Turkey should join europe.
We would get a nice penis shaped extension on our map! :)
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All of them lazy benefit leaching thieves, they caused more trouble than what they were worth, going round stealing shit all the time, raping and mugging, it was fucking disgusting. They should all be gassed IMO.
And before any turkish members of the guild get all mad at me for the above comment, step back and think for a moment before you come in here guns blazing protecting your glorious nation, unless you have seen and experienced the things i have, you cant comment really.
Ive had friends mugged, friends stabbed, friends raped and even been held at knifepoint myself by turks, so my view is a very negative and possibly distorted one, unfortunately i will always feel this way due to the past incidents.
Quick question tho... Do turks all carry knives around in turkey? cos all the turks in holland and germany are fucking pussies who cant fight with their fists, and always carry a knife on them.
Seems like youre hanging out with the wrong crowd
First of all Turkey is the 17th biggest economy of the world. Which means biggest economy in europe (in b4 turkey not is not in europe) after germany, britain, france, italy and spain all members of g7 except spain.
Unfortunately it has low GDP per capita only eu country lower than Turkey is Bulgaria and Romania is a close one. Bigger economy means more trade regardless of per capita income.
I was expecting your post to highlight points disproving the stuff i had mentioned before... but i couldnt really find anything, most of it you seemed to be agreeing, so i dont really know how to reply :\
no matter how good your posts are destro you cant be taken serious as long as you have a naked hairy man as a signature
The guy who held you in knifepoint made a unfortunate mistake, hope he wont next time..
-Yes turkey is not rich country BUT it has a big economy. "strain it would put on rest of the eu" won't be so much different than polland romania and bulgaria. Considering the level of corruption in the last one.
Quote-Yes turkey is not rich country BUT it has a big economy. "strain it would put on rest of the eu" won't be so much different than polland romania and bulgaria. Considering the level of corruption in the last one.
Poland is propably the country that delt the best with recent economic crisis from whole EU, or at least thats what statistics were showing like 3-4 months ago.
i like anus
Ah okay my bad, he spelt Poland wrong, you mad?
(I really, really hate nationalism :))
Quote-Yes turkey is not rich country BUT it has a big economy. "strain it would put on rest of the eu" won't be so much different than polland romania and bulgaria. Considering the level of corruption in the last one.
Poland is propably the country that delt the best with recent economic crisis from whole EU, or at least thats what statistics were showing like 3-4 months ago.
To me who is an innocent bystander, it's basically a story about
RED CORNER
Defensive Turk's
BLUE CORNER
Angry brit
And they both know Karate that could kill your ancestors and NO ONE IS FUCKING WINNING.
Uh
Are you suggesting everyone is equal in worth?
Really?
Nationalism has caused almost every conflict in history. It's the belief that you are more important (and valuable) than them. It created racism. Even religious stuff is similar to nationalism -- there's no real rationale behind Christian/Muslim conflict, just that they are _different_. They're not us.
Secondly, which is my point, is that not judging means you allow "wrong" things to happen, without intervening to stop it. If you do not judge that, for example, a country where sex before marriage is punished with stoning is a bad thing, you are consiously allowing it if you do not try to get it undone.
I don't understand where the nationalism argument came from. Original post didn't have anything about nationalism, destro never said anything about nationalism to me. I just read destro's post in delling's thread and noticed the lack of knowledge behind it (and yes I noticed you were not very serious destro). There is nothing about rightness or superiority of the my nation in my posts. I am actually against nationalism, I think nations are imagined communities created to rally the masses for the interest of ruling elites. A nationalistic argument would be more like, Turkey is actually a great paradise like country but agents of EU/America/Israel are holding us back by creating fake human rights violations and controlling the economy by buying our glorious land. EU is trying to control the Turkey therefore we must not join it and not sale our lands to them. Britain is still planning to divide our lands like 100 years ago so they are teaching english in our schools etc. Also as you might notice they are against foreign investments. Ironically they believe kurds are making to much children don't work and prone to violence in the places they migrated.
