Iron Edge
Iron Edge => Other Games => General discussion (public) => Topic started by: Tyler on May 17, 2010, 12:46:09 pm
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I would like to get a new ironman game going on Kesh’s pitboss server. Post below if you are interested, with the leader you want and when you are available to play. It would be good to schedule at least one 2 hour session every week.
I am up for trying a few different settings this time, let me know what you think about them
Speed: Normal - let’s try normal and see how it goes
Era: Classical – I’m a bit bored of the Ancient start techs
Map: Terra – I liked the style on terra, it probably needs to be bigger and have tribal villages though
Size: Large – if we use Terra style map we should probably use one size bigger than normal
Tribal Villages: On – with the Terra style this gives explorers a chance for a reward
Barbarians: On – this should encourage people to have at least 3 units per city and gives a chance to promote some early units
Random Events: Off – no one wants to have their first granary washed away
Always War: Off – Alliances are fun
Tech Trading: Off – alliances of 3 players each following different tech strands would make the tech choices flat and dull.
Edit: And you need UDP port 2056 open and forwarded on your PC. This site http://portforward.com/help/portcheck.htm has a tool to check that the port is open. UDP ports can only be checked by running something on your local machine.
Portforward.com also has detailed instructions on how to forward on many different routers. It even explains some of the technical shit if you are interested why being able to host DoTA, on TCP port 6112 for example, does not mean that your UDP port will automatically work...
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I'm game!
Times: Not earlier than 16:00 on weekdays, I have raid 20:00 - 24:00 on Monday and Tuesday, 19:00-24:00 on Sunday (Drinking could occur on saturdays)
I would like Chinese this time, I still remember the awesome crossbowmen from Age of Empires
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I'm in, let me know a time and place!
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Im game although this particular saturday, im not home :(
I would like Russia with Stalin.
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Thinking of playing Hannibal, Bodica or Capac for this one. Any advice welcome!
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I'm in. Sundays generally bad. Saturday better.
No idea which leader is good for a Classical start.
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does this mean we will stop the other game?
anyway im in and im gonna be the dutch as allways
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Can maybe make Saturday if we start in the evening! But I finish Uni this week so will be celebrating most likely on the weekend. Best days for me after this weekend are Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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I'll give it a go. Any time outside of raid times: Monday-Friday/Sunday 19:30-24:00.
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I want in on this. Still working out which Civ I want to be.
Generally, weekdays, Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday evenings (raid nights) and most of Saturdays I'm working or raiding. Apart from that, it should be fine, as long as I know beforehand and can plan.
Oh and something you should know about starting in Classical age. I started a game in Classical age, cos I wanted to see what would happen with the first 3 religions, as we all start off with the tech, so what would happen? Turns out that it seems to randomly assign them to the civs in the game. Secoundly, I started with all tech of ancient, cepting horse riding, metalworking and one other. Started researching Monarchy, and then several turns later, having not researched them, I suddenly got the 3 missing techs? Kinda weird. It also takes ages to get your first new tech, as it counts that you have all the previous ones, but you don't have the cities/resources you would have needed to get them when you start, so the first tech is like 20-35 turns.
Barbarians.
This is important info for people playing this game. Barbarians in a game were you start in Classical age are no longer a pushover, and can quite easily totally rape your cities and capital within a dozen or so turns, if you are unprepared for them.
This is do to one fact: Barbarians start with all the military tech of the ancient age, and also have the necessary resources to built them (i.e. iron/copper) and therefore will be sending Axemen, Spearmen and Swordsmen (rather than free xp warriors)at your capital at a very early turn. If your don't have copper or iron yourself, or are not prepared for them, you are basically fucked.
In the game I was playing, I had just done enough turns to make 2 archers in my capital, and had one other city with an archer in it, and then suddenly, 9 Axemen appeared on my boarders (the large amount is cos I had "raging barbarians" on, but you get the point). Not starting near any copper or iron, I had nothing to build against them, excepting warriors and archers, and could do nothing except turtle in my base for the next 10 turns, while they pillaged all my resources, and then eventually broke by throwing themselves individually at my capital. This put me back a good 20 or so turns >:(.
Keep this in mind. Just assume you are starting next to Palmar, and you will do fine.
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How does Sunday evening sound to everyone. Say 9-11pm ST? I think I’m going to try Korea.
To answer Grish: I’m still taking my turns in our current game, and I will until the new one starts.
Killi: go with Hannibal, he is more suited to a classical game than the others you listed.
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Sunday is fine for me.
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How does Sunday evening sound to everyone. Say 9-11pm ST? I think I’m going to try Korea.
To answer Grish: I’m still taking my turns in our current game, and I will until the new one starts.
