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Title: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Palmar on October 25, 2010, 02:57:08 pm
see this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160231

Post whatever you've come up with.

I started out trying to figure out a fast way to get a bunch of roaches, an expansion, some infestors and +1 ranged attack.


Build order:

10  Overlord   M:106   G:0
10  ExtractorTrick   M:76   G:0
14  Extractor   M:83   G:0
15  SpawningPool   M:218   G:0
14  +1 Drone on gas   M:18   G:0
14  +1 Drone on gas   M:18   G:0
16  +1 Drone on gas   M:160   G:40
16  Hatchery   M:304   G:72
17  Extractor   M:33   G:100
18  Lair   M:159   G:156
18  Overlord   M:146   G:85
18  +1 Drone on gas   M:46   G:85
18  +1 Drone on gas   M:46   G:85
18  MetabolicBoost   M:100   G:104
22  Queen   M:162   G:132
24  +1 Drone on gas   M:12   G:132
26  Zergling   M:222   G:246
28  Overlord   M:308   G:303
28  InfestationPit   M:208   G:303
28  Overlord   M:246   G:260
28  RoachWarren   M:159   G:264
27  Zergling   M:58   G:279
31  EvolutionChamber   M:176   G:374
31  Overlord   M:114   G:393
31  Overlord   M:108   G:419
31  Infestor   M:104   G:446
33  Overlord   M:108   G:323
33  Extractor   M:38   G:330
32  GlialReconstitution   M:112   G:357
32  Missile1   M:112   G:283
32  Roach   M:83   G:202
34  Roach   M:79   G:196
36  Roach   M:75   G:190
38  Roach   M:85   G:191
40  +1 Drone on gas   M:10   G:166
40  Infestor   M:104   G:198
42  Roach   M:85   G:76
44  Roach   M:77   G:75
46  Overlord   M:110   G:87
46  Roach   M:77   G:111
48  Roach   M:83   G:114
50  +1 Drone on gas   M:8   G:89
50  Roach   M:84   G:120
52  Roach   M:85   G:126
54  Roach   M:86   G:132
56  Roach   M:75   G:133
58  Roach   M:76   G:139
60  +1 Drone on minerals   M:1   G:114
60  Roach   M:81   G:142
62  Infestor   M:100   G:150
64  Roach   M:81   G:29
66  Roach   M:87   G:32
68  Roach   M:79   G:30
70  Roach   M:85   G:33
72  +1 Drone on minerals   M:10   G:8
72  Roach   M:80   G:29
74  Roach   M:76   G:25