I am sure older people in the guild will remember that I like making threads about controversial and political topics. So this is not just about you Destro; I like serious trolling ;)
Nationalism is actually a recent construct Delling. So it is not the cause of all the conflicts. What you are actually talking is about socialization and group dynamics which is even older than humanity (monkeys and many animals can do it too). But you are right in a sense that most violence and death in the human history is created by using nationalism. But it not a end it is actually a mean. Real nationalism is propagated with the conscription armies although its philosophical roots were from the french revolution. French army used conscription and beat many of the other nations with this huge number of soldiers with a very low costs. But to motivate them into killing other people (unlike professional soldiers of the previous era) they have to find a reason. This whole we are superior/we are always under attack from evil others/they took our land rhetoric is created for that purpose. After French victory, other nations slowly adapted this approach. Which gave way to national history, rival/enemy nation and so on. Well when you think about it, it is actually very logical and cost effective way for someone in power to reach their interest. And when you attack others, others have a reason to fight against you (defending themselves :) ) so it escalates all the time.
Before nationalism there were lots of wars thats right but most of them were between professional armies and civilians were not harmed (except some historical massacres stemming from religion). It is hard for us to grasp but civilians were not actually effected by who was ruling them except the rare times they see officals of kingdom when tax payers came or when they went to court (most of the judges were choosen from local judge families).
I am sure older people in the guild will remember that I like making threads about controversial and political topics. So this is not just about you Destro; I like serious trolling ;)
Sorry to mass dispell your bubble
Fatal , after satta your next..after them your next xD
Sure, there are plenty of good reasons for war
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It's more paedophiliac than the thread that Nach started; and that's full of pictures of animated skimpily clad tweens.
Not that I don't have balls or backing up, I just don't wanna get involved at all.. Peace.This topic, argument, discussion, nationalism, racisim, and more won't end till we die for sure. Eventhough I'm a Turskish Citizen (which is my 2nd nationality) I think, no wait... lets end this topic shall we, there is no such thing that (Fatal I know you're right) this will go an end. please guys PEACE all I want innocent smile :)
Please highlight how he is right? and even what subjects he is right on, because as far as i see it, its just endless bullshit getting crushed by me, which then evolves into something different, or he says he meant something else...
one nuke to solve them all....
Sigh, talking to you is like talking to a brick fucking wall, I DONT WANT YOU TO REPEAT YOURSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IM SICK AND TIRED OF THE SAME BULLSHIT AND FALSE CLAIMS THAT YOU COME OUT WITH, YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.Eh I am bored of saying the same things over and over again Destro. First I would felt insulted if you said England had always have a isolationist policy or Denmark was a expansionist country in 20th century I would felt much more insulted if you spewed nonsense about psychology and force it on people without evidence.
~Bullshit, the only reason you made this post is because your nationalistic pride was hurt, there were no other reasons for you to bring this up and continue it on for 7 pages of nonsense~QuoteMy problem is with the things you believe that are right but indeed wrong.
~You have not proven me wrong once so far, so i dont see what the gameplan is here.~QuoteAlso you could have just look the current theories on european union, enlargement of EU and Turkey and see that those ideas were not originally mine. There are literally hundreds of books out there about this topic. So yes there are a lot of people sharing "my" ideas.
~What does this have to do with everything? your just spurting bullshit completely off subject and then reinforcing yourself so that you look good, your acting like i dont know about anything on the subject of turkey and the EU, your acting like the whole idea of turkey possibly being in the EU is some new and exciting prospect. Turkey is a shithole full of snakes who have commited atrocities over centuries, there are many books about it, HISTORY BOOKS, and many people share "my" ideas. You see what i did there? I can play that game aswellQuoteI don't know if you know about the Belgian foreign minister's quote. About europe being a economic giant but a military dwarf. The problem about is not the number of soldiers but technology but about the organization. Just simple adding of numbers don't make an army. Becauce of the current system it is very hard to take any action reaching the consensus is very hard and many countries gave different interests.
You said EU can invade both hemispheres but in reality it even failed a simple peace keeping operation at its doorstep (bosnia).
~Bosnia has been in crisis years before the EU forged any real substantial backing to each other. Moron. Thats like bringing up the falkland islands or some bullshit that happened years ago~QuoteCurrently they are trying to unifing the military organization under the Lisbon treaty but as you probably know it is not going so well.
~Yes i do know, and i hope that the lisbon treaty never gets pushed through as it is a fucking joke. And you are right, you cant just combine forces together and hope to be a power based off numbers alone, but lets think about something... what are the top 10 powers in the world? These may not be entirely accurate in terms of positioning, but its damn sure close.
