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Archive => Starcraft 2 => General discussion (public) => Topic started by: kagemoth on August 26, 2010, 01:49:37 pm
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You know whats sad. Terran reapers... The fact that this unit is actually a STANDARD
opening unit totally fucking Overpowered shit. This terran i just played had TERRIBLE
micro but simply cuase he could move fast he could inflict monsterous damage.
It crippled me in the start and then he just SACRIFICED his reapers with an attack
move command but crippled my econemy even more. Then just build sum marines and
finished me off. My queens , my Lings , EVEN THE FUCKING SPINE CRAWLER I HAD WERE
ALMOST NULIFIED. Fucking OP units on a fucking overpowered race. I said "Typical
terran faggotry , it's so pathetic." His response, "You should build defending units."
Thats right folks. I lost to sum 8 year old who didn't even notice my defence 'cause
he has Terran as his race.
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Don't you already have a rage thread?
Also, you're only allowed to post if you also draw a comic of everything you rage at.
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Second one eh? This reminds me of
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Don't you already have a rage thread?
Also, you're only allowed to post if you also draw a comic of everything you rage at.
Where is my thumbs up option for this comment >_O
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Since starcraft is considered one of the most balanced rts games in the world I would suspect that Starcraft 2 is quite balanced too.
Are you sure you are not just sucking kage?
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Surrounding reapers with SPEEDLINGS is quite effective I heard ;)
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Surrounding reapers with SPEEDLINGS is quite effective I heard ;)
Indeed, if you scout an early tech lab you should immediately get worried. spread creap like mad around both your exp and main as much as possible. Zergling speed, 2 queens + a spine crawler or two at the mineral line and mass zerglings and tech to roaches. If you can do all this while microing the lings to get good surrounds + not cut too many drones before he gets a critical mass of reapers you will be in good shape!
Just silly how much has to be done just to counter early 50/50 units.
I'm sure either their speed cost will be increased, or the cost for the units themselves. They already have quite long buildtime so doubt they will touch that.
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as far as i know reapers with nitroboost are faster then speedlings on creep
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Make Ultralisks tier 1 imo.
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I was playing ai last night and 5 racks reaper vs terran isn't good at all :'( :'( :'(
Seriously thought, I can't stand reapers either, especially since this mouse keeps falling out so my lings die a horrible death to terrible terrible damage.
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Yeah, Zerg does have to do a lot of work to keep up with basic shit from the other races it seems.
I say all the better for greater glory for the swarm!
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SO... this protoss 4 gates me, Now i don't think protoss is OP but holy shit it is
strong and in the hands of a good player is really a game ender. So like i said.
It's tough , but i hold him , he kills my expansion and i killed off sum of his
workers with my 3 muta then switched to heavy macro and fucked him up.
I watch replay. THAT FUCKER HAD 1/3 of the apm i had and put me on the fucking ropes.
That is NOT cool.
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Even with "high" apm you do alot of really dumb shit, and forget larva alot, kage :P
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Don't get too hung up on APM, real pros can beat you with 1/10th of your APM just by making sure they're not doing useless shit. Just focus on the macro game!
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SO... this protoss 4 gates me, Now i don't think protoss is OP but holy shit it is
strong and in the hands of a good player is really a game ender. So like i said.
It's tough , but i hold him , he kills my expansion and i killed off sum of his
workers with my 3 muta then switched to heavy macro and fucked him up.
I watch replay. THAT FUCKER HAD 1/3 of the apm i had and put me on the fucking ropes.
That is NOT cool.
the 4 gate is an interesting one, I actually mercilessly 4-gated kawe until he could at least somewhat defend against it. I can do the same to you if you want to learn to defend :)
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I just got owned so hard ><
I started today at 59 silver then I proceeded to lose 4 games in a row follow by a win which puts me back at rank 59. Then the next game I win I go from rank 59 silver to rank 9 gold. WTF.
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lol?! im still 37 silver !! boo
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i find reapers so fucking annoying there is nothing i can do against them untill i have a stalker... and even then they are annoying as fuck
while not rageworthy i find it hilarious when zerg try to 6 pool me and when it fails they leave
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Yeah I did my placement games and started around 50th in my gold league. I proceeded to losing against two better players in my first two games and losing no rating. Then I won two and went up by about 8 ranks each time. The system seems a bit weird, you may have just beaten like a much better player and so shot up by a vast amount. Idk what it takes into consideration when promoting you.
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i find reapers so fucking annoying there is nothing i can do against them untill i have a stalker... and even then they are annoying as fuck
while not rageworthy i find it hilarious when zerg try to 6 pool me and when it fails they leave
If you play standard 1gate core build you should be getting stalker out just as the reaper pops at your door. You should concider NOT walling in thus having your production buildings closer to mineral line in some maps. Also if you scout reapers, chrono boost your first stalker. You shouldnt need to walling vs terran anyway if you go 1gate core ;)
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There are other tactics than proxy 2 gate as protoss?
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Yeah I did my placement games and started around 50th in my gold league. I proceeded to losing against two better players in my first two games and losing no rating. Then I won two and went up by about 8 ranks each time. The system seems a bit weird, you may have just beaten like a much better player and so shot up by a vast amount. Idk what it takes into consideration when promoting you.
Yeah I have no idea, I just lost a match, but gained a rank :o
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Maybe you lost against much higher rated players, so u didn't lose that much, but then won against some much higher rated players and gained a lot.
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There are other tactics than proxy 2 gate as protoss?
No I lied :)
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RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2 games in a row 2gate proxy ugh
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As long as you learn something consructive from each game it will only get better!
I did some 1v1s vs Brother, and I learned stuff each game, even though I got owned every time pretty much.
I would love to have more practice partners!
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wana fight?
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wana fight?
Yes, make a thread.
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Do we get to play with brother too?
I'll practise from monday on, Dev!
Oh how I long for Monday..
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Need to rage moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Gold league is only full of cheesers.
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Abuse that, if lets say 70% of your matches is some really early cheese/rush go for defensive build at start (pool at 10 if you are zerg lets say) and then counter em when their initial rush fails. Couse if it fails they will be behind on economy.
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this in average 6pool!
(http://xoops.iron-edge.co.uk/forum-new/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5249.0;attach=2666;image)
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HATE THIS GRISH GUY!
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Click to enlarge:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/Dark_Genisis/th_DAMCANNONRUSH.gif) (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/Dark_Genisis/?action=view¤t=DAMCANNONRUSH.gif)
Somewhat an over-exageration... Somewhat...
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http://www.livestream.com/rigid54/video?clipId=pla_7ab816c6-7ecc-4b4d-bdb3-c6c58ba14825
Good quality rage around 2h:48m- 3h . I dont blame him! (it's Rigid stream)
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meh, if he just actually had a ling near the t base and caught the mech ball in motion he'd have owned him...
no reason to rage when you make the wrong decision.