Killi: go with Hannibal, he is more suited to a classical game than the others you listed.
I would love it if we were to start sunday evening/late afternoon!
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Sunday evening is Kawe's 10-man raid...! (I'm in it).
Also, got a wedding this Sunday.
Saturday rules...!
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Ya, Sunday bad. Only evening I'm available is Saturday :(
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Looks like Saturday it is then, but not this week. Is early evening OK? Say 5-7pm CEST to allow for beer.
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Sounds good.
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Cool, I'll be there.
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So where was everyone last night? :)
Saw me, Tyler, Grish, Archz about, not many others.
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I thought Tyler said Saturday, but not this Saturday?
Also, next Saturday I am being called into London to... visit... a... female friend... in a hotel...
Not confirmed yet, but highly likely.
Damn summer! Makes people do crazy things!
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Is she a prostitute? It's ok, we won't judge!
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No!
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Although 'called in' is interesting terminology. Perhaps it is Delling who is the prostitute!
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It was just me being coy! Never kiss and tell!
And yeah, confirmed, won't be here Saturday.
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so since delling is gonna be a man whore this saturday are we planning on doing a quick game this time? and next week when dell isnt bieng a man whore (hopefully) we start our big game again?
also since we pretty much all stopped playing the other big game i was wondering who else besides me had a colony on the new world?
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I had a few new settlements in the north -- but nothing to the west/east.
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So, Civ today?
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I'm around...
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IF we do a game today and im not here( i think we planned to do a quick one today right?) start without me.
Got a football tournament and don't have an exact ending time.
Forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa SV Swift!!!!
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I'm out from 3pm game time today... available until then!
(But yeah, Tyler arranged for a quick game today I think.)
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guessing people come around 5pm then? anyway i probably have some music on so poke me on steam or something
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I'm around if anyone fancies a lazy Sunday game...!
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I'm around if anyone fancies a lazy Sunday game...!
gief
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Are people up for this on Saturday, say 4pm CEST?
I think maybe ancient start would be better, as that is what most people will have practiced. It also means that no civs unique unit will be wasted.
What do people think of the Earth2 style map. I quite like the idea but it might make it hard to gang up on a run-away leader.
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i am allways here and dont realy care about what map tbh
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I'm almost through a Great Plains game at the mo -- very, very easy, but also some people are separated permanently, because there's no body of water -- the person on the left may never meet the person on the right.
Earth2 was fun because you know where the land masses generally are! Europe was hilariously tight though -- I started in Spain, and I had an enemy in north France. I didn't even have space for a second city!
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I'm currently having an epic game on "Fleme's Earth18", which is the first scenario in the list. I think we should try an MP game on that map.
We can fill the empty spots with AI, then allow late joiners to take over an AI civ. If we also make the AI play people who can't make it on a particular weekend then we are go.
Anyone who is interested should try a single player "Fleme's Earth" game first, so that they can pick their fave civ. I will take whatever is left. Be aware that the three civs in the old world have a big tech disadvantage (you get a bonus to research for all the civs you have contacted who have the tech you are researching). This is somewhat balanced by safety... But you better be ready for Palmar's conquistadors!
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Hm where that "Fleme's Earth18" map is ,at "Beyond the sword", "Play Scenario" or "Play Now!"? Kinda can't find it .
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For me I launch Beyond the Sword, then chose "Play Scenario", then choose "Fleme's Earth18" (i might need ti check this when i get homw)
I wonder if I downloaded it many moons ago...
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Hm where that "Fleme's Earth18" map is ,at "Beyond the sword", "Play Scenario" or "Play Now!"? Kinda can't find it .
Cant find it either, there is an earth18 though.
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Ah yes I remember downloading it now. It is a modified version of the one that ships. Altered to make the starting positions more even etc. It plays out really well.
Here is the link if you wanna try before saturday (you don't have to download to join the MP game, just if you wanna test)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13683
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There is a new version of that map http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=14572
I'm not sure if we should use that one though. I'm sure the starting position balance tweaks are good but he has removed Montezuma, Victoria, Tokugawa and added Pacal II, Peter and Gandhi.
I guess those leaders make for a better game balance (when they are played by AI), but it removes some interesting MP choices. Saftey of a island vs being stuck on a island. In all the games I have played as England Japan has always been very backward.
Maybe I will give it a try and see...
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Well I hope they have seriously rebalanced the map, as I played a Earth18 map as England, and was unable to get more than 3 cities, starting on the british isles, while the Russian and American comps start on a massive landmass with lots of resources, and little competition.
Also I don't think its a good idea to do a map where we already know the layout of, especially one that comes with screen shots showing where all the good resources are located.