1, America
2, China
3, Russia
4, India
5, United Kingdom
6, Germany
7, France
8,Brazil
9, Japan
10, Turkey
Now as i said, you are right that adding pure numbers alone doesnt make a super power, but think about it, the UK, Germany, France and all the other EU nations would have to do, is fight battles on different fronts, using there own expertise and armies. That alone is a force to be reckoned with, and once the EU has fully merged into a full fledged fighting unit, only America could rival it. Most people believe the super power's of today to be, America > Europe > China > Russia > India, and if you base off of manpower, military equipment and technology, funding expenditure, potential funding expenditure, it just reinforces the above heirachy. There are many people that share this belief, and there are many books about it sharing "my" ideas. You see what i did there again?QuoteThere are lots of academic books and articles about EU and USA and the current world balance in which USA wants a unipolar world while some parts of EU wants to completely emerge as a world power (with a complete military structure). UK is one of the members who doesn't want more central EU and have very close relationship with USA and you know membership of UK was problematic too.
~France and Germany just want to act like the big dogs and dont want to be dragged into the 51st state like the UK have, personally i think it would be moronic not to work together with america, they are leaps and bounds ahead of any other nation, and it will be a hundred years before any other country will even be able to challenge them on a military level, and thats only if countries like India, China, and Brazil continue there economic and military growth, however if EU use close connections as the UK are with america, there will NEVER be a power to rival us, unless China, Russia, Brazil and india form some sort of allegiance, which as we all know, will NEVER happen, and even if they were to form together, i still doubt it will have the means to rival the AMERO (Nickname for EU and America)~QuoteAs I implied in my first post EU wants Turkey because of military not economy.
~ Bullshit, you barely touched ont he subject of turkey being beneficial from a military perspective, infact all i remember reading was a bunch of bullshit about turkey being the 17th largest economy in the world, along with some other bullshit, if you did acknowledge turkey is wanted largely for its military power, then why was the majority of your rant covering the economic side of turkey?~QuoteTurkish membership will define the future EU politics
~Yeah you will be used as a gateway to tense middle eastern relations.~QuoteAnd about politics... It is certainly about interests so I would normally expect EU to include Turkey if it is in line with its interests I wouldn't feel anything about it.
~Have no idea what this paragraph is trying to achieve, just seems like a load of nothing expressed in words.~QuoteI said the economy part to prove you that adding Turkey wont be a huge strain. It is definately a not at the same level with the highly industrilized countries in EU but keep in mind that there are 27 countries in the union.
~As you have already acknowledge, there are other countries currently in the EU leaching and draining off the rest of us, why would we want to add more? the countries currently dragging us down are EU as of right and have been in the picture for centuries, im pretty sure if they had been in a different global position as turkey is, they probably wouldnt have been allowed in, just like turkey~QuoteTurkey having a big economy is good because it makes it a better "market" that means you can sell more things. And keep in mind that most of the economy is under the small modern regions in western parts so it means there are few very rich people and lots of poor ones. Again something good for eu because you can sell high profit expensive goods. (although bad for the turkish people)
~ok dont see why you felt the need to repeat yourself AGAIN...~Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires
if you dont believe me
~Dont worry i believe you, as im 99% sure most of your evidence and claims has come from trolling Wikipedia for hours on end, as to not say anything untrue and look like a tool. Oh wait you already did...~QuoteYes the effects will be less because we are already in customs union. But this also means it will be much easier for turkish economy to adapt single market.
Also think like this
Cost of membership-15(benefit from customs union)=economical loss for EU
Turkey has a lot of young population (dynamic population) while most of the EU members have old people including new members. This means that when turkey becomes a member in 2025 (10 years for membership+5 for immigration rule) immigration might be something beneficial because there will be need for workers.
~But turks dont work... what dont you understand about this concept? your tired of repeating yourself you say, well i never gave u a reason to repeat your bullshit, however ive had to repeat myself many times and am getting tired aswell. Judging from the Turks i have encountered and most people's opinion of them in those effected areas, turks are a waste of space, who wants to allow immigrants into their country when they will just leach benefits, have 7 children and leach even more... rape and mug the home nations peoples, steal, vandalise and make people who live in their own country want to leave. Why do you think 180,000 turkish people were deported from holland in 2008? because your not fucking wanted, and they were all fucking wasters. If you made this comment about something like india i would be all for it, but because your not lucky enough to be indian, this whole notion of turks coming and working in other countries is a fucking joke. I also checked up some numbers to support your claims, and quite frankly you are wrong, yes you have a bigger young population than Germany on its own, or France on its own, or the UK on its own, but thats a no brainer considering your overral population is much higher.