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Reapers- Ban them. Ban them/remove them from game WTF WAS FUCKING BLIZZARD THINKING..
I jsut watched 3 games in a row of this FAGGOT terran vs pro zerg(PhoenixWeRRa) and
it makes me sick to my stomache. There is Nothing and i mean absolutly NOTHING a zerg
can do about it. Roaches(the supposed anti) cant kill them in the hands of a decent
microing Terran. Zergling get 2 shotted. Queens... lol. And when the enemy finally
brings out a few mauraders (cause you will have roaches or you woulda died by then)
you die...
Phoenix is an extremly talented player and very high up in his diamond division.
I was looking at this and if this korean couldn't beat it then there is NO way i
will beat it , and it makes me sick 'cause this is how the game is atm. People who
play terran should be ashamed of themselves for playing such a disgusting race and
shame on Blizzard for bringing such a ridiculous unit into the game.
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Reapers- Ban them. Ban them/remove them from game WTF WAS FUCKING BLIZZARD THINKING..
I jsut watched 3 games in a row of this FAGGOT terran vs pro zerg(PhoenixWeRRa) and
it makes me sick to my stomache. There is Nothing and i mean absolutly NOTHING a zerg
can do about it. Roaches(the supposed anti) cant kill them in the hands of a decent
microing Terran. Zergling get 2 shotted. Queens... lol. And when the enemy finally
brings out a few mauraders (cause you will have roaches or you woulda died by then)
you die...
Phoenix is an extremly talented player and very high up in his diamond division.
I was looking at this and if this korean couldn't beat it then there is NO way i
will beat it , and it makes me sick 'cause this is how the game is atm. People who
play terran should be ashamed of themselves for playing such a disgusting race and
shame on Blizzard for bringing such a ridiculous unit into the game.
Yeah it is absurd how effective that rush is, I know MorroW used it on IdrA every single game because he knew that was the only way he could beat him. I know in an interview he complained that Terran Reaper Rushing forces Zerg to go into a roaches and a quick Lair for the speed upgrade, and then Terran just go Tanks or Marauders and make all the investment in Roaches worthless.
Though the game that made me rage even more was IdrA vs Drewbie, it clearly shows the imbalance of Terran(vs Zerg especially.
Sucks Terran can control this game so much. Hopefully Patch 1.1 will save the day, or Heart of the Swarm (dammit I want Lurkers back!)
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WHAT THE FUX!?!?!@!?@!
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Agree with you Kage, i recently just changed my race from terran to Zerg as i began to like the idea of zerg, and yesterday i played some fun games with some friends, and Reapers completely rape me as Zerg, the only way i was able to actually keep em a bit of bay was to get extremely early gas for Lair and the a Spine, because roaches will get countered by the comming Marauders so bad.
Also making your base extremely tight helps blocking off the reapers with queen and lings, but it is really a pain :/
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Agree with you Kage, i recently just changed my race from terran to Zerg as i began to like the idea of zerg, and yesterday i played some fun games with some friends, and Reapers completely rape me as Zerg, the only way i was able to actually keep em a bit of bay was to get extremely early gas for Lair and the a Spine, because roaches will get countered by the comming Marauders so bad.
Also making your base extremely tight helps blocking off the reapers with queen and lings, but it is really a pain :/
Keep your base tight, get speedlings, scatter a few spines and spread creep.
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Yea that's what i meant hugman, guess i just didnt get te point fully out :)
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You mad? Tbh I've seen a lot of zergs defend against a scouted reaper rush, using their queen, spine crawlers, a few workers, keeping their base tight & speedlings. They usually tech to roaches, if your opponent is getting marauders after the reaper rush then get mutalisks? Anyway you'll be pleased to see:
Reapers against zerg are stronger than expected. Due to the zealot build time increase, reapers would be a bit problematic in combination with proxy barracks, bunkers, and/or marauders against protoss. Therefore, we have decided to increase the build time of reapers as well from 40 to 45 seconds. Fast reaper + bunker, or fast marine + bunker rushes are problematic against zerg. Although this rush would never outright destroy the zerg player, we feel zerg suffers too much of a disadvantage from either having to cancel the fast expansion, or getting trapped inside the main base for too long, so we are also increasing the bunker build time from 30 to 35 seconds.
Stop crying please. The game just came out ofc there are going to be balance issues, hardly any new game is perfect from launch. There will be patches and the notes are there. You saw how stupidly balanced end game brood war was so just calm down.
Next patch everyone will be like:
Omfg race x is op nerf it, why do they have it in the game, omg I keep losing to strategy x, omg why do I play this game? Etc.. etc..
Good terran players will still be good come any patch. You'll just be less likely to lose to baddies using the same strat over and over again. And higher level games will be more balanced and hopefully more enjoyable to watch.
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Morrow doing a number of reaper rushes vs Dimaga and failing each time.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4127660/ (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4127660/)
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You guys say make your base tight and scatter a few spines and get lings. Lings help when there is only 1-2 reapers .. and bear in mind i said a DECENT terran wont let those reapers die. The reaper numbers increase. Have u seen what 10 reapers do to a
spine crawler hahahahaahah .. ha ha. . ha . haaa....*snifle* Yeh , try teching up to a
spire. Btw ANOTHER Thing. by the time u have that lair upgraded guess how many reapers are
on the field. And guess how fast reapers take down a spire or any building for that matter.
Phoenix also tried making a spire the one game. The first he tried to just expand , the 2nd
he fucking 1 based and tried to tech but alas , to no avail.
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You guys are really telling me Kage should not complain becouse if he have speedlings, crawlers and queen's on creep he can maybe surive and dont let a tier 1 50/50 unit to totally uterrly fuck him? Game is not balanced at all atm, Terran should get series of fat nerfs (beggining from reapers, going thru marouders and ending on this mule bullshit). Then we wont see a 220 apm zerg players lose to a retards that play sim city for 25 mins and when they reach critical mass they move out with army that counter's everything.
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As I already stated and quoted the patch notes, reapers are being nerfed and I read somewere that the bonus damage to marauders won't apply to buildings anymore (not 100% on that), I don't see why mules are op when zerg can produce more than 1 drone at a time from the start and protoss can chrono boost probes from the start? Terran need to upgrade to oc, before they get mule so I really don't see that as any massive advantage, plus a lot of terrans use energy on scan and sometimes even call down supply if they really suck. Also battlecruisers, bunkers, seige tanks are all being nerfed. Here is a link to the patch notes so people can stop complaining about things that are already being changed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/692221.
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Ofc you dont see how mules are op, you are terrible.
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I think they're good but not op. I don't really see a lot of people complaining about them, just you in fact. I watch high level games all the time and I see a lot of players using that energy on scans in the mid-late game. They're good early obviously and that's if you go for an early oc.
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mules are fine.
Just need a cooldown equal to the time it takes to regen 50 energy.
