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Iron Edge => Other Games => General discussion (public) => Topic started by: Grishnag on April 11, 2008, 07:10:34 pm
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so yeah relic entertainment announced dawn of war 2 a couple of weeks ago and i started browsing around the intrawebs for some massive win screen shots
anyway here is some info about DoW2
- Uses the Essence 2.0 engine with Havok physics, all optimized for DX10 and multicore support.
- Units also use CoH-like unit AI for awareness and pathfinding to find cover and such.
- While DoW 2 shares the same (upgraded probably) engine as CoH it won’t be “CoH in space”, while soldiers in CoH will ask themselves if flanking the enemy is the right option, in DoW2 it will be more like Space Marines asking themselves if they should use their jetpacks to jump over an Ork squad to attack them in the back. Different settings, different kinds of warfare.
- Preview only showed a destroyed city landscape, akin to DoW (but more detailed), other tilesets will offer deserts, jungles, mountains and other cities.
- Only the Orkz and Space Marines were revealed, more races on the way obviously and to be to revealed later this year (though how many isn’t known).
- Co-op campaign for both the Orkz and Space Marines, apparently not for the other to-be-revealed races.
- Relic wants to give players rewards at the end of a mission like wargear (armor, weapons, rare objects); “Let’s pimp out squads with cool stuff!”, you will see these items in-game as well of course.
- You’ll fight your way through the campaign with the same squads.
- A squad leader (one or several?) will need to survive if you want to complete a mission; you really have to look out for your squads and don’t treat them like cannon fodder.
- The campaign lets Space Marines operate from a spaceship, you’ll get a view of an underlying planet and you’ll be able to choose from different missions (which are tagged with difficulty colors, green, blue and red).
- Certain reward items won’t be usable at once in the campaign, so they’ll be taken back to the SM spaceship for research.
- Release in early 2009 or later.
-Buildings can be occupied (like in coh)
-Environment completely destructable ^^
-Vehicles are bigger (there were only a couple of dreadnought shots)
-LOTS of blood (i saw the screens and thought LOL)
-Over the top finishing animations
-when units are in melee, pieces of battle armor can be chopped off in the action
official site http://www.dawnofwar2.com/us/home (http://www.dawnofwar2.com/us/home)
and time to post some screens i guess
(http://thq.vo.llnwd.net/o10/marketing/dawnofwar/screenshots/enlarged_view/Assault_Battle.jpg?height=600&width=800)
(http://thq.vo.llnwd.net/o10/marketing/dawnofwar/screenshots/enlarged_view/Assault_jump.jpg?height=600&width=800)
(http://thq.vo.llnwd.net/o10/marketing/dawnofwar/screenshots/enlarged_view/Orbital.jpg?height=600&width=800)
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Nice! That looks quite amazing tbh.
Next up, MMORPG Warhammer 40k!
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http://www.thq-games.com/uk/thqtv/index/1687 (http://www.thq-games.com/uk/thqtv/index/1687)
awesome awesome trailer thingy.... its just so good
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Well, it's some nice CGI for sure :)
The in-game stuff looks hot too!
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also some new screens
(http://thqinc.cachefly.net/dow2/screenshots/enlarged_view/007_boss_boyz_01.jpg?height=600&width=800)
(http://thqinc.cachefly.net/dow2/screenshots/enlarged_view/001_warboss_assult_sync_01.jpg?height=600&width=800)
(http://thqinc.cachefly.net/dow2/screenshots/enlarged_view/003_ranged_01.jpg?height=600&width=800)
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Well, it's some nice CGI for sure :)
The in-game stuff looks hot too!
well apperently tyranids are coming... which made me happy in my pants
edit: oh and the fact that eldar are in that trailer kinda points out that my favorite race in the first game is in this one to
though i hope the chaos marines join in to and are given those awesome voices again... that would make me happy to
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Give. They should introduce gnomes in it aswell.
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Space gnomes?
I still have to figure out of DoW I runs on Mac, so hopefully DoW II does too! Looks really cool to say the least. Looking forward to it! Too many awesome games coming end of 2008 start of 2009, Diablo III, StarCraft II and now Dawn of War II. I IS HAPPY IN MA PANTS!