Details:
Quote
@0:00   M:50   G:0   L:3   S:6/10   BuildDrone
@0:13   M:51   G:0   L:2   S:7/10   BuildDrone
@0:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@0:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@0:24   M:52   G:0   L:2   S:8/10   BuildDrone
@0:30   Spawned:   Drone+1
@0:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@0:34   M:54   G:0   L:2   S:9/10   BuildDrone
@0:41   Spawned:   Drone+1
@0:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@0:51   Spawned:   Drone+1
@0:51   M:106   G:0   L:2   S:10/10   BuildOverlord
@1:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@1:01   M:76   G:0   L:2   S:10/10   ExtractorTrick
@1:01   M:51   G:0   L:2   S:9/10   BuildDrone
@1:03   Spawned:   Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@1:16   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@1:16   M:126   G:0   L:2   S:11/18   BuildDrone
@1:16   M:76   G:0   L:1   S:12/18   BuildDrone
@1:18   Spawned:   Drone+1
@1:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@1:30   M:133   G:0   L:1   S:13/18   BuildDrone
@1:30   M:83   G:0   L:0   S:14/18   BuildExtractor
@1:33   Spawned:   Drone+1
@1:33   Spawned:   Drone+1
@1:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@1:45   M:181   G:0   L:1   S:13/18   BuildDrone
@1:47   Spawned:   Drone+1
@2:00   Spawned:   Extractor+1
@2:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@2:00   M:268   G:0   L:1   S:14/18   BuildDrone
@2:00   M:218   G:0   L:0   S:15/18   BuildSpawningPool
@2:00   M:18   G:0   L:0   S:14/18   MineGas
@2:00   M:18   G:0   L:0   S:14/18   MineGas
@2:02   Spawned:   Drone+1
@2:02   Mining:    +1 on gas
@2:02   Mining:    +1 on gas
@2:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@2:15   M:134   G:19   L:1   S:14/18   BuildDrone
@2:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@2:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@2:30   M:210   G:40   L:1   S:15/18   BuildDrone
@2:30   M:160   G:40   L:0   S:16/18   MineGas
@2:32   Spawned:   Drone+1
@2:32   Mining:    +1 on gas
@2:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@2:47   Spawned:   Drone+1
@2:47   M:304   G:72   L:1   S:16/18   BuildHatchery
@2:53   M:55   G:83   L:1   S:15/18   BuildDrone
@3:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@3:00   M:65   G:97   L:1   S:16/18   BuildDrone
@3:02   M:33   G:100   L:0   S:17/18   BuildExtractor
@3:05   Spawned:   Spawning Pool+1
@3:10   Spawned:   Drone+1
@3:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@3:15   M:113   G:125   L:1   S:16/18   BuildDrone
@3:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@3:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@3:30   M:199   G:154   L:1   S:17/18   BuildDrone
@3:31   M:159   G:156   L:0   S:18/18   BuildLair
@3:32   Spawned:   Extractor+1
@3:32   Spawned:   Drone+1
@3:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@3:45   M:146   G:85   L:1   S:18/18   BuildOverlord
@3:45   M:46   G:85   L:0   S:18/18   MineGas
@3:45   M:46   G:85   L:0   S:18/18   MineGas
@3:47   Spawned:   Drone+1
@3:47   Mining:    +1 on gas
@3:47   Mining:    +1 on gas
@3:51   M:100   G:104   L:0   S:18/18   Metabolic Boost
@4:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@4:10   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@4:10   M:175   G:66   L:1   S:18/26   BuildDrone
@4:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@4:15   M:172   G:83   L:1   S:19/26   BuildDrone
@4:27   Spawned:   Hatchery+1
@4:27   Spawned:   Drone+1
@4:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@4:30   M:262   G:132   L:2   S:20/28   BuildDrone
@4:30   M:212   G:132   L:1   S:21/28   BuildDrone
@4:30   M:162   G:132   L:0   S:22/28   BuildQueen
@4:30   M:12   G:132   L:0   S:24/28   MineGas
@4:32   Spawned:   Drone+1
@4:32   Mining:    +1 on gas
@4:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@4:45   M:158   G:189   L:2   S:24/28   BuildDrone
@4:45   M:108   G:189   L:1   S:25/28   BuildDrone
@4:47   Spawned:   Drone+1
@4:47   Spawned:   Drone+1
@4:51   Spawned:   Lairs+1
@5:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@5:00   M:222   G:246   L:2   S:26/28   BuildZergling
@5:00   M:172   G:246   L:1   S:27/28   BuildDrone
@5:02   Spawned:   Drone+1
@5:02   Spawned:   Drone+1
@5:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@5:15   M:308   G:303   L:2   S:28/28   BuildOverlord
@5:15   M:208   G:303   L:1   S:28/28   BuildInfestationPit
@5:15   M:108   G:203   L:1   S:27/28   BuildDrone
@5:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@5:20   Spawned:   Queen+1
@5:24   Spawned:   Zergling+2
@5:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@5:30   M:246   G:260   L:2   S:28/28   BuildOverlord
@5:31   M:159   G:264   L:1   S:28/28   BuildRoachWarren
@5:32   Spawned:   Drone+1
@5:35   M:58   G:279   L:1   S:27/28   BuildZergling
@5:40   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@5:41   Evolved:   Metabolic Boost
@5:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@5:45   M:135   G:317   L:2   S:28/36   BuildDrone
@5:45   M:85   G:317   L:1   S:29/36   BuildDrone
@5:55   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@5:59   Spawned:   Zergling+2
@6:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
---Waypoint 0---
At time: 6:00
Minerals: 226   Gas:      374   Supply:   30/44
Drones: 24
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 4
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 2
Spawning Pools: 1
Metabolic Boost
----------------
@6:00   M:226   G:374   L:2   S:30/44   BuildDrone
@6:00   M:176   G:374   L:1   S:31/44   BuildEvolutionChamber
@6:00   M:101   G:374   L:1   S:30/44   BuildDrone
@6:02   Spawned:   Drone+1