Reapers should really only be good against lings/drones, or buildings. I think the best fix to them would be to reduce their range!
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That would make roach an actual counter then. blizzard doesnt support those kinda
ideas for zerg.
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I think they're good but not op. I don't really see a lot of people complaining about them, just you in fact. I watch high level games all the time and I see a lot of players using that energy on scans in the mid-late game. They're good early obviously and that's if you go for an early oc.
Poping 8 mules at same time basicly doubles your income and turns you from "Ohh shit" situation into "eheheheheehh its ok, im terran"
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Poping 8 mules at same time basicly doubles your income and turns you from "Ohh shit" situation into "eheheheheehh its ok, im terran"
That is a wrong way of looking at it. Over time it doesn't matter if he uses it on CD or pools energy (assuming he doesn't get capped) and uses 8 in go. This really isn't any different than a zerg sitting on 200 supply, but still spawning larvae wait for some of his units to die.
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Uhm, yes it does, imagine big battle at 3rd expo, you pull your scv's to auto repair some tanks blablabl w/e, 3/4 of your's army dies, but ohh how lucky, you forgot to use your energy half match... Now you can have bonus + 1600 minerals for minute for which allows you to get out of this shit situation,
And honestly i dont understand your comparision with zerg larva.
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Maybe it wouldn't be an oh shit situation if the so called terran player actually used his mules on time rather than sucking at macro.
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Yea i cant see where your going either about Mule's Narw. They arent that over-powered compared to the early game advantage Toss and zerg has when it comes to be able to boost economy. I could agree with Palmar maybe putting a short cooldown on the mules just so that you cant like "omg" i forgot to spend energy, but that would probably be the only need to do with em - if any.
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Yea i cant see where your going either about Mule's Narw. They arent that over-powered compared to the early game advantage Toss and zerg has when it comes to be able to boost economy. I could agree with Palmar maybe putting a short cooldown on the mules just so that you cant like "omg" i forgot to spend energy, but that would probably be the only need to do with em - if any.
Ok. Allow me to show u why its OP. I am Zerg , i am bad so i miss my spawn larvaes and
energy starts too pool on my queen. This Spawn time is larvae i will NEVER have again...
Now i am terran , i am bad so i am not calling down mules be it cause i am saving for
scans (which u probably wont cause u are bad). Now i have max energy on my orbital commands
"oh i am in trouble cause my army SUMHOW died" calls down 8 mules , problem solved. That is
one of the imbalances. No matter how bad you are as a terran you dont get punished for it.
Zerg on the other hand lose by making 1 error. 1 error can be your loss as a zerg , that is
how unforgiving it is. I just watched Rigid lose cause he didnt upgrade Baneling speed
fast enough. How unfair is that. This 1 base turtling terran couldnt be broken and he had 3
bases inc gold and then terran rocks up and wins cause he had FULL energy mule spam on his exp when he decided to move out.
Disgusting.
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meh, ZvT is fine after early game.
the only problem is early game, which could be solved by allowing zerg to scout better.
There really is a problem with all zerg being on some ego trip thinking they're much better than they really are, and that their losses are mainly due to imbalance.
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I agree, Zerg on suffers slighly in the early game and I think the reaper + zealot change in wednesday's patch will fix that.
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the only problem is early game, which could be solved by allowing zerg to scout better.
There really is a problem with all zerg being on some ego trip thinking they're much better than they really are, and that their losses are mainly due to imbalance.
loled.
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There really is a problem with all zerg being on some ego trip thinking they're much better than they really are, and that their losses are mainly due to imbalance.
This tbh.
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Wow. Are you really implying that i watch bad people play. I only watch top zergs
and by top zergs i mean CellaWeRRa, PhoenixWeRRa, Sen , Rigid and even despite the
fact that they are really good sports about it , there is no denying that when you
watch Terrans playing at 1/5th of thier skill lvl and having close games that the
game is not just broken EARLY_GAME but LATE_GAME aswell.
Not saying your outright wrong Palmar, but that generalisation is just too large to
ignore.
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but it is actually a problem.
the numbers are pulled out of my ass, but you can probably see where I'm going with it.
If you play against terrans on the ladder for 100 games, and you win 40 of them, and lose 60. If the game was balanced you'd probably have won 50 and lost 50.
The problem is that you'll likely blame at least 50 of those losses on imbalance, when you should be blaming 10 on imbalance, and 50 on simple mistakes.
you get it?
It's a dangerous road to go down, and it's really hard to maintain perspective...
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Just watched rigid fight another turle/expand toward your apponent Terran. Unbeatable. Rigid stopped the reaper bunker. Stopped the Thor drop and stoppd the cloack banshee. The terran was SO bad but there was nothing he could do about it.
1 battle and the game was over.
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ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... why does SC2 have to be down at the same time as WoW :-[
WTB offline mode without needing to log into Bnet 1st.
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So... Let us begin this with a lil story...
A long time ago... In SC2 Beta there was a Zerg unit, he was called the Ultralisk. Being brought over from the land low-resolution and low-pixels however didn't agree with him: he was clumsy and pretty much useless, especially regarding his splash.
Then Blizzard blessed him with an amazing ability to fix the poor clumsy fellow, they modified his splash to work like so: unit size +2. This was amazing! Okay maybe not law defying, change the world as we know it ground breaking achievement but it made poor Ultralisk go from useless to... Okay...ish.
Then patch 1.1 came along, they decided to let Ultralisks splash buildings, since their Ram attack was getting mixed results and things like the Planetary Fortress (AKA: the DOOM-KILL ALL ZERG GROUND UNITS THAT DARE CROSS ITS PATH-FORTRESS OF PAIN!) when accompanied by repairing SCV's that made it near invincible!
However Blizzard clearly don't test their patches as well as they make out to (they announced this dam patch a month in advance and still let this slip by!), and they clearly forgot about their buff to make Ultralisks worthwhile (splash = unit size +2) and this lead to extreme results that resulted in many Terran QQ's that flooded the forums like never before.
So Blizzard defended their pride and joy as quickly as possible, after all Terran having to actually fight for their victories was unheard of! So they quickly release a "hotfix" and modify the entire way the splash damage works, forgetting that they originally did this to buff the almost useless Ultralisk instead of just making a modified version that only affected buildings...
The sad results:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9660/ultrasplash.jpg)
Goodbye Mr. Ultralisk, perhaps in Heart of the Swarm you won't be as useful as a bowl of rice with a single chopstick.
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know what you mean dude. Its like , that is our t3 and its so fucking clunky that
i dont even want to use it , you even have to upgade it before u make it or it is
TOTALLY useless. Then i watched Decemvre yesterday , man its so fucking pathetic ,
Zerg CANNOT just engage. He needs to do fucking surrounds and get perfect banelings
into the marines , attack before the tanks siege. All this shit and then terran comes
and A-Moves and kills EVERY FUCKING THING ON THE MAP, while losing like 3 marines.