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Second time I heard 'early 2009' for Diablo III.
http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/faq/#3_1
Do you have a source that says otherwise?
The game is noooo where near completion at the mo... like mega-early Alpha.
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Inphyy fails.
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36030.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36030.html)
ingame footage
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http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14243516/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii/videos/dow2_meet_the_tyranids_082008.html (http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14243516/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii/videos/dow2_meet_the_tyranids_082008.html)
FUCK YEAH TYRANIDS
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Finally!
There was a servay on the THQ website like 6 months before they brought out Soulstorm, ask which new race they should introduce Tyranids, dark elder, or witchhunters. Was really dissapointed when it was the last two in the expansion.
Looking amazing in the trailer.
WTB
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iirc relic did say that they didnt feel the DoW engine would justify the tyranids
but im happy the tyranids are here finaly.... now i just hope the chaos and tau show up and all will be well
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NIDS?!
MRHGRHRGHG :D
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Just need one more race now. THE GNOMES!
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SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK
GIVE ME MY SPACE MARINES
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ah man the chaos char in DoW 1 had so many awesome lines
also lose the caps lotinja please
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NEVAH!
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56812 (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56812)
DoW2 went gold
soon i shall slaughter everyone with my tyranid army MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Meeeh..
Can't afford it, need to buy a new car.
Saving money sucks!
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fyi anyone that bought soulstorm should activate it on steam that way you can play the beta which is on steam now
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ah yes, played sum games today, game looks absoulutely terrific, and the mechanics are really nice. Altho i totally suck at it atm!
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fucking love it... we should play against eachother sometime
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gfw account: Chippsen
just add me!
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will do will do
mine is Sejani btw since Grishnag was taken :(
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CHAOS CONSUME US !!!! :P
Absolutly one of the best rts games :)
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no chaos marines in this game sadly but tyranids are here they are just as good or even better :)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GIVE CHAOS MARINES DAMN IT
SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!
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I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING MEEEE, IT IS A GOOD PAIN!
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Wait, I know this one...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH?
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Getting it atm
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best be joking nigger!
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Downloading the beta!
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best be joking nigger!
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Do i look like jesting?
*serius face*
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yes...
well i wanna kick your ass again like i did in CoH :)
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You where lucky!
Bastard!
Damn tiger tanks!
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Had a go at it last night with Crazy/Malik/Douche.
Played Tyranids, enjoyed the lack of base building (something I enjoyed in RA1, but never since. Even then it got tired fairly fast). Though there seems to be some horrendous balance issues as well. The Eldar Avatar of Khaine in particular seems to have been implemented without a moment's thought about balance.
Still, the way it plays feels nice enough, and given some balancing work it could be alright.
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Still, the way it plays feels nice enough, and given some balancing work it could be alright.
it HAZ BOOMKINS yessss?
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Had a go at it last night with Crazy/Malik/Douche.
Played Tyranids, enjoyed the lack of base building (something I enjoyed in RA1, but never since. Even then it got tired fairly fast). Though there seems to be some horrendous balance issues as well. The Eldar Avatar of Khaine in particular seems to have been implemented without a moment's thought about balance.
Still, the way it plays feels nice enough, and given some balancing work it could be alright.
they implemented eldar without thinking tbh
warpspiders absolutley rape EVERYTHING
wraith lords rape everything aswell hell it can 1shot a predator tank without much effort (ask lotinja *giggles*)
then again instant suppresion heavybolters and shuriken cannons are wank to
oh and yes i know tyranids have a instant supression weapon but unlike the other 2 it fires 1 shot instead of raping the squad it suppresses i had my hormagaunts get insta-supressed but 1 shot and then raped by the other shots a heavybolter does
then again hormagaunts look so happy when they are in range of warriors with adrenal glands
oh oh if we have like 6 IE people we could do some 3v3 at some point if people are interested
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I have this now aswell.
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seems like the 'authentication servers' they use are about one hundred times flakier than battlenet. Lots of people dropping intermittantly or frequently and still no way to rejoin a game in progress (even though the ai takes over dropped players).
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well today steam was fucking up quite abit
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Been playing it aswell.
And yes, the Avatar of Khane is OP. But if you can get a Terminator squad up with missiles, it's pretty doable. Also the Spacemarine commander with Terminator armor is quite heavy aswell.