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The idea would be to choose a civ that you were happy with the start location. I would activley encourage people to open the map in the world builder to check where the resources are.
In the games I have played many different AI civs have been my main competion, leading me to think that the map is pretty well balanced. Maybe we should choose the v1.1 map though to aviod anyone getting stuck on an island.
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Right we had a little test of the map etc last night and we are good to go. We are going to use Fleme's Earth18 v1.1 map from this link http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=14572.
If you want to have a good look at it first download it into you beyond the sword\public maps folder. It should then appear in the list of available scenarios. Choose a civ and take one turn. Then go to game menu -> enter world builder to check it out.
I have a feeling this game is going to be epic!
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We also need to pick civs -- tentatively, I will play the Ottomans.
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Erm, are you sure this balanced Tyler?
For example, some of the civ's get boned on starting tech, as he has modded it so that all civs get hunting and archery when they start, and this can be in addition to the two that you start with. However if you already start with any of those, it doesn't change, so civs that don't start with those two, effectively get two free tech advances, while some others don't.
And the land masses seem still somewhat unbalanced. All of South America for one civ?
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would like to play the russians for this map then
anyway i have to agree with hugman it seems a bit unbalanced to me
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Trust the developer, and the hundreds of people that have played it before us...!
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(Not to mention, trust Tyler... he's one of the fairest people you'll meet.)
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Put me down as Inca then. I assume that the unused civs will be AI?
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Its balanced alright. Play a couple of single player games, at least until you have developed astronomy amd see.
The civs in the new world have awesome land and traits, however their isolation means they will be quite far behind in tech when they meet the old world civs. The other point is: if you think the Inca have a massive advantage, go ahead and pick them. Its all out in the open os you can make that sort of choice.
I will choose civ last, or you can all chose one for me to play. I am that confident that they are balanced.
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Yarr un-used civs are AI. New players can come in and take over any time though.
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I'll go with the holy romans.
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May there be peace in our time, Kesh!
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Death to the heathens! :)
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On second thoughts, I don't want to be stranded while all the real action is happening in the old world; would like Khemer civ pls.
So we are doing this Sat afternoon when get back from work about 4pm server-time-ish?
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I think I'll take up the Babylonians :)
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I'm in too. IIRc you could play with gandhi in flemmes earth so I'll take that if its not reserved yet.
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Woohoo! Big game!
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Installed Civ again after some time , map 1,1 tested pretty good one , but what made me ragy is that fuc.... "knights" killing my rifleman aka "infantry"(even in town with wall) , wtf spear on gun and winnning Oo that's wrong or i missed point ? :)
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Installed Civ again after some time , map 1,1 tested pretty good one , but what made me ragy is that fuc.... "knights" killing my rifleman aka "infantry"(even in town with wall) , wtf spear on gun and winnning Oo that's wrong or i missed point ? :)
Ale can play too?
You know he's dating Lady Gaga:
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screw Babylonians, tried some games, bad bad place to be, I take up something else, probably Portugal or something
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Back early, will be sweltering in a quiet ts channel; give me a shout.
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There's currently a test game up to make sure people can connect:
civ.iron-edge.co.uk
ttam.kicks-ass.net
90.197.146.37
One of those should work. Password is moo.
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Epic!
10 hours!
AI teams that could be taken over:
Mongolian
Ethiopian
Some American people (Aztec, Inca?)
You don't want Persian/Babylonian.
Fun stuff so far :)
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You dont want Carthagians either :) bad bad
Malinese are free for the taking too, they are quite strong too, but in war with Sint (he needs a beating).
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You played quite a few turns after I went to bed? Seems like the AI wanted to take back the silly Keshtopia that I abandoned in the first place.
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Yeah. The AI playing me seems to have moved all my troops into KIV and then u just waltz in! Fucking AI!
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wow looks like a big fat rumble this map :)
I took the malinese to beat up Sint.
Does the AI play your civ when you log out?
Seems sint is still logged in but not playing atm ?
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If you retire, AI takes over, if you just leave, it doesnt.
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If you do retire, you can take control back by just rejoining the game and choosing your civ.
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@ Matt: Server went fubar it seems
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Yeah... Sparrow was complaining of sync errors, so i saved+restarted it. Took the opportunity to do a system update aswell... when it rebooted, it decided it was a good time to do a disk check :P
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I suppose we don't have a turn timer...
That might end up being a bit of a pain in the ass...
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Something to learn for the next game :)
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oh well, guess we'll just have to do another session
:)
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Civ 5 preview:
Hexagons, no unit stacking etcetc.
http://www.ugo.com/games/civilization-5-preview
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I spoke to a few people in the game.