It sickens me even more knowing that a zerg needs to be a fucking beast to even
reach that stage of the game , cause the terran (reaper , banshee or helions)
harrass is actually good , where as we cant even do that cause there is a fucking
terran wall. Look at the replays thread. The last replays i linked there. You will
see how This 2nd terran just leaves game cuase most simply don't know how to react if
there are units in the base.
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know what you mean dude. Its like , that is our t3 and its so fucking clunky that
i dont even want to use it , you even have to upgade it before u make it or it is
TOTALLY useless. Then i watched Decemvre yesterday , man its so fucking pathetic ,
Zerg CANNOT just engage. He needs to do fucking surrounds and get perfect banelings
into the marines , attack before the tanks siege. All this shit and then terran comes
and A-Moves and kills EVERY FUCKING THING ON THE MAP, while losing like 3 marines.
It sickens me even more knowing that a zerg needs to be a fucking beast to even
reach that stage of the game , cause the terran (reaper , banshee or helions)
harrass is actually good , where as we cant even do that cause there is a fucking
terran wall. Look at the replays thread. The last replays i linked there. You will
see how This 2nd terran just leaves game cuase most simply don't know how to react if
there are units in the base.
Just need to adapt.
Zerg is very viable, as can be seen on Cool's play in the GSL
But maybe it's not for you, switching from zerg to protoss is very easy. Terran takes slightly more adaptation.
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Zerg is very viable, as can be seen on Cool's play in the GSL.
Why do you have to be a pro just to make Zerg even viable? You don't have to be a beast of a player to win with Terran or Protoss. You gotta be playing an ace-game or be in a totally different skill-league of your opponent to be on equal footing.
But maybe it's not for you, switching from zerg to protoss is very easy. Terran takes slightly more adaptation.
Er... Yeah... Sure... I remember when Footmunch accidently got Terran the one time, we told him "just build marines and marauders!" over TS and he won! The poor Zerg he was playing against didn't stand a chance...
When I used to play Random on the ladder, when I got Terran it was a free win. I have a 100% win-rate as Terran vs Protoss/Zerg (and I've only lost 1 TvT). I used to appologize to my opponent at the start of the game if I randomed Terran. :o
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Fruitdealer > Your arguments.
Stop blaming the game you horribles.
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Who cares if you have to be good to play zerg. It's common knowledge that in BW (which is widely considered the most balanced and best RTS ever made) Protoss were a shitton easier to pick up and play than the other two races.
But that didn't change the fact that the game was balanced.
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Fruitdealer > Your arguments.
Don't you mean Fruitseller? Atleast thats what Day[9], PsY and Husky call him. And if so, that guy is an absolute beast of a player.
Which doesn't make my arguements null, it just proves the point that you have to have perfect skills and make no mistakes what-so-ever to be even close to equal footing.
You make a mistake with Zerg and you've most likely lost the game, you make a mistake with Terran or Protoss and the game is still up in the air waiting to be claimed.
Me(and anyone else) being able to faceroll(AKA: stimroll) and go into Diamond with Terran is a problem.
PS: A brilliant read:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/777578299
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He hardly played perfect - he did play very good.
But we are far from his level and he's battling it out vs Top Terran players either way.
Instead of crying omgnurf, try to go around the problem you're having instead.
You have all the tools and utilities, put energy into using those correctly before crying nerf - later when you do play a perfect game and still lose then I will surely agree that X is underpowered or Y is OP.
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later when you do play a perfect game and still lose then I will surely agree that X is underpowered or Y is OP.
That is the whole point! Why the heck should I have to play a perfect game where one tiny mistake can mean my entire downfall, but if I play Terran or Protoss I can make mistakes without worrying about losing the game right then and there?
If that isn't a clear sign of imbalance then what is?
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Fruitdealer > Your arguments.
Stop blaming the game you horribles.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155310
No. Don't nach. Just don't.
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Fruitdealer > Your arguments.
Stop blaming the game you horribles.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155310
No. Don't nach. Just don't.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Difficulty equals balance?
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Patch - Ultras attack buffed vs buildings. Buff.
Bug Fix/Stealth Nerf - ultras nerfed vs everything.
Intention of Blizzard was to buff Ultras in certain area, resoult is nerfing em versus everything. I dont get why you guys are implying that this is even remotly fine. Person responsbile for not testing that change and implementing it in first place should be just fired, change should get reverted, thats normal solution.
What happened now is some joke.
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Difficulty equals balance?
I dont think you have problems with reading Nach, so you just trolling i guess?
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How to sum up this entire thread:
Zerg is viable, but way less forgiving than Terran. Terran is overpowered, the game is not yet balanced perfectly.
Or...?
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Difficulty equals balance?
I dont think you have problems with reading Nach, so you just trolling i guess?
I'm actually pretty serious.
Z has loads of nifty tools and units, people focus too much on UNIT X v UNIT Y and OMGWHATIF scenarios.
I don't think Z is massively underpowered now that I've seen Fruitdealers games - I just think that Z is harder to play. But harder = worse apparently?
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Patch - Ultras attack buffed vs buildings. Buff.
Bug Fix/Stealth Nerf - ultras nerfed vs everything.
Intention of Blizzard was to buff Ultras in certain area, resoult is nerfing em versus everything. I dont get why you guys are implying that this is even remotly fine. Person responsbile for not testing that change and implementing it in first place should be just fired, change should get reverted, thats normal solution.
What happened now is some joke.
It makes me wonder what took them a month to release this patch? Were they really testing their implied changes? I mean they changed how Ultralisks attack buildings, surely they should test that and you know... Attack some buildings with a few Ultralisks and see if it is working as intended?
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I don't think Z is massively underpowered now that I've seen Fruitdealers games - I just think that Z is harder to play. But harder = worse apparently?
The same Fruitdealer/Fruitseller/Cool who openly admitted he has a 10% win ratio with Zerg against his Teammates and the same person who had a huge rage and the same person who wants to change his race to something more playable.
Harder is a flaw, though in the context that it is more unforgiving. If you have 2 equal-level players (heck lets say they are clones or bots with the exact same programming for the hell of it), the player with the easier race will most likely make less mistakes and thus not be punished as much than the player with the harder race.
A lot of players are switching. I guess the game will be perfectly balanced when every matchup is Terran vs Terran.
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if you're linking threads, you should at least do some research on the subject.
Cool later claimed, after the patch, that he was happy with the last patch and would be staying Zerg.
But by all means, if you think terran has it so good, just fucking switch to terran.
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Fruitdealer > Your arguments.
Stop blaming the game you horribles.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155310
No. Don't nach. Just don't.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SOMEONE WROTE IT ON INTERNET IT MUST BE TRUE.
Btw fruitwhatever said in his interview that he is infact staying with zerg.