This game still needs tons of balances, but so far I love it. The game doesn't take long, which is what I enjoy. You just roam around with your characters, instead of having to build a base.
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Eldar's need a nerf
Predators are supposed to be the Marines heaviest unit... Getting one shot... Hnnng
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Stop abusing apostrophe's, you are not even applying any rule's, just dotting them around some word's with s at the end and leaving them off some other's with no logic.
Is it replacing a letter (It's as in It is)? Is it signifying possession (Lotinja's post)?
Also, Eldar is plural on its own ("its" is a special case for possession and the apostrophe - mainly because it is always possible to tell by context. It's possible I threw in that sentence just for this demonstration).
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<insert grammar nazi pic D:>
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I even blogged about this last night!!
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Stop abusing apostrophe's, you are not even applying any rule's, just dotting them around some word's with s at the end and leaving them off some other's with no logic.
Is it replacing a letter (It's as in It is)? Is it signifying possession (Lotinja's post)?
Also, Eldar is plural on its own ("its" is a special case for possession and the apostrophe - mainly because it is always possible to tell by context. It's possible I threw in that sentence just for this demonstration).
Quite sad to grammar police a non english native...
Get a grip, you tard.
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You're no fun at all.
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/14ch346.jpg)
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Finished the single player campaign over the weekend (only Space Marines available, doh!).
The often-heard "diablo with squads" fits it quite well IMO. Not enough RTS for my taste, I prefer base building stuff. You pretty much just hop from support point to support point (where you can replenish your squads for free) the entire game. 80% of the campaign maps feel like random skirmishes, either "kill the boss in the top corner" or "defend this building".
It's still fun with a big "just one more level" factor thou, thanks to gearing up your squad, the presentation and 40k feeling. And hell, did Blizzard steal all their Starcraft stuff from Warhammer 40k...
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If you enjoy base building, dow2 will let you down on that front.
But tbh base building in RTS games always seemed to essentially amount to a fixed process of buildings that to me kind of got in the way of actually playing the game. The part I enjoy about basebuilding was to build a cool base, but that was never really going to work if you wanted to actually win a game.
Overall I'm pretty glad there's finally a little bit of a slimmed down refined rts available in the form of dow2. 'Old-school' RTS is still well catered for (for now) with C&CRA3 as far as I understand.
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It pretty much craps down on the concept or RTS, the point of it is watching multiple bases, oraganising simultanious assaults, managing resources optimally to win, making choices and sacrifices, and micro :P
dow2 brings it down to 'just' micro - and there is very little of it since you cant move anything less then a squad, and you have only 4.
From a "can i be pro at this game" aspect, this is pretty much crap, only cool to play the champaign and listen to the nicely done narration tbh.
2/5
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It pretty much craps down on the concept or RTS, the point of it is watching multiple bases, oraganising simultanious assaults, managing resources optimally to win, making choices and sacrifices, and micro :P
dow2 brings it down to 'just' micro - and there is very little of it since you cant move anything less then a squad, and you have only 4.
From a "can i be pro at this game" aspect, this is pretty much crap, only cool to play the champaign and listen to the nicely done narration tbh.
2/5
You are very obviously talking only about the single player, no such squad cap exists on multiplayer. To have talked about the, "can I be a pro at this game" and only mention the singleplayer seems very silly. SP and MP in this are nearly two totally different games.
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It pretty much craps down on the concept or RTS, the point of it is watching multiple bases, oraganising simultanious assaults, managing resources optimally to win, making choices and sacrifices, and micro :P
dow2 brings it down to 'just' micro - and there is very little of it since you cant move anything less then a squad, and you have only 4.
From a "can i be pro at this game" aspect, this is pretty much crap, only cool to play the champaign and listen to the nicely done narration tbh.
2/5
only single player experience huzzah!!
go play multiplayer then form your opinion
also kawe there is a cap of 100 units
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yeah, but it's large enough and games duration are such that you rarely run into that in any meaningful way
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Wanted to refresh this thread.
They've recently re-worked the tier 1 units, now making them as powerful as Tier 3, and changing the general tactic of the entire game.
And, I wanted to remind people as to why Chaos should be the next race.
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