In order of % of the young working force compared to population.
Germany 2.9
France 2.1
UK 2.5
Turkey 1.9
Owned...QuoteI am not saying there will be a net gain for taking Turkey in but what am I trying to say(as I said in my first post) is it won't be different from taking east european countries.
~Thats the point though isnt it, they ARE european countries and have been recognised as that for many many years, turkey has never been considered as part of the EU, atleast not on a serious level, maybe your in the eurovision song contest or something and you guys got your hopes up.~QuoteHere is my opinion on the EU. I don't think Turkey should be a member. EU already has too many members than it can handle. It is not so useful as an organization in political sphere anyway. Because of its current nature there is a need for high level of cooperation and consensus between countries but they all have different interests. Other than that being an EU member would mean having a foreign policy dependent to a bloc which would mean bad relationships with most of Middle east. I personally belive there is more to gain in having good relationships with neigbors. Best scenerio would be Turkey becoming more democratic and ME countries following it without having a "evil western overlords are forcing it so it is something bad". I can talk about it more if there will be a intelligent discussion.
~I feel this whole topic has been an intelligent discussion, atleast from myside... BACK ON TOPIC! Good, we dont want you anyway, hence why you were denied 3 times, lets not get this twisted, turkey wanted to be part of the EU, not the other way around, the only reason you are even being considered is for the prospects of middle eastern relations and military power, which as you can see by the past 3 attempts, wasnt enough to override peoples decision. Please go become an MP in your country and convince them to act as you see, you will be doing the europe and the rest of the world a favour.
However im not entirely sure you were serious about not wanting to be part of the EU, if you are, and you genuinely do want turkey to stick with its neighbouring countries as its main relations, you have some serious ass kissing and apologising to do to your surrounding countries... i mean come on, which of you neighbouring countries like you? i know the ones that dont... Armenians... Bulgarians... Greeks... Kurds... Russians... Syrians...
Their must really be something wrong when you hated by that many countries from such a large and broad spectrum, you could counter argue that the UK has just as many nations hating on it, but most of ours are all from the middle east... speaks volumes~QuoteI assumed "backstabing" in Afganistan was about sending troops because you haven't said anything what that was about and gave Iraq example with supply so I said Turkey send troops to Afganistan ("even" send troops which is something more than opening supply lines.)
~Exactly, you assumed, which is basically the story of this entire thread and why you are just being perceived as a tool.~QuoteAbout migration-- I haven't said anything because it was not in your original post. I wrote a text wall about general migration. Which was not my ideas again but the current dominant theories in sociology and psychology. You can read a book about it or find some articles on google scholar if you are lazy. First of all I never said Turkish people hate Turkish immigrants they just find them different from themselves.
~Well we will put it down to a language barrier then, i insulted turkish people and gave you a glimpse of what they are like from my experiences, and then you write a lengthy piece of text which includes the acknowledgement that turkish residing turks know the immigrant turks are different, that to me basically suggests you are acknowlodging they are different from a real turkish person, and that all your nation feels the same way, hence why you have nicknames for them, and obviously because i had just insulted them, when you add that in the mix it seems like you are agreeing. Also the fact that you wrote about some social experiments as if to try and justify why the immigrant turks are a bunch of cunts, thusly defending your country, basically saying "hey we know they are dick heads, but if you check out this experiment you can see that its not their fault" when quite clearly it is their own fault, and as i keep mentioning and bringing up again and again, india and poland have lots of immigrants, and they dont seem to have these social barriers that turks do.~
All it suggests to me, based off how nationalistic every turk i have ever met is, and by the way you and the other turks are acting in this thread, is that the only reason you have these social barriers when it comes to immigrancy is because you are to proud to mix with other races, and through some superiority complex you only stick together when in an alien environment, thusly leading to all the bullshit and attrocities caused.
One of the reasons why indian and polish people are so adaptable and have smoothly transitioned into the UK is because of how modest and humble they are, something i have seen no turk posess, and you are just reinforcing that view with every post.QuoteThere is a huge difference. You have a problem with comprehension.