Also all of you are bunch of whiners, the "balance" problems have hardly ANY effect on your(our) gameplay. Obviously L2P issue. Don't waste your energy here, play the game instead!
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and the same person who wants to change his race to something more playable.
He changed his mind after GSL and I don't blame him. I sure changed my thoughts of ever blaming something else than myself for losing after seeing Fruitdealers plays, dear god.
the player with the easier race will most likely make less mistakes and thus not be punished as much than the player with the harder race.
A lot of players are switching. I guess the game will be perfectly balanced when every matchup is Terran vs Terran.
Ofcourse people are changing from a harder class when there is money on the line - it's their job.
Personally I just see that Zerg is more demanding out of you as a player - but it still has the same tools as everyone else and it's own strength/weaknesses.
Fruitdealer has shown me the way to never blame anything but myself when I lose, simply because he's shown the world exactly what type of potential Z has.
Difficulty does not equal balance, atleast not in my book.
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First of all, Sparrow i dont remind myself if ever told anyone here to learn to play, even tho i saw loads of stuff wrong in many threads. So would you kindly refrain from making such comments untill you learned how to play by yourself.
And i even wrote it as simple as possible, will quote myself then
"Patch - Ultras attack buffed vs buildings. Buff.
Bug Fix/Stealth Nerf - ultras nerfed vs everything.
Intention of Blizzard was to buff Ultras in certain area, resoult is nerfing em versus everything. I dont get why you guys are implying that this is even remotly fine. Person responsbile for not testing that change and implementing it in first place should be just fired, change should get reverted, thats normal solution.
What happened now is some joke. "
Where is flaw in this sentence logic? What from this is a whinning? Buff turned into nerf couse of lack of testing and i should be just happy and adapt. Sure thing. Or wait, its Blizzard, what has to be done is whinning on their forums for 2 weeks before they admit they did something wrong, couse thats the only way it works with this company.
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if you're linking threads, you should at least do some research on the subject.
I didn't link it, but 'kay. We still need to see what he feels about the injustice of Patch 1.1.1
But by all means, if you think terran has it so good, just fucking switch to terran.
I have self-respect :P
Also humans bore me, why play a game to play bloody humans? Same reason I'd never play a human in WoW or any fantasy game for that matter.
Also I remember someone also complaining of the Terran imbalance Thursday night against Shiftey after the League. I also remember the same someone saying "why risk a win as Zerg when I can guarantee a win as Protoss" :P No imbalance what-so-ever huh?
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Ok, again, Difficulty != Balance.
Balance would be not having the same tools of winning - but zerg do.
If you guys think you're losing due to imbalances, I would have you think again.
The more you think that, the more you're focusing on the WRONG reason you're losing and directly you become an angrier and worse player, who then keeps blaming the game when most likely you still have fucking miles to improve.
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Good to know why i keep losing, it's because of the inbalances in the game!
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So would you kindly refrain from making such comments untill you learned how to play by yourself.
Oh wow.. I will kindly not refrain myself of making such comments since I see absolutely no reason why I should not.
Ultralisks are "broken" since they are abit inferior than they were before? I remember maybe 3 games where the game has taken so long to actually see ultralisks on the field, and because of this zerg is absolutely broken. 1 unit.
And it is clearly L2P issue, get over it.
Edit: Oh and dont mention self respect and race in same sentence like that, makes no sense.
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Oh and dont mention self respect and race in same sentence like that, makes no sense.
It's an IdrA quote. When people ask him why he doesn't play Terran.
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Ok, again, Difficulty != Balance.
Balance would be not having the same tools of winning - but zerg do.
If you guys think you're losing due to imbalances, I would have you think again.
The more you think that, the more you're focusing on the WRONG reason you're losing and directly you become an angrier and worse player, who then keeps blaming the game when most likely you still have fucking miles to improve.
I think you dont get it, i know im medicore at this at best, i know there is shitload of thing i can improve in. But its a bit discouraging that even if you actually improve a lot you will still be deaiing with same A move faggotry. I dont belive that game is balanced if same effort wise one side wins. If i have to be a better player to win verus someone who is worse how you can call this balanced and fair situation? I paid Blizzard cash to deliver a game which is "competitive e-sport expieriance". Its very competitive and balanced now, IF you play protoss and terran. And no i wont reroll, i did put effort into learning how to zerg which WASNT so easy, not going to start from scraps again.
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So would you kindly refrain from making such comments untill you learned how to play by yourself.
Oh wow.. I will kindly not refrain myself of making such comments since I see absolutely no reason why I should not.
Maybe couse getting a l2p comments from sub 1k diamond protoss player makes you look like a retard, but what i could know.
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All I'm seeing is self justification of losing. It's Blizzards fault, my opponent is bad, I don't A move, zerg is unbalanced.
I think you're all WoW broken, when you finally have a game where there's basically no end to how much you can improve you still beat around the bush about how it's not your fault you're losing.
I don't see the point.
Overcome it. It's not like you don't have the tools to overcome it (like you would NOT have in a game where imbalance is the reason you're losing). Fruitdealer taught me this.
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Allright, I'll concede. I'm being overly zealous about the Zerg is not UP thing compared to what I really feel. I really, really do feel that there are some issues with the game.
But the ultralisk nerf was a reasonable one.
Thing is, Zerg player whine really bothers me because there are so many things wrong.
I firmly believe the major problem zerg has is lack of early scouting options, and blizzard's retarded map pool. The reason I said the whole "why risk losing as zerg when I can just win as protoss" is not an issue.
If I was playing an equal player, I'd always go with Zerg, but because I know I'm better than sintrael, it's easier to noobstomp him as protoss because I'm not as reliant on scouting. PvP is simply a matchup that doesn't involve a lot of surprises, and I'm comfortable with playing an aggressive macro game.
When I complained about losing to shiftey, it's precisely because of that, I had a hunch that the tech lab in the front meant 3rax, but it also could've indicated reapers, so I made roaches instead of banelings, and promptly lost the game, he denied my overlord scout.
Basically, it all comes down to scouting, and bad maps. I truly and honestly believe that if you can stay alive through all the early bullshit (bunker rush, reaper rush, hellions, banshees, void rays, 4gate, immortal push, fast phoenix killing all your ovies, tank/marine push, 3rax and any other stupid 1base harass/all-in) Then Zerg actually has a very good chance of succeeding. The mid- and late-game Zerg army is actually very, very scary.
So all the people whining about tanks, thors, autorepair (lol, just bangling that shit), marauders, stim, mm balls and whatever.... those guys just bother me.
I actually think that with just a few changes the game could be almost perfectly balanced.
1) allow overseers to be built afer evo chamber, and not lair.
2) reduce banshee range to 4-5
3) put a cooldown on mules so you can't save up energy
that's it, that'd be enough to just make the ZvT matchup very, very good.
