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Iron Edge => General Discussion => Topic started by: kagemoth on June 11, 2009, 03:55:22 am

Title: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on June 11, 2009, 03:55:22 am
"To craft it, you have to gather 30 Fragments of Val'anyr, which drop from both normal and hard-mode 25-man Ulduar fights (though they always drop on hard-mode, and only have a chance to drop on normal)." from wow.com ,hmm.. SO u CAN actually get it
from 10 man hardmodes? will look for more proof.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: delling on June 11, 2009, 03:57:33 am
Nah, seemingly same drop chance from hard mode too. Only 100% from Yogg-25, that's it (from what I can see).

Go check Wowhead drop percentages.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Daekesh on June 11, 2009, 04:09:29 am
Where does it say anything about 10-man hard modes, Kage?
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on June 11, 2009, 04:15:53 am
Where does it say anything about 10-man hard modes, Kage?

on wow.com there is a topic about the first Valanyr , just read that one. I read the
comments below it and i didnt see any wise asses saying "no u cant get it 10 man"
sooooooooooOOo I believe the internet. That being said i do think it is a rather silly
low drop rate in 10 man since we have been doing them a lot and still no drops.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Ino on June 11, 2009, 09:31:02 am
Ofcourse it doesn't drop from 10 man................

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=45038
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: delling on June 11, 2009, 01:18:57 pm
So it is slightly higher on hardmodes? Neato.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Marko on June 11, 2009, 02:53:01 pm
Kage you won't get it anyway. :)
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: delling on June 11, 2009, 02:57:52 pm
He has a lot more chance than you...
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Marko on June 11, 2009, 03:43:39 pm
There is like two kinds of ppl that gets legendaries.
GMs (officers, senators...) and people with extremely small penis, which are in fact epic whores. :)
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: delling on June 11, 2009, 03:49:21 pm
The list, last I looked, was me, Ino and Otori. It's nothing to do with rank really -- the Glaives went to Ale and then Devlin.

Thunderfury went on DKP, as did Sulfuras, I think.

Legendaries are assigned on merit.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Marko on June 11, 2009, 03:52:44 pm
The list is fine, I just woke up today in need to troll Kage since he played Rikimaru last night. ^^
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Cwave on June 11, 2009, 03:55:14 pm
The list is fine, I just woke up today in need to troll Kage since he played Rikimaru last night. ^^

3 out of 5 of us with a Gem

EAT THAT KAGEMOTH.....
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on June 11, 2009, 04:17:48 pm
 :(
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Daekesh on June 11, 2009, 05:12:23 pm
Where does it say anything about 10-man hard modes, Kage?

on wow.com there is a topic about the first Valanyr , just read that one. I read the
comments below it and i didnt see any wise asses saying "no u cant get it 10 man"
sooooooooooOOo I believe the internet. That being said i do think it is a rather silly
low drop rate in 10 man since we have been doing them a lot and still no drops.

I meant specifically from your quote.  It say *nothing* about 10-mans.  It only mentions 25...
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on June 11, 2009, 05:40:45 pm
which drop from both normal and hard-mode 25-man Ulduar fights (though they always drop on hard-mode,

Fuuuuuuuuck i make mistake. I keep thinking normal is 10 man.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Shannaro on June 12, 2009, 12:03:22 pm
you're such a noob kage XD
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on July 11, 2009, 01:51:38 pm
Its Getting Buffed. Good thing too sicne it was kinda on par with a few other items if u exclude the Absorb thing. 

-Item Level has been increased from 239 to 245
-Stamina has been increased from 52 to 55
-Intellect has been increased from 54 to 57
-Spell Power has been increased from 587 to 621
-Critical Strike Rating has been increased from 47 to 50
-Haste Rating has been increased from 46 to 49


Look at the spell power! Much better. I still personally think it needs to get a little bit more buff for it to be like TF was in Vannila and Glaives in BC.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kawe on July 11, 2009, 03:36:15 pm
TF and Glaives were both easily too good, you know this :P
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: kagemoth on July 11, 2009, 03:41:57 pm
Its arguable that its legendary and its drop rate made it as strong as it was supposed to be. IE was blessed in drops with Glaives and it was a big factor for sunwell. Why shouldnt valanyr be anymore on par with that.

Im not saying its not good. The proc is very powerful. I just think they coulda done more with the 2nd real Caster Legendary. By comparison i woulda prefered atiesh.
Title: Re: Valanyr
Post by: Daekesh on July 11, 2009, 04:33:44 pm
To be fair, it's not that hard to get, really.  It's got the same drop rate for us as other items, such as the sword from hm 10-man xt.  There's no reason for it to be super good, except for the fact that it's orange...