~Sorry to burst your bubble and shootdown your insult, but i have absolutely no problem with comprehension at all, i have acknowledged and shotdown everything you have thrown at me, and i have not missed anything or miscomprehended anything, it is you who cannot comprehend the points i am making, everytime you post i feel like you havent even read my responses, every post is just like your first one, so im sure you are getting tired of repeating yourself, but i have not given you any reason to repeat yourself at all.~QuoteAnyway yes there would be a big migration if there won't be a improvement in current economic conditions. But if we have a single monetary system and single market, there won't be so much to gain by migrating. Sure there will be still more money to gain but that will deter people they don't want to go alien place where nobody speaks their language. Also there will be flow of human capital to EU because educated people won't have hard time adapting and their life standards will increase. This flow would be negative for Turkey. Anyway your examples of polish and indian are not very meaningful. Indians lived under British for almost 4 hundred years; I am sure they know your language and culture more than turks. Polish are less related to your culture but still closer to England. So if algerians or some west africans were less problematic than Turks that would be a better example. Also as I said in economy part it might be beneficial for europe in 10-20 years.
~That is a very fair point, yes it is true as you say for indian people to adapt more easily after being colonised by us, however i disagree with poland, as i said earlier they adapt well because they are modest and humble, but there global positioning would not affect their ability to adapt to our culture. But largely i do agree with this comment, we have a large somalian community in london, and they are a fucking pain in the arse, i would be so bold as to say probably worse than the turks i have experienced in germany and holland, however i have not experienced the somalian communities first hand, and i realise this sounds like i have contradicted myself, as i had said in an earlier post britain wouldnt take shit from immigrants, BUT somalians are a bunch of stupid monkeys, and sure they are a pain in the arse and wreak havoc, but the funniest bit about them is, they only wreak havoc on and fight with each other...
Sorry wrong link
www.dedeler.tk is the correct one for you
A Dick shooped into your mouth would be cuter but crown is okay too.
Atleast one good thing come out of all this shit >>>> Destro changed his signature!
Atleast one good thing come out of all this shit >>>> Destro changed his signature!
Quoteone nuke to solve them all....
We need a thumbs up option on forums if you agree with someone's comment... YOUTUBE STYLE!
THUMBNAIL WITHOUT LINK
HRRRRRNG
Still nothing Robert :(
I just read through Destros link, and I must say there were some funny stuff in there
Nooooooo not that signature again Destro, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
me trying to make rucious mad, when he said turkey were apart of the EU i just wanted to see if i could piss him off, unfortunately it didnt work, however it did piss all the other turks off it would seem, i guess Rucious is just the least patriotic out of you all, or the most conflict shy... That would make more sense though considering he is a spineless rat.
The only person who made me mad this entire thread was Rucious, coming in and saying "your right" without having the balls to back up his claims, and thats not because i disliked his sense of nationalism by banding together with you, or just because he is a spineless rat, but mostly because i didnt succeed in dragging him into the argument... therefore i failed.
me trying to make rucious mad, when he said turkey were apart of the EU i just wanted to see if i could piss him off, unfortunately it didnt work, however it did piss all the other turks off it would seem, i guess Rucious is just the least patriotic out of you all, or the most conflict shy... That would make more sense though considering he is a spineless rat.
The only person who made me mad this entire thread was Rucious, coming in and saying "your right" without having the balls to back up his claims, and thats not because i disliked his sense of nationalism by banding together with you, or just because he is a spineless rat, but mostly because i didnt succeed in dragging him into the argument... therefore i failed.
Jeez I'm;
1.spineless rat
2.Have no balls
3.Don't know what I'm talking about
4.I dislike my sense of nationalism or w/e
5.I'm shy
6.I'm emo (but if you can)
7. more and more incoming (will be updated according to you guys what you could find about me :P)
::) the begining of this is Steve!
Bad link? was there an actual virus on that thing :S
I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
How about you ban Destro for his sig!
Or perhaps the NSFW side of it? Gladly you can block pictures from the address so you don't see the hairy ass.I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
How about you ban Destro for his sig!
The more people rage over it, the more inclined i am to keep it, i guess if you are comfortable with your sexuality you can see the humorous side to it, instead of the "OMFG THATS GAY" side to it.