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Maybe couse getting a l2p comments from sub 1k diamond protoss player makes you look like a retard, but what i could know.
You must really be proud of your 1k diamond points.
Sorry to break it to you, but ladder rank has hardly anything to do with seeing difference in 2 things which in this case are balance issue and L2P issue. And im not even sure what I should comment on you even mentioning race someone plays =D.. Makes just no sense like your previous comments
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All I'm seeing is self justification of losing. It's Blizzards fault, my opponent is bad, I don't A move, zerg is unbalanced.
I think you're all WoW broken, when you finally have a game where there's basically no end to how much you can improve you still beat around the bush about how it's not your fault you're losing.
I don't see the point.
Overcome it. It's not like you don't have the tools to overcome it (like you would NOT have in a game where imbalance is the reason you're losing). Fruitdealer taught me this.
Man, i played protoss on ladder, first match was vs 120 apm around 1150 diamond zerg, close spawn on metalopolis. Do you seriously belive anything he was doing had any impact on resoult of that match? 4 gate a move collect points. And again that was first match on ladder with me as protoss, my whole expieriance bout that race was 5 skimirshes vs rash. Yes, race you pick is not affecting outcome of match and its perfectly balanced that worse player wins vs better one. Totally.
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All I'm seeing is self justification of losing. It's Blizzards fault, my opponent is bad, I don't A move, zerg is unbalanced.
I think you're all WoW broken, when you finally have a game where there's basically no end to how much you can improve you still beat around the bush about how it's not your fault you're losing.
I don't see the point.
Overcome it. It's not like you don't have the tools to overcome it (like you would NOT have in a game where imbalance is the reason you're losing). Fruitdealer taught me this.
Man, i played protoss on ladder, first match was vs 120 apm around 1150 diamond zerg, close spawn on metalopolis. Do you seriously belive anything he was doing had any impact on resoult of that match? 4 gate a move collect points. And again that was first match on ladder with me as protoss, my whole expieriance bout that race was 5 skimirshes vs rash. Yes, race you pick is not affecting outcome of match and its perfectly balanced that worse player wins vs better one. Totally.
Defending a 4gate is like the first trick in the Zerg playbook... like if you lose to a 4gate... ever... you're bad at zerg.
Of course, improved scouting (as I already have touched on) would help, and bigger maps too. Blistering sands is the only really retarded one for defending a 4gate.
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Maybe couse getting a l2p comments from sub 1k diamond protoss player makes you look like a retard, but what i could know.
You must really be proud of your 1k diamond points.
Thats why im the random throwing random l2p comments right mate?
Sorry to break it to you, but ladder rank has hardly anything to do with seeing difference in 2 things which in this case are balance issue and L2P issue. And im not even sure what I should comment on you even mentioning race someone plays =D.. Makes just no sense like your previous comments
It have soemthing to do with cockness. Cockness would be cool if you werent trash, you are trash tho, so put your comments in your ass, makes enough sense for you now?
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Defending a 4gate is like the first trick in the Zerg playbook... like if you lose to a 4gate... ever... you're bad at zerg.
Tell that to Rigid, he seems losing all day to 4 gates. Amd i honestly dont see how losing to close spawn 4 gate all in push makes you bad.
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So why not pick something else up as an offrace if zerg frustrates you so much?
Personally I quite like zerg.
Not like it's WoW and you need to invest hundreds of hours into it.
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Defending a 4gate is like the first trick in the Zerg playbook... like if you lose to a 4gate... ever... you're bad at zerg.
Tell that to Rigid, he seems losing all day to 4 gates. Amd i honestly dont see how losing to close spawn 4 gate all in push makes you bad.
If you know it's coming, you can defend it, otherwise every protoss would do it every game against zerg. Like if there's a strategy that'll win even if the zerg knows it's coming, then why do anything else... ever?
Now, if you were actually droning, or preparing for void rays, or whatever else you might be doing, of course you're going to lose, so once again, the issue is scouting.
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It have soemthing to do with cockness. Cockness would be cool if you werent trash, you are trash tho, so put your comments in your ass, makes enough sense for you now?
What the fuck am I reading?
Also - if you're reading this post with an open and unbiased mind - you'll surely see how much better the Z players seem to find themselves to be.
And your latest post is really really elitist - it's basically a post such as yours that make people cringe over the whole Z IS UNDERPOWERED debate
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Whining about imbalance where it hardly exists is also quite random. And nope, putting comments inside ass at forums, where you post to get commented at does not make sense either.
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But the ultralisk nerf was a reasonable one.
I agree the building nerf was reasonable and it was totally a misjudgement on Blizzards part. We can't have Ultralisks hitting things crazilly out of reach.
I agree 200% that needed fixing, I appologize if I sounded like I was defending that accident - it was more of a joke on my part of how quickly Blizzard came to the aid of the Terran QQ while Zerg seems to get neglected in their lil forum section.
But that fix resulting in a further nerf to the Ultralisk was completely uncalled for and I hope you also see that. They could have given Ultralisks a seperate attack for buildings again (just not call it ram) with the intended fixed splash vs buildings but kept the original splash vs units. Having a weaker unit splash for an already acclaimed "practically useless" unit was uncalled for.
Otherwise I agree with most of your points, I also feel that there is too much uncalled for QQ from Zerg and unfortunately that QQ drowns out the legit complaints and gets it classified as just more "Zerg QQ" and then a bunch of people shout "L2P" and people get upset.
I think your best point is regarding MULEs, something needs to be done about them the mechanic is far too forgiving where as Inject Larva is not. Same goes for Chronoboost. A cooldown or a smaller energy supply would atleast bring some form of balance.
I'm personally still hoping Heart of the Swarm is the saving grace for the Zerg.
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200/200 army of banglings conquers all.
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I'm personally still hoping Heart of the Swarm is the saving grace for the Zerg.
Fruitdealer, baby!
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Fruitdealer, baby!
Personally Artosis is my hero 8)
But shoot,
Mind sharing some links of his recent matches? Can't seem to find any for the life of me (except this one website that wants me to dam well pay!). I've only watched his non-tourny games.
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Defending a 4gate is like the first trick in the Zerg playbook... like if you lose to a 4gate... ever... you're bad at zerg.
Tell that to Rigid, he seems losing all day to 4 gates. Amd i honestly dont see how losing to close spawn 4 gate all in push makes you bad.
If you know it's coming, you can defend it, otherwise every protoss would do it every game against zerg. Like if there's a strategy that'll win even if the zerg knows it's coming, then why do anything else... ever?
Now, if you were actually droning, or preparing for void rays, or whatever else you might be doing, of course you're going to lose, so once again, the issue is scouting.
Now you see, we are reaching a point where i disagree with you. If 4 gate would be not efficient vs zerg and would be so easy to defend they would't be using it dont you think? Again, this dude plays 1600+ ratings in both eu and us. I've got a flue and almost whole last week i was watching his 4 hours long streams. 4 gate's all day. His opponent's arent scrubs.
