CD  ;D .an extra innovate and the healing aura from tree form.

would i take a resto druid over some of our current healers, well i guess we look at each situation to what the raid layout will be , but i think Hyjal and the design of the fights and the boss's would influence me to use a resto over a single healing class.

anyway we can but try and when that chance is given i think Hotix could turn a few heads and show the benefits he can offer in 25man.

Lego