Or perhaps the NSFW side of it? Gladly you can block pictures from the address so you don't see the hairy ass.I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
How about you ban Destro for his sig!
The more people rage over it, the more inclined i am to keep it, i guess if you are comfortable with your sexuality you can see the humorous side to it, instead of the "OMFG THATS GAY" side to it.
I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
How about you ban Destro for his sig!
The more people rage over it, the more inclined i am to keep it, i guess if you are comfortable with your sexuality you can see the humorous side to it, instead of the "OMFG THATS GAY" side to it.
I've temporarily banned Fatalbone from posting, after the bad-link incident.
How about you ban Destro for his sig!
The more people rage over it, the more inclined i am to keep it, i guess if you are comfortable with your sexuality you can see the humorous side to it, instead of the "OMFG THATS GAY" side to it.
Lets just say it would be pretty awkward if any of my three brothers would watch over my shoulder and see pics like that. :-\ Not everyone knows how forums work, I see text, they see pictures. Personally I couldn't care less because I ignore signatures, but other people don't and that makes it slighty uncomfortable browsing the forums when there's other people in the room. ;)
Im sorry, i was under the impression whilst one is at their place of work, they would be... working?
Im sorry, i was under the impression whilst one is at their place of work, they would be... working?
And how many of you making this NSFW claim actually even have a job? 2 of you have come as a massive surprise to me.
Im sorry, i was under the impression whilst one is at their place of work, they would be... working?Main thing you have got to consider, noone really cares what you think :)
(http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/WoW%20Art/Drums%20of%20War/wow-owned!.jpg)Picture not available? :(
me trying to make rucious mad, when he said turkey were apart of the EU i just wanted to see if i could piss him off, unfortunately it didnt work, however it did piss all the other turks off it would seem, i guess Rucious is just the least patriotic out of you all, or the most conflict shy... That would make more sense though considering he is a spineless rat.
The only person who made me mad this entire thread was Rucious, coming in and saying "your right" without having the balls to back up his claims, and thats not because i disliked his sense of nationalism by banding together with you, or just because he is a spineless rat, but mostly because i didnt succeed in dragging him into the argument... therefore i failed.
Jeez I'm;
1.spineless rat
2.Have no balls
3.Don't know what I'm talking about
4.I dislike my sense of nationalism or w/e
5.I'm shy
6.I'm emo (but if you can)
7. more and more incoming (will be updated according to you guys what you could find about me :P)
::) the begining of this is Steve!
Im sorry, i was under the impression whilst one is at their place of work, they would be... working?
And how many of you making this NSFW claim actually even have a job? 2 of you have come as a massive surprise to me.
Im sorry, i was under the impression whilst one is at their place of work, they would be... working?Main thing you have got to consider, noone really cares what you think :)
oh the irony
OH MY GOD!
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81087609/
BRB, gonna go place a strategic explosion.
BRB, gonna go place a strategic explosion.
BRB, gonna go place a strategic explosion.
Why?
Im just glad the british are a very racist nation,
He generalises so much it's sad.
"they" "them" "all muslims".
My o my, you are a perfect example of excellent cannonfodder.QuoteIm just glad the british are a very racist nation,
Muslims aren't a race, you inbred :P
Considering your trying SO HARD to insult me your not doing too well, massive self facepalm going on here, when did i suggest or even imply muslims are a race? not once... you fucking moron.
You called him a cannon fodder and when he replied in same tone you threat him with demtion? Biased much?
if let's say they start making out infront of me or make a pass to me then i would get rather angry.Good point but the fact that you get angry when two guys make out(and not get angry when a girl and a guy do it) is not THEIR fault. It's yours.
That muslim bullshit in france is exactly the same. They are causing problems for other people
and that is just simply wrong.
Moral of the story is "Keep it to yourself"
Plus, i like upsetting limping ex military personel who will end up as an assistant manager @ burger king for ever and ever, hating muslims cause they tuk hus jubs.
Only experiences I have with turks are the morons that play on Dunemaul and this turk that ran me over at a post office a couple of months back...
Only experiences I have with turks are the morons that play on Dunemaul and this turk that ran me over at a post office a couple of months back...
if let's say they start making out infront of me or make a pass to me then i would get rather angry.Good point but the fact that you get angry when two guys make out(and not get angry when a girl and a guy do it) is not THEIR fault. It's yours.