Whining about imbalance where it hardly exists is also quite random. And nope, putting comments inside ass at forums, where you post to get commented at does not make sense either.
I dont know why i post on forums, certainly not to hear l2p comments from you. And on what you assume that inbalance barely exists? On ladder? On recent tournaments? On your own expieriance? Ladder tells there is inbalance, GSL was like what? 2 zerg players in last 16? Your own expieriance is worth shit, abot that we have agreement already. So please tell me, englight me.
What the fuck am I reading?
Also - if you're reading this post with an open and unbiased mind - you'll surely see how much better the Z players seem to find themselves to be.
And your latest post is really really elitist - it's basically a post such as yours that make people cringe over the whole Z IS UNDERPOWERED debate
Nach this whole topic is full of ppl telling that its 90% learn to play issue and zerg have no right to whine. But that isnt cockness right?
So i will even add more. Every single one of you 50 apm bads go play zerg and then crawl to back your 4 gates and (insert random terran faggotry here, loads to chose) couse you would't be even able to be in spots you are now, and yes im pretty sure of it.
Here, as much elitist as i can.
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All I can add is my own opinion: I know I perform better as terran, and would likely have had a higher standing in the ladder if I played them full-time. But I enjoy the zerg style more than terran, so I gimp myself deliberately.
Zerg needs help (in the early game), yes. No amount of discussion in here will do jack shit though.
Experiment!
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Well. I swapped to T. I'll play Z when game is fixed i thinks.
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Well. I swapped to T. I'll play Z when game is fixed i thinks.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Please don't say this is true? :(
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Well. I swapped to T. I'll play Z when game is fixed i thinks.
Hah, weakling.
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Allright, I'll concede. I'm being overly zealous about the Zerg is not UP thing compared to what I really feel. I really, really do feel that there are some issues with the game.
But the ultralisk nerf was a reasonable one.
Thing is, Zerg player whine really bothers me because there are so many things wrong.
I firmly believe the major problem zerg has is lack of early scouting options, and blizzard's retarded map pool. The reason I said the whole "why risk losing as zerg when I can just win as protoss" is not an issue.
If I was playing an equal player, I'd always go with Zerg, but because I know I'm better than sintrael, it's easier to noobstomp him as protoss because I'm not as reliant on scouting. PvP is simply a matchup that doesn't involve a lot of surprises, and I'm comfortable with playing an aggressive macro game.
When I complained about losing to shiftey, it's precisely because of that, I had a hunch that the tech lab in the front meant 3rax, but it also could've indicated reapers, so I made roaches instead of banelings, and promptly lost the game, he denied my overlord scout.
Basically, it all comes down to scouting, and bad maps. I truly and honestly believe that if you can stay alive through all the early bullshit (bunker rush, reaper rush, hellions, banshees, void rays, 4gate, immortal push, fast phoenix killing all your ovies, tank/marine push, 3rax and any other stupid 1base harass/all-in) Then Zerg actually has a very good chance of succeeding. The mid- and late-game Zerg army is actually very, very scary.
So all the people whining about tanks, thors, autorepair (lol, just bangling that shit), marauders, stim, mm balls and whatever.... those guys just bother me.
I actually think that with just a few changes the game could be almost perfectly balanced.
1) allow overseers to be built afer evo chamber, and not lair.
2) reduce banshee range to 4-5
3) put a cooldown on mules so you can't save up energy
that's it, that'd be enough to just make the ZvT matchup very, very good.
I actually missed this post. Dont know how. Im not sure if it's just scouting issue or more like tribute to limits of zerg early game. When you face zerg you just know what will happen, there is barely and suprise.
Maps are so huge for this, zerg having 2 maps that can be considered zerg friendly in whole ladder pool just seems wrong (zerg friendly map i consider scrap station and long spawns on meta. MAYBE xel'naga isnt bad also).
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First 2 matches. I dont even know what im doing. Not even building a 3rd baracks
against the zerg , not even pressuring just building random shit and getting to
2000 minerals xD haha
ooops forgot to link. Sec
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Difficulty equals balance?
I dont think you have problems with reading Nach, so you just trolling i guess?
I'm actually pretty serious.
Z has loads of nifty tools and units, people focus too much on UNIT X v UNIT Y and OMGWHATIF scenarios.
I don't think Z is massively underpowered now that I've seen Fruitdealers games - I just think that Z is harder to play. But harder = worse apparently?
I think in a game like starcraft where you can never be 'perfect' since there's pretty much always more you could be doing or more you could be controlling finely even with KOREAN APM, that difficulty does have a contribution to balance.
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First 2 matches. I dont even know what im doing. Not even building a 3rd baracks
against the zerg , not even pressuring just building random shit and getting to
2000 minerals xD haha
ooops forgot to link. Sec
And yet that is all you need to do :(
I'm not looking forward to a game of only Terran vs Terran...
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That game on lost temple, kage... jesus
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yup. Well i am completly and utterly noob with terran i dont get punished for it
though.
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That game on lost temple, kage... jesus
Zerg a-moved into the tanks?
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That zerg you played vs was horrid, absolutly horrid. 4k minerals, lol.
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That zerg you played vs was horrid, absolutly horrid. 4k minerals, lol.
Was it Devlin? :-*
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I liked the energy on kages orbital, always keep enough energy for a scan.. or 4
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^^
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Chorus
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Ask the Toss in this motherfucker
Terran's OP. Terran's OP. Terran's OP.
Ask the Zerg in this motherfucker
Terran's OP. Terran's OP. Terran's OP.
x2
yeah i think terran's op, bitch i said it
everybody here knows its true so just admit
dont try to make it my fault, say that i aint got skill,
you shouldn't have to be a pro to beat got damn build
tell me why the fuck i need to tech to t2+
just to beat a fuckin 3 rax t1 push
I gotta make foe (4) buildings just to get HT's
you dodge my psi storm
but I can't dodge yo EMPs
little bitches do what you want
while i got to pull out my hair
tryna figure out how you techin
you know even you hate the mirror
gotta have the best ground to ground
gotta have the best air to air
gotta have the least set of skills
to get into diamond oh yeah
i think its funny you pussies go-and-hide behind big walls
lookin at these little dick bitches tryna-go and make big balls [editor: bio balls]
What Terran needs is a nerf
and-i-think-that zerg needs a buff
but i rep the protoss forever
so tho yo toss hands up
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Chorus
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You know you OP.
Just don't be.
So damn gay.
Sendin shouts out to g-n-the-i-a to the L
for the fast build to void ray
Hail the king of the beta i-d-the-r-a
cuz he speak truth, he re-fuse to not say
that the T-race is i-m-the-b-a
up in sc2 one race is too gay
so if your race starts with T
guess what you play?
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Chorus
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Rob Hustle all up in this.
