Iron Edge
Iron Edge => Other Games => General discussion (public) => Topic started by: Kergash on June 17, 2008, 05:50:46 pm
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Yes, the time has arrived to discuss this game. : P
I've played it very little, so I can't say much for it myself, other than I find it alittle fun, though not as fun as WoW really. Tried a conqueror and an assassin so far, as I like the melee system they have made.
What's your opinions? Good/Bad? Why/Why not? etc!
/discuss
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Heretic. Burn him.
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Potential.
I've got a lvl 49 demonologist on Ymir and a lvl 60 herald of xotli on soulstorm and this is my impression so far: They've released a game that's fine if u don't level past 30. Most of the leveling past 50 is all farming repeatable quests. The interface is horrible. The guild stuff (wars, towns, etc) are not implemented properly or at all. There are quests with ridiculously low drop rates (must be 0.1%) that you have to do if you want to level up resource gathering skills. There are more bugs than players. The customer support is beyond shit. The spawning of mobs is absolutely awful. If I could name the worst aspect of the game, it would be the way the world is spawned. Every mob in the game respawns too slowly. Quest mobs seem to have extra slow spawn rates.
That said, the game isn't all too bad. The combat is pretty funky, the graphics are nice and such. It needs a hell of a lot of work to make it a good game, though.
There is one awesome thing, though. The chat server for the game is different from the game server and allows 2 logins with the same credentials (with 2 different chars) and this has been reverse engineered by players so you can connect to the game's chat server without logging in to the game server. Guild I'm in on there has a channel on irc that relays chat in and out of guild chat. Very awesome. It does kind of aid gold spammers, though.
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to me it just feels like they released the game to soon
mainly what deak said to many bugs
though the combat system is quite good no auto shot/attack and stuff
besides that they do have some rather funky classes like a melee healer (as in he does melee damage and heals not healing the melee) and a melee caster which both are quite cool
but i must say up to lvl 20 ish (i play a bear shaman) bear shamans are realy realy realy squishy and they are supose to be the toughest priest class they arent cause there lack of a good healthpool/ranged attacks like the priestess of mitra and tempest of set have (they have ranged attack cant realy comment on the health pool since i havent played one yet)
but besides that WE GOT TITS
(http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8594/helenpicture004ji2.png)
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omg nudity
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To be honest with you, it needed another good few months of development. Visually its beautiful, the combat is really fun and the first 20 levels are really involving, and really good! After that, the leveling consistently goes down hill, there is a VAST amount of bugs, i don't like the way that the whole game is instanced because it detracts from the PvP aspects of it, that drew me to it in the first place. It could have been a good game, but at the moment its just broken, and it does make you think, what the fuck was the beta feedback like for them to have left it like that? Was the beta entirely populated by morons? Or is the dev team just a bit lazy? It just annoys me that they release a game so clearly broken like that.
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To ne honest with you, it needed another good few months of development. Visually its beautiful, the combat is really fun and the first 20 levels are really involving, and really good! After that, the leveling consistently goes down hill, there is a VAST amount of bugs, i don't like the way that the whole game is instanced because it detracts from the PvP aspects of it, that drew me to it in the first place. It could have been a good game, but at the moment its just broken, and it does make you think, what the fuck was the beta feedback like for them to have left it like that? Was the beta entirely populated by morons? Or is the dev team just a bit lazy? It just annoys me that they release a game so clearly broken like that.
i agree fully with you especialy on the whole quest part
i LOVED the whole thing all the quest guys talking to you actual spoken words not some scribbled down i was hoping that once you left tortage it would be the same... i was dissappointed to say the least
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well, voice overs for every single quest in an mmo would be an impossible undertaking, at least for something to be released with it. The fact the camera zooms to over shoulder to look at the quest givers does at least help a little though, was the same in several mmos, and personally I like to see that. Helps you feel your character is actually interacting with someone, rather than just collecting quests as a commodity from a faceless quest dispenser.
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looks boring and doesnt interest me at all. Seems the only people that make an effort to play are "the locals" as it incorperates their own history. Seems they added some tits and ass to give it an "adult game" attraction which to me serves the complete opposite.
To summarise goza hit the nail on the head and i quote!
"Heretic. Burn him"
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Can't even run it on my frankenpc, so I wont be playing it at all, I reckon. (Which is a shame as it was a gift from my brother, but oh well)
Anyway - I like the look, but I'm pretty happy with wow and I already have too little time to spend gaming :D
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looks boring and doesnt interest me at all. Seems the only people that make an effort to play are "the locals" as it incorperates their own history. Seems they added some tits and ass to give it an "adult game" attraction which to me serves the complete opposite.
To summarise goza hit the nail on the head and i quote!
"Heretic. Burn him"
"I think that thou doust protest too much".
Don't worry, I don't think there's any chance of a mass-exodus from wow :')
Also I don't understand who the locals are meant to be?
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TITS!
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obviously the locals are Arnold Schwarzenegger.... yes, he does in fact count as several people.
