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Iron Edge => General Discussion => Topic started by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 10:40:40 am

Title: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 10:40:40 am: This has already been announced by Blues in the past, but now there is some more detailed information about how class (de)buffs will work in raids.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=14214.0

Bloodlust raidwise but only cast-/receiveable every 5 minutes. Shadow priest mana battery raidwide and automatically goes to 10 raid members with the lowest mana, and hunters and paladins get similar abilities. Etc.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: delling on August 29, 2008, 03:24:07 pm: Ya... some very interesting changes indeed.

Especially the new Replenishment shit...

But hey, means we won't have to have gimp shadow DPS in our raids any more!!
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 03:33:39 pm: Mages and Druids will be useless.

Basically, there is no reason at all to bring a resto druid, since tree of life is useless anyway. Their healing is shit and surpassed by any other class, even enhancement shamans. Paladin will bring the healing aura, so if you are a resto druid you might as well stop playing the game.

Same goes for mages. Prepare to buy your own food/water before you enter the instance, because locks with the new fel intelligence will make mages completely obsolete. Since warlocks do twice the damage and are lightyears ahead when it comes to survivability.

I'd probably just kill myself if I was a mage or a druid.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Vorte on August 29, 2008, 03:50:41 pm: That's just..evil! :(
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Inphy on August 29, 2008, 03:51:33 pm: Cyclone, indoor Roots, buffs.

Sheep, water.

Says enough palmar! :) And frost mages will win tbh. Or get an arcane mage to arcane power a warlock for EXTRA LIGHTYEAR DPS!
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 03:56:17 pm: Hmmmmmm.... pet mage for every warlock, now you got me sold.

Can we name them, too?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 03:57:07 pm: I don't agree.

Cyclone remains useless in any form of pve, it's about as good as offtanking stuff. Roots are horrible and break on their own damage. How often do we have mages frost nova to cc in current raids? Not often.

The tiny amount of stats added by MotW will not grant druids raid spots. At best they can sit outside and buff the raid.

Sheeps are useless now, retribution paladins can perma-repentance mobs. and it's instant cast. and they actually do bring some good utility, unlike the shitty mages.

And as I said, people are gonna have to buy their own water. Unless we bring a mage to sit outside and make the water...
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Inphy on August 29, 2008, 03:58:52 pm: Fine by me. You do have to keep them on a leash though! We don't want any mages running around freely.

And I don't think mages will be that useless. As we haven't seen wotlk yet, perhaps mages will surpass Warlocks in damage?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 03:59:30 pm: Nope, warlocks will do about 40% more damage than mages.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 04:01:13 pm: Hmm, isn't arcane power self-cast only? Silly selfish mages.

Also, demote Inphy for spreading false info.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Vorte on August 29, 2008, 04:03:10 pm: I am on the account management considering to namechange my mage to "Gozaspet".
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 04:04:42 pm: don't be silly, you don't have any money.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 04:10:46 pm: No real warlock would allow his pet to partially share his name.

Change it to something appropriate like "Spayed".
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Myogoblin on August 29, 2008, 04:26:44 pm: delete warlocks and rogues and everybody is happy :D
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 04:29:01 pm: Why? Warlocks and rogues are useful, not like your shitty class.

Reroll to your lock, and you will get spots in 5 mans etc.

Stick with your druid if you wanna play solo. Not that they're good soloers, it's just guaranteed that noone will ever invite a druid to anything.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 04:34:49 pm: (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4496/lulzdruidbe3.jpg)
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Ino on August 29, 2008, 04:43:22 pm: Improved Water Elemental. Totally useless.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Daekesh on August 29, 2008, 04:48:08 pm: As I've said all along, the problem is wanting to bring only one mage to a raid. Why you would need to bring more than one mage, or why you should bring a mage over another class, is the problem. We had it there for a few minutes, with the focus magic buff. Now that's been nerfed.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 04:53:59 pm: Well, I think even one is overkill.

It's just such a useless class...
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 05:00:40 pm: Slow < Mind-numbing Poison < Curse of Tongues

Arcane Intellect < Fel Intelligence

Focus Magic < Improved Divine Spirit < Flametongue Totem < Totem of Wrath < Demonic Pact

Improved Scorch, Winter's Chill = silly magic schools olol

'nuff said.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 05:10:23 pm: Goza pretty much sums it up
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 05:12:40 pm: Thanks Palmar. Cookie?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 05:16:38 pm: (http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Cookie_Monster.jpg)
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 05:20:34 pm: Fruit = nature's cookies, Palmar.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
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Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
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Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 05:28:06 pm: (http://www.swg1.net/encyclo/images/han31.jpg)

I ate the cookies...
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
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Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
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Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
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Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 05:51:10 pm: (http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/29/youshouldnoth128644954373652141.jpg)
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Goza on August 29, 2008, 06:01:41 pm: (http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1267/stupittjoddaan5.jpg)

Have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Palmar on August 29, 2008, 06:02:39 pm: waves
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Hugman on August 29, 2008, 07:21:40 pm: Bravo!

Goza loves lolcats.
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Blaine on August 29, 2008, 11:22:50 pm: :)
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Kergash on August 30, 2008, 12:05:00 am: Quite the amusing thread!
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Marko on August 30, 2008, 12:33:26 am: Quote from: delling on August 29, 2008, 03:24:07 pm
Ya... some very interesting changes indeed.

Especially the new Replenishment shit...

But hey, means we won't have to have gimp shadow DPS in our raids any more!!

Are you trying to tell me that I can healzz??!?!?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Shannaro on August 30, 2008, 02:39:37 am: ;( you all make me cry....im gonna cut myself right now..
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: starshadow on August 30, 2008, 03:11:55 am: Quote from: Shannaro on August 30, 2008, 02:39:37 am
;( you all make me cry....im gonna cut myself right now..
can i have your stuff?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Shannaro on August 30, 2008, 12:31:27 pm: sure what do you want?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: delling on August 30, 2008, 02:11:42 pm: Can I have Cassey?
Title: Re: WotL raid buff changes
Post by: Grilldyret on August 30, 2008, 03:37:08 pm: Is that his dog?