Terran's, I'm putting you on notice. You're OP.
Fuck h-to the usky husky.
You sound like a d-to the umbass, dumbass
Day 9 for life.
Special shouts out to TeamLiquid.Net
Yeah.
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Yea You know We Terran hell yea We OP...
6 Pool walls still intact yea you can blow me...
On a mission marines rushing with Medvacs...
Maruders in that ass homie better just fall back...
Put ya spine crawlers down banshees coming in...
Bring ya mutas out Missile Turrets are the shit...
Shit anything we got with an M tears up ya base...
I beat a dude today using nothing but my face...
Protoss bring ya 4 gate get kited around...
Void Rays Vikings start smashing em out...
Micro, Hell no.. No reason for that today..
I'm terran motherfucker it's just 1 A...
Shoot shoot, cause Battle Cruisers ain't cheap...
Cause I'm on one base you need 3 to compete...
Then If I'm about to lose I'm a be a little bitch...
Lift off my fucking buildings make you search for that shit...
Terran in the building best believe we OP...
To get to Diamond all you really need is a heartbeat...
Watch all the Zerg pros cry and switch races...
It's fucking great being Blizzards little favorite... x2
Concussive Concussive.. I got to slow you down...
Not to mention take u out seige tank higher ground...
Oribital Command, who really needs SCV's...
Mules fall like rain drops supply blocked Bitch Please...
Ghost in ya base, I repeat ghost in ya base...
Nukes set for minerals, economy erased...
Reapers in 3 minutes these others just don't get it...
Hellions love zergs flamebroiled on a skillet...
Why you in the forums crying and bitching..
Why the fuck you think its terran that they keep picking??...
Monkey see monkey do Terrans got them shootas...
Message to the Zerg These ain't ya daddy's Mutas...
Complain about our walls while bunkered troops drink coffee...
Send ya banelings to their death we rebuild while u watching...
We got an answer for everything that you'd think...
Incoming Stalker Units.. Shit, I dare you not to blink...
Terran in the building best believe we OP...
To get to Diamond all you really need is a heartbeat...
Watch all the Zerg pros cry and switch races...
It's fucking great being Blizzards little favorite... x2
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Fuck playing T , im gonna stick with Z no matter what , i just feel dirty playing T.
Yea I'm back thirst has been attached...
Switched Race felt good when that larva finally hatched...
Now it's time to drone up, Zerg is for the grownups...
I'm 26 guess I guess it's time to show up....
Get away from kiddie games play with the power...
Rush me once the creeps down it'll take about an hour...
I ain't sour bout the hate threads Idra held it down...
Not jumping on the wagon bitches The Swarm is in me now...
And I'm so proud So good terran tears filling rivers...
Magic Box ain't really new but that shit delivers...
Aiming banelings for the tech lab he ain't see it coming...
Now the coast is clear zerglings off and running...
Now the mutas flying but I ain't crying here...
Here the screams from the base Thor is Fucking Queer...
Gives me safe haven, all I want and more...
What you say Raven? Nevermore , Nevermore...
Chorus:
You've been warned the Swarm about to Stand Up...
We taking over Terrans better back up...
Feel the rush start owning the crowd...
I know its a just a game but its a part of me now... x2
Rob Hustle:
We can break.back.in.
If you hidin with the nydus
Dont give-a-damn if-you-don't like us
Come and fight us
You be lookin-like-a pin cushion
When we open fire with a line full of hydras
Aw shit.
Thats all she wrote.
I bet it itch
When ya balls get fungal growth'd
We got roaches
But they aint the kind ya smoke
They got acid saliva its kinda dope
Yeah i try to cope
I think of broodwar
Take it back
I really don't know how to act
They need to bring dem lurkers back
We need some aoe
So we can beat back weak harasss
We can beat that ass
Blings online
Get em and i hit em in ya mineral line
Makin yall cry when lings run by
Mutas fly by
Workers die
Money go bye bye
I dont care. if you dont like my verse
Get online and i smash on nerds
Fast expand or go 6 pool first?
Thats the way i like my zerg.
Buy my shirts up-at the handsome nerd
Terrans op, fuck what ya heard
These matchups got me so disturbed
Allow me to just speak on my concerns
I-know-that-in-order-to-win-i-must-have-an-advantage-in-micro-and-cash-flow
So-i-laugh-at-a-player-who-think-that-1a-is-a-skill-and-1-base-equals-macro
Im-reppin-the-toss-but-im-down-with-the-swarm-and-im-tearin-down-buildings-that-terran's-in
Harrassin-the-people-embarrassin-em-until-nancy-and-sarah-don't-care-again
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i see how kage got his post count
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
considering this is supose to be a rage theat you started that shit you posted should be in a different topic...
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
considering this is supose to be a rage theat you started that shit you posted should be in a different topic...
/facepalm
That one went way over your head didnt it?
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
considering this is supose to be a rage theat you started that shit you posted should be in a different topic...
Listen to the songs or read the lyrics :P
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
considering this is supose to be a rage theat you started that shit you posted should be in a different topic...
/facepalm
That one went way over your head didnt it?
YEAH TOTALY MAN IT SO WENT OVER MY HEAD
that aint rage you manchild
Listen to the songs or read the lyrics :P
id rather not listen to shit or read the lyrics of said shit
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would u rather i did one insanley massive long post -.-
considering this is supose to be a rage theat you started that shit you posted should be in a different topic...
Listen to the songs or read the lyrics :P
id rather not listen to shit or read the lyrics of said shit
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5433/retardedash.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/retardedash.jpg/)
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What the fuck did I do so massively wrong I deserved to lose this. Faggot didn't even have a pylon at the rocks FFFFFFFFFFFFF.
(I didn't watch it myself I'm just mad)
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Well, i generally baneling bust protoss players i play on that map as taking second expo (after natural) is... hard and due to narrow ramps in middle is hard to have any control over map, not to mention that defending vs 4 gate is nigtmare there due to spine crawlers being almost useless. Things i would do different is - a) you made early extractor but didnt put drones on it. The moment you defend his push just stop making any units - drone the fuck up while you have time and he is recovering. Chance he would attack again after losing all his army is really small. Unit composition wasnt bad, its just... he had way more (he had 45 probes when you had like 25 if i remember right, that allowed him to pump all that stuff). I would go upgraded roaches + corruptors vs Collosi play, but like i told unit composition wasnt bad, its just he had more stuff then you.
EDIT: Also you didnt really raged in chat in that game! Post in proper section next time!
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(http://www.abload.de/img/dsfwe5x8a.jpg)
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We don't even have a general thread for random sc2 shit, can you believe that? So I'll just put this here instead.
Just found it pretty crazy that despite being zerg and terran the graph was so identical - we traded almost evenly over so many fights, the chances of this happening must be fairly low?
(http://i.imgur.com/CNbZM.jpg)
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zergop