Seems like it's very open at the moment, this will be interesting.
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Can't seem to join the game anymore, doesn't even get past the join game screen.
KESH WHAT DID YOU DO!!!
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1) Kick Archz to make him AI
2) Saturday it seems some of us cant make it.
Is this evening an option/sunday?
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This evening would be sort-of fine for me. I'd be a bit distracted but could press entor easily.
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Arches said he was going Friday? It's not friday? :)
This evening is the A-Raid's first raid, tommorow is a possibility.
Sunday evening I have a raid :(
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Saturday was the agreed time!
Turn up, or AI!
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Isnt there extended maintenance stuff today?
Or did i misshear that?
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Next week, I think Cwave.
Basically, tyler/I/sint/hugman/archz should all be able to come... or at least those haven't produced an excuse.
So it comes down to when the raid is finished.
sparrow/shiftey/dell/matt/grish will all be raiding, I doubt they'll be done before grish/cwave and other early workers have to go to sleep.
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Kk, well, ill AI on saturday then!
Hovering around tonight!
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This Saturday? Can't make it, but I have faith in my AI! Crush the remainder of Kesh!
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I smashed part of your army already, Arches! :)
I'll kick u from the game Friday afternoon if u haven't retired manually by then. Unless you want me to do it earlier :)
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Oh, and Grish, some people are saying you don't mind being kicked from the game so we can take some turns? Is that something we can do during the day or overnight or whatever?
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Hello everyone.
There is no a-raid tonight.
Is there a chance we can play from 21:00-23:00 server time (or longer, if people stay awake)?
Please try to be there.
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Also, I've enabled the smtp stuff in pitboss, so you should get an email when it's your turn. If you want these emails, you need to log in to the game, press escape, goto 'Your Details', scroll down and enter your email address.
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Oh, and Grish, some people are saying you don't mind being kicked from the game so we can take some turns? Is that something we can do during the day or overnight or whatever?
all i said was that im not gonna get up earlier on a work day if i dont have to just to take a turn
im taking my turn when i get back from work and then i realise the next turn hasnt started yet cause sint is micro'ing
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Pressing enter in the morning is quite crucial grish.
Can you play tonight?
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i would be able to if you didnt fucking kick me now i cant enter the game cause of some error after transfering a shitload of data
and no im not going to get up earlier if i dont have to 5.30 is early enough thank you very much
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you are attemting to load a corrupted game file it says...
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Matt was fiddling with the server, perhaps you need to delete your savefile and re-join?
Don't try it until we've heard from him though.
pressing enter takes less than 5 seconds, if you really need those 5 seconds in the morning... I just have no words!
unless you actually turn off your computer!
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it takes more then 5 minutes if you have an empire larger then 2 towns palmar
and yes i do actualy turn off my pc
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it takes more then 5 minutes if you have an empire larger then 2 towns palmar
and yes i do actualy turn off my pc
:O
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wat?
oh and its working again
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it takes more then 5 minutes if you have an empire larger then 2 towns palmar
OH IT'S ON GRISH, IM COMING AFTER YOU.
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it takes more then 5 minutes if you have an empire larger then 2 towns palmar
OH IT'S ON GRISH, IM COMING AFTER YOU.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/308copv.jpg)
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I m up for late raid ;)
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This is a thread about Civilization... not raiding :P
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Hug, Grish and Kesh wiped out in a single session!
(Grish and Kesh, you'll be glad to hear that you're now my vassal.)
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Oeh nice turn of events, did hugman have any substantial army or just one mega wonder super city???
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He had a large but out dated army, mainly muskets. My infantry men made light work of them. He managed to get a couple of riflemen near then end, but to no avail.
I would like to press on with the game tonight if you are about dell. Anyone else who can't make it can be replaced by AI I guess.
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I'll be there, living the american dream.
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Kesh and Grish wiped out? Eak is my AI next? Who wiped them out?
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Kesh and Grish wiped out? Eak is my AI next? Who wiped them out?
The blood-thirsty tyrant Delling, and his shiftey henchman.
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Yar, can do Tyler!
I think I made a mistake in vassalling Russia and Holy Romans -- means I now can't expand to fill Europe.
Only route now is through Persia and India... which is too close to you!
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I guess Kesh was there for the picking after I had soften him up a bit :p
And Grish seemed to be quite far behind on the tech front, still only a few archers in the cities last time I checked ^^
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He had a ton of Macemen over on the right -- put up quite a lot of resistance in Moscow!
Kesh also resisted quite well... but riflemen and cannons reigned that day.
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Seems dell didn't make the mistake Arches' AI made of splitting his megastackofinstantcitykilling into 4 separate stacks that i killed np.
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Silly AI