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Iron Edge => Off Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Devlin on November 04, 2008, 12:08:51 am

Title: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 04, 2008, 12:08:51 am
Im currently in the process of puchasing a laptop ... or atleast trying to find a good alternative.

My price range is somewhere around 4000SEK (about 400 euro), so Im not looking for any monster-laptop. It will be used mainly for studying and occasionally watching movies on, photoshopping etc. I dont plan on gaming on it.

One I got my eyes on is Acer Aspire 5520G which is currently offered at a nice discount, 450 euro instead of its normal price which is more around 600 euro.

(https://www.inet.se/bilder/1967931/acer-aspire-5520g--max-1st---kund.jpg)
Specs
Screen: 15.4" CrystalBrite
CPU: AMD Turion X2 TL-60, 2.0Ghz
RAM: 4GB, 2x2048MB, DDR2 667Mhz
HDD: 160GB SATA 5400rpm
GFX: nVidia GeForce 8400M G 128MB
CD/DVD: DVD±RW (+R Dual Layer)

Modem: 56k v.92 Modem
Networks card: 10/100/1000Mbit
WLAN: WLAN 802.11b/g, 54Mbit

Webcam: 0.3 Megapixel
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium
Measurements: 366 x 43 x 274mm
Weight: 2.75kg

Acer Aspire 5520 Series information
http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as5520.htm

This is indeed looking good for the price, but I wonder if theres anyone out there with first-hand experience with this brand and model? If so, what are your thoughts about it?
Secondly I wonder if theres any specific laptop that You could recommend, which is within the same pricerange (~400euro).

Any help is appreciated!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: delling on November 04, 2008, 02:51:39 am
Sounds good.

It's an Acer -- cheap brand. You will still get decent support I guess.

It's pretty big -- 2.75kg. You don't want to be transporting that around a lot, unless you have strong shoulders...

Not sure of the processor/graphics capabilities. I would never do Photoshop stuffs on a laptop, but I think it will be OK...

Sounds like a great spec for the price. The main trade-off being weight.

Wise man once said 'Power, portability, price. Pick two.'

For 450 euros you can't really go wrong though...
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Inphy on November 04, 2008, 07:36:47 am
It's a great laptop. The service of Acer is pretty good.

The negative side is that it'll take about 3 hours to remove all the crap acer put on it. That's about 20gyg of programms and useless utilities.

Furthermore they're pretty good laptops.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Myogoblin on November 04, 2008, 10:18:05 am
looks good and should be fine for photoshopping and the like, Mine was pretty poor with 2gb in but now I've added 4gb it helped MASSIVE. the recovery disk wont be a problem, just strip the i386 folder off and look up slipstreaming vlite should do it, not tried it but nlite was really awesome for XP disks, id say if you could get a slightly better vid card you got yoursself a monster already :)
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Auran on November 04, 2008, 12:42:42 pm

Wise man once said 'Power, portability, price. Pick two.'


Obama?
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: kawe on November 04, 2008, 01:27:27 pm
Looks just great for the price, and should be more than enough for your uses. Bit of a brick, aye, but a good deal, and looks sturdy too!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: kagir on November 04, 2008, 02:50:35 pm
Whatever you do, stay away from Lenovo.. no offense but it's Chinese crap. I've been through 5 computers now with hardware errors.

Lenovo ThinkPad != IBM ThinkPad quality wise.. however they are just as ugly!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 04, 2008, 11:32:02 pm
the motherfucking offer on the acer has expired. i was gonna order it today after school ... but i was in school for 15 hours :(
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: delling on November 04, 2008, 11:33:30 pm
It is unlike Dell to be beaten on price... did you check them?
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 04, 2008, 11:35:29 pm
looking at this one atm, 400 euro. Nowhere near the Acer though :(


HP 550 - Celeron M 530 1.73 GHz - 15.4" TFT

Dimensions: 35.8 cm x 26.7 cm x 3.2 cm
Weight:   2.5 kg

Processor: Intel Celeron M 530 / 1.73 GHz
RAM: 1 GB (installed) / 4 GB (max) - DDR2 SDRAM - 667 MHz ( 1 x 1 GB )
HDD: 120 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 5400 rpm

CD/DVD: DVD±RW (+R dubbla lager) / DVD-RAM med LightScribe Technology
Display: 15.4" TFT 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - BrightView
Grafics: Intel GMA X3100


Network: Nätverkskort - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g
wireless NIC, Broadcom 4311BG

Batterytime: up to 4.5h
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 04, 2008, 11:42:19 pm
dell got a total of 0 laptops below 500 euro...

fucking dell .... see what i did there!

i might end up with a fucking eee 900 or something :/
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: kawe on November 05, 2008, 09:08:00 am
Get the Acer already!