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and norwegian since its a norwegian product... or something
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I've watched this game being played at Sint's, and my impression so far is a bit mixed. The graphics are somewhat good, however, when trying to be realistic, the developers have entered the "eerie valley" of animations, meaning that when stuff tries to look realistic you start comparing it to real life, and then it fails and just looks a bit.. wrong?
As with all games that have impressive graphics, sure it's nice and stuff, but it only matters for the first half hour of playtime, and then it's only the content that counts. So far Sint hasn't shown me any quests or PvE encounters, and only shortly explained how guild cities and city sieges work. So as far as content goes, I haven't seen any yet.
As far as he's explained though, there's hardly any proper PvE content endgame, supposedly it's just all about the PvP, which sort of puts me off entirely as I'm not a player that enjoys PvP at all.
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There's already 3 tiers of endgame raid instance. What the level of difficulty and complexity of these are, though, I have no idea.
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It isn't an item based game, so you will likely run them once for the experience and then stick to pvp.
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If I can double my stamina, health, mana and all their respective regens, increasing my hiding so I can't be seen, increasing my defenses and immunities so I can't be damaged, and double my damage, or, in the case that it is for some classes atm, determining whether you can survive that first attack or not, all by having nice items, that makes a huge difference.
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Only at present, you can't get that.
The items don't seem to have more of a stat than anything non epic, they just have more of each stat.
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5568/bootsofthecloudcleaverkw6.jpg
For example.
The game was designed specifically to not be item dependant at late game.
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I'm pretty shocked you played like two characters, one nearly 50 and another over 60, and didn't know about the stat capping Daekesh :x
Stats are capped at each level - often I'll look at my stats screen and see something like - for example - "defense 70 (71)" which is to say it's letting me know that it's capped at 71 until I level up.
+hiding does nothing in pvp at all past the basic few points that allow you to hide in light areas.
In fact, a lot of those things do absolutely nothing :') Including the run speed one, the skulking one, and pereption.
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Perception allows u to see hidden players, doesn't it? Hiding seemed to be a major part of pvp, from what I saw. Hiding means u can hide more effectively, without being seen by people with perception?
I've got mostly blue items which are good for my class, though most of them are 10 levels below my level now. Lots of stamina, health, str, etc. I have over doubled my stamina just though stats on these items. The only stat I've got near the cap is attack rating. Compared to the green items which I've seen drop, mine are far superior.
Also, if you take 1 green item with 2-3 stats on it and compare it to a purple item with 10 or so, you may think that just because it doesn't have higher numerical stats, that the purple item isn't that much better. But, if you add all the items together, purple items will destroy green ones.
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Perception increases your chance to see hidden players when you use search, which is on a cooldown and doesnt last that long. It is not passive.
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A great quote from some aoc thread about perception was something like "unless when you put the final point into it at level 80 it gives you a guide dog, perception seems a bit useless".
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So perception is a bit useless. Doesn't make the rest of what I said untrue.
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Just fyi, you can get 100% immunity to damage with the crafted gear current in game. And that's with a crafting system that's pretty shit, with few useful items.
Not item-based, you say?
Edit: And this is with crafted blue (rare), not epic, items I believe.
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Just fyi, you can get 100% immunity to damage with the crafted gear current in game. And that's with a crafting system that's pretty shit, with few useful items.
Not item-based, you say?
Edit: And this is with crafted blue (rare), not epic, items I believe.
Mmmm, gotta love a game, based around PvP, where you can become immune to damage. Balance much? :P
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Sounds like you're working on theory, and given the number of posts about "omg invincible players wtf" that aren't present on aoc forums combined with that fact that they do have an awful lot of whine posts and bug reports about everything wrong under the sun else with the game, I'm guessing you can't actually get passive damage immunity.
Anyway, I thought you stopped playing? Or have you fallen prey to the usual pattern we used to see a lot on dm.org forums where people hung around for ages finding problems with something you're not involved in any more? :D
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Well, it's not theory, there are posts on the pvp forum about getting evade chance upto 55% with crafted gear/gems and then u double tap back and u go over 100%. You can double tap back ad infinitum, making you immune to all melee attacks. You can get magic immunity upto 55% aswell, over 70% with the talents from some classes. I exagerated a bit, but still... reminds me of paladin with 99% immunity (from d2, was it?)
The reason you aren't seeing a lot of posts about it is because it's very hard to do in the early economy. The resources required aren't so available with everyone still leveling professions and leveling up. The server I'm on you'd be looking at well over 300g for all the resources needed... if you can find them on the ah.
As for not playing? Currently, no, but only because I can't get a time card. Game just stuck one in the post, though. I did decide not to buy one, but guild convinced me to stay by giving me lots of calloused leather :)
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atleast you have the option of playing, i on the other hand am pretty much stuck with my ps3 until my new motherboard gets delivered
ah well got battlefield bad company atleast
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get mgs4, grish. though only if you've played the other 3 games.
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which i haven't
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In that case... get the other three games :)
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just because you like it doesnt mean i will