That muslim bullshit in france is exactly the same. They are causing problems for other people
and that is just simply wrong.
Moral of the story is "Keep it to yourself"
What is TA?
service medal and my gallantry medal
First of all.
No1 talk to cwave like this, u need to respect cwave in WOW!
Some retards think they are in IE 3-4months and they can act like dicks to some ppl that are here 5-6 years!
So destro and instrikt and some sisis or what ever, dont talk like that to him... to will make me hunt you!
ty for your understanding.
And PS we all know the Brother story, even tho he was the best he got kicked couse he didnt respect Daekesh.
And to counter argue kili, yes i know that i do not give respect to anyone. Maybe i should just troll myself for you so you dont have to bother.
You should take some time off Destro and come back when you've cooled down.
Give me 1 good reason why i should respect somebody for the length of time they have played this game? if anything i would work it in reverse, the people who have played longest usually have had the least social life. Im sorry i didnt start playing WoW when i was 15, i was actually out, wreaking havoc, trying to get in every girls pants, actually living life and not wasting away playing a stupid game in my best years, i have no respect for anyone who started playing WoW before they were 18 or 19, as i think those are the golden years and you should be out partying your ass off non stop.
I have more respect for people that have achieved things in life where it matters, this is a game at the end of the day, eventually everyone will quit, everyone will take a break, and eventually the game will die. And although you can say the same about life as you dont know when you will die (bit extreme i know) but outside of WoW is the only thing that matters.
Anybody watched the Derren Brown hero at 30,000 feet the other day? that shit inspired me. Life is a gift, and you should use it to the max potential. Sure if your a bit weird, maybe fat, maybe ugly, maybe smell weird, and the most fun you get out of life is playing WoW, then more power too you, but if you are somewhat normal and dont repulse everyone around you, you should be out socialising.
Bah wall of text, anyway, give me 1 reason why i should respect someone who has played a game longer than me, anything other than "He helped build up the guild you are apart of now" (Or was apart of...)
Don't be surprised when we frantically defend the community we've worked hard to build! :)
KANKER CWAVE. Oh snap.
You really shouldnt insult on a subject when you know nothing about the person and there activities in that sector.
What did i insult? i shared my beliefs and thats all, i didnt purposely go out of my way to insult anyone in particular. The only person i have insulted was Cwave, he has treated me like a dick since day 1, even before i posted on the forums. I never liked him from the first raid i did with him, but i never insulted him first, i have only ever reacted to his insults directed at me.
KANKER CWAVE. Oh snap.
As ive said, i was insulted first, and you all know how i am, im gonna respond to anyone who insults me and go 10x harder.
There would be no insulting reply's if i wasnt insulted first. Obviously the only people with a fair and non biased view are narw and intrinsic, as they felt exactly how i felt from Cwave's initial insult.
Jaca demanded that i respect Cwave based purely on the amount of time he has been in the guild, i am not twisting or abstracting anything.
Just for the record: you got the legendary on the 10th of August, and this thread was created on the 20th of August.
Btw, May i ask what officirs in IE do?
I dont see they inv new ppl, i dont see anything?
I just see canceling raids, kage playing paladin etc....
OHHH YEE THEY INV PPL TO RAIDS(WHAT PPL?)
I think offcirs need to wake up and do there job!
AHAHAH NARW u chose one of the most retarded ppl in the guild, saying he understand you.
And instrikt protect you as he is your class leader and thats his job...
So goo figure, 98% of the guild think one thing and those 2 ppl think ohter... Go figure....
and I thought I was controversial and disagreeable when I was in IE...
sigh.I feel the same like kage here,i guess this will make a lot of fuckers happy now ...
I'm pretty fucking pissed off now.
and I think I've met almost every 'old school' IEr now!
and I think I've met almost every 'old school' IEr now!
Almost :)
One thing Nach. Make sure you inform me when that day comes ! I'd gladly join you for some Grish hunting :D
One day we will have to stalk Grishnag down and force alot of beer into him and go downtown and buy him hookers.
It took more than 2 hrs for me to read fricknn 12 pages since last I visited -.-
I'm sorry for you Perry that you're leaving us :(..had good raids with you and gl. <3 I know you love me too :)
Well, I have tried to meet you a couple of times, Mal... but you've always had some other more-important narcotics-related engagement.
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We need to do more of those!