And anyway, Dell's pricing is, part for part on customisation options, roughly equal to alienware's. Dell are great if you want some super cheap pc tower + screen etc etc, but otherwise not that impressive last time I looked.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Gerdi on November 05, 2008, 09:28:17 am
I just bought this laptop:
Hp Pavilion DV5 - 1037 (Atleast that is what is it called here in Denmark :P )

(http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8827/brbarmc5.th.jpg) (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brbarmc5.jpg)(http://img370.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Bought it for around 700 euro, wich I think is quite cheap compaired to the spec's of the computer.

I worked in a computerstore not long time ago. And like Delling said Acer is cheap brand... I saw just as many Acer's getting returned as I sold, and that is the thing with Acer, either you are just lucky getting a product wich will be stable for the rest of the time you have it, or you will get a computer wich will braek after a year, and then just continue down a long road of software errors and system breakdown.

Acer's components are awsome individual, although I would probably repalce most of them, but the way they put those parts togeather is just not wroking propperly, atleast due to my expirience.

PacketBell made a few good computers, but nothing I would go for, Asus are really awsome, but also very expensive, HP is generally family computer togeather with DELL, Toshiba is what I have expirienced ok if you put a lot of money into it, but those cheap ones you dont wana buy and the service support aint that good.

If you buy cheap ass laptops, and a Vista system with a laptop with 1-2gb ram, you are gonna eventually regret it and shoot your self for not putting in another 200 for a much better computer.

EDIT: PS. I know vista 32-bit dont support 4gb-ram, but what the hell.. they gotta change that in some update oneday.. and I installed windows XP for the full advance of the computer insetad :P XP > VISTA !!!!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Inphy on November 05, 2008, 09:41:13 am
Perhaps: http://www.bcc.nl/shop/Notebooks_en_laptops.Computer/product/productinfo/YDfAqA1wF6kAAAEbbewIUJG0 devlin?

Dutch store, i know. But still a fine laptop, for 499.


And gerdi... goodluck with that. We had about 10 of those returned to the store in the past 2 months, because they all had problems. So we asked the other stores in the country, and they all had the same problems. So don't hesitate to return it once you notice a small problem.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Gerdi on November 05, 2008, 10:39:08 am
Ill remember that Inphy, guess that is what you get from buying brand new products that never been released before.. (atleast not in Denmark), and tryed to look on the internet for the computer, but could not find it at all.. Better start backing up my files then.. -.- 3 years warenty though, so can always get a new computer, since the insurance cover all errors exept if its stolen.
Usually HP had some good products, so still think they madea few good computers, The design though is a bit like DELL, and those touch buttons (volume-mute, ect.) work like hell.. So if it wasent for the price, and its spec, I probably would have spend more time finding another one :P

Any of you guys tryed Asus ? Seems to be awsome laptop's but I only heard bad things about em, but guess what you only hear is complains, since none post "Damn this computer is amazing!" in review's.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2008, 12:07:29 pm
im really considering buying an asus eee pc1000h. its extremely portable, got 6 cell battery for long usage, and is in the right price range. as mentioned earlier, i will not use this laptop to game on, it will be mostly just writing in word for school, and surfing.

only question is, is 10" too small? the keyboard is apparently about 95% of a generic keyboard, so typing on it will be easy.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Inphy on November 05, 2008, 12:35:11 pm
Well, if you want to use a netbook (small laptop) then I'd recommend you don't use one with Xp. They're just damn slow, and not made for it. Try one with linux, they're awefully fast, and can still do the stuff you need them for.

Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Palmar on November 05, 2008, 12:52:52 pm
The asus eee is running on a linux afaik?

Anyway, I have an asus laptop.

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2886

It's two years old, but it's excellent for gaming/multimedia. As far as I know they kept making newer versions of these laptops, so if you want to have the option to game on it, then I'd recommend checking asus out.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2008, 12:57:07 pm
asus 1000h run winxp, on an intel atom 1.6ghz cpu and a 160gb hdd, with up to 2gb ram.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Palmar on November 05, 2008, 12:58:23 pm
I just checked, you can get both setups!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Gerdi on November 05, 2008, 01:03:33 pm
Just delete the xp system and install Linux xD atleast I was told, once you get use to Linux you will be raelly happy about it. Although if you buy it you should be happy its not vista atleast :P But not sure how it will run on such a small laptop, guess Inphy know best. 10" screen I would say is raelly small.. on the other hand, for typing and writing the "zoom" function is discovered, so guess you can avoid the problem of horrible small text and reading, but I would never go below 15" my self, tryed a friends apple lite with its horrible 9" screen.. Handy yes.. really small.. yeah.. go to a store and try go to the internet or something on something close to 10" screen, guess that is really the only way to find out if it soothes you or not.

<3
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2008, 01:21:44 pm
Im looking at netbooks (again) since finding a decent 15" notebook seems daunting. Im currently looking at 3 different netbooks:

LG X110
Asus EEE pc1000H
MSI Wind

They all got virtually the same specs, 10" screens. The biggest difference is battery, where 1000H is the only one with 6 cell battery. They all cost around 400 euro, and come with 1gb ram and a 1.6ghz cpu and 160gb hdd.

Picture time!

LG X110 3990SEK (399 euro)
(http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/news-lg-x110.jpg)

Asus EEE pc1000H 3990SEK (399 euro)
(http://www.pinoytechblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/asus-eee-pc-1000h.jpg)

MSI Wind 4490SEK (449 euro)
(http://www.dabbledoo.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/msi_wind_black_425.jpg)

Personally I think the MSI Wind wins the design war.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2008, 01:30:29 pm
The real hazzle is, I can get a 15.4" notebook for the same price (HP 550, 389 euro (https://www.inet.se/datorer/baerbara/hp-550-1gb-vista-basic/1968266/))...

Aargh!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2008, 10:53:12 pm
the new "it" for me:
http://apcmag.com/scoop_we_review_the_inspiron_mini_12__dells_supersized_yet_superslim_12_inch_netbook.htm

will probably wait until closer to christmas to see what comes out. dell mini 12 will probably not reach sweden until 2009 :/
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: starshadow on November 05, 2008, 10:57:09 pm
True you can wait.. But the fun thing is about Computer hardware is when you buy it its old already. :)
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on February 03, 2010, 01:38:05 am
seems like ive been actively looking for a laptop for well over a year before deciding...

anyways, tnx god i love finally having one. now i can watch ... hockey, in the bathroom! i also dont need to use my 10m extention cable anymore to hear what you guys say on vent when i go to pee.

yes im a slow-tech dude.

asus ul30vt ftw (heres a quick review: http://www.expertlaptopreview.com/?p=386 mine's gray matte metallic though, less fingerprints!)

edit: btw, anyone know if its possible to completely reset sharing properties in windows 7? i seem to have messed it up on my stationary, i cant use certain programs cause they dont have access(?) to certain user files.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: delling on February 03, 2010, 05:07:18 am
As I was saying earlier on vent... what's the point in a laptop if you, like... never go anywhere.

I presume it's for taking notes at university or something?
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Devlin on February 03, 2010, 01:29:40 pm
ye its for writing reports in school, and i might be going for my masters degree so then itll be really handy having a laptop.

plus its a fun thing to have!
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Kilizion on February 03, 2010, 04:53:52 pm
That Asus looks like a really nice buy and that guy gave it an amazing review, might have to pick up a netbook for University at some point.
Title: Re: Laptop time! (Could use some advice)
Post by: Shiftey on February 05, 2010, 02:16:15 am
Go with the Asus Unlimited series, it's awesome :D light, long battery life, good enough performance

Asus winz