@6:02   Spawned:   Drone+1
@6:05   Spawned:   Infestation Pit+1
@6:05   Spawned:   Larva+4
@6:05   M:114   G:393   L:4   S:31/44   BuildOverlord
@6:12   M:108   G:419   L:3   S:31/44   BuildOverlord
@6:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@6:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@6:17   Spawned:   Drone+1
@6:19   M:104   G:446   L:4   S:31/44   BuildInfestor
@6:26   Spawned:   Roach Warren+1
@6:26   M:108   G:323   L:3   S:33/44   BuildOverlord
@6:28   M:38   G:330   L:2   S:33/44   BuildExtractor
@6:30   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@6:30   Spawned:   Larva+1
@6:35   Spawned:   Evolution Chamber+1
@6:35   M:112   G:357   L:4   S:32/52   Glial Reconstitution
@6:37   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@6:42   M:112   G:283   L:4   S:32/60   Missile +1
@6:45   Spawned:   Larva+1
@6:47   M:83   G:202   L:6   S:32/60   BuildRoach
@6:50   Spawned:   Larva+4
@6:51   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@6:52   M:79   G:196   L:9   S:34/68   BuildRoach
@6:57   M:75   G:190   L:8   S:36/68   BuildRoach
@6:58   Spawned:   Extractor+1
@7:02   Spawned:   Larva+1
@7:03   M:85   G:191   L:7   S:38/68   BuildRoach
@7:03   M:10   G:166   L:6   S:40/68   MineGas
@7:05   Mining:    +1 on gas
@7:09   Spawned:   Infestor+1
@7:10   M:104   G:198   L:6   S:40/68   BuildInfestor
@7:14   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:16   M:85   G:76   L:5   S:42/68   BuildRoach
@7:18   Spawned:   Larva+1
@7:19   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:21   M:77   G:75   L:6   S:44/68   BuildRoach
@7:24   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:29   M:110   G:87   L:5   S:46/68   BuildOverlord
@7:30   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:34   M:77   G:111   L:4   S:46/68   BuildRoach
@7:35   Spawned:   Larva+4
@7:36   Spawned:   Larva+1
@7:40   M:83   G:114   L:7   S:48/68   BuildRoach
@7:40   M:8   G:89   L:6   S:50/68   MineGas
@7:42   Mining:    +1 on gas
@7:43   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:46   M:84   G:120   L:6   S:50/68   BuildRoach
@7:48   Spawned:   Roach+1
@7:52   M:85   G:126   L:5   S:52/68   BuildRoach
@7:54   Spawned:   Overlord+1
@7:55   Spawned:   Larva+1
@7:58   M:86   G:132   L:6   S:54/76   BuildRoach
@8:00   Spawned:   Infestor+1
---Waypoint 1---
At time: 8:00
Minerals: 37   Gas:      117   Supply:   56/76
Drones: 26
Overlords: 9
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 4
Roaches: 6
Infestors: 2
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 3
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Infestation Pit: 1
Evolution Chambers: 1
Metabolic Boost
----------------
@8:01   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:03   M:75   G:133   L:5   S:56/76   BuildRoach
@8:07   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:09   M:76   G:139   L:4   S:58/76   BuildRoach
@8:09   M:1   G:114   L:3   S:60/76   MineMineral
@8:11   Mining:    +1 on mineral
@8:13   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:13   Spawned:   Larva+1
@8:15   M:81   G:142   L:5   S:60/76   BuildRoach
@8:19   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:20   Spawned:   Larva+4
@8:22   M:100   G:150   L:8   S:62/76   BuildInfestor
@8:25   Evolved:   Glial Reconstitution
@8:25   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:28   Spawned:   Larva+1
@8:28   M:81   G:29   L:7   S:64/76   BuildRoach
@8:30   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:34   M:87   G:32   L:6   S:66/76   BuildRoach
@8:36   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:39   M:79   G:30   L:5   S:68/76   BuildRoach
@8:42   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:43   Spawned:   Larva+1
@8:45   M:85   G:33   L:6   S:70/76   BuildRoach
@8:45   M:10   G:8   L:5   S:72/76   MineMineral
@8:47   Mining:    +1 on mineral
@8:50   M:80   G:29   L:5   S:72/76   BuildRoach
@8:55   Spawned:   Roach+1
@8:55   M:76   G:25   L:4   S:74/76   BuildRoach
@9:00   Spawned:   Larva+1
@9:01   Spawned:   Roach+1
@9:05   Spawned:   Larva+4
@9:06   Spawned:   Roach+1
@9:12   Spawned:   Infestor+1
@9:12   Spawned:   Roach+1
@9:15   Spawned:   Larva+1
@9:17   Spawned:   Roach+1
@9:22   Evolved:   Missile +1
@9:22   Spawned:   Roach+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 87
---Final Output---
At time: 9:22
Minerals: 384   Gas:      114   Supply:   76/76
Drones: 26
Overlords: 9
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 4
Roaches: 20
Infestors: 3
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 3
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Infestation Pit: 1
Evolution Chambers: 1
Missile +1
Metabolic Boost
Glial Reconstitution
------------------
Mon Oct 25 12:25:31 GMT 2010: 761079.0046536138

5131K games played.
105 maximum length of build order.
Stagnation Limit: 1689
1239 games played/second.
Mutation Rate: 0.009733333333333311
Processor 0 age: (3378) score: 761079.0046536138
Processor 1 age: (8) score: 613279.6592556727



Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Abyiss on October 25, 2010, 10:52:29 pm
Got any replays of this build order mate :)
Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Föötmunch on October 26, 2010, 09:58:49 am
isnt 9 overlord better?
it feels more "fluent" than 10 overlord
i ususally get exactly 3 larvae and 150 minerals as the overlord pops
Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Palmar on October 26, 2010, 10:48:44 am
It's maybe better, it's very likely not faster.

And no, I haven't even tried this shit yet, it's just an example.
Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Föötmunch on October 26, 2010, 12:49:46 pm
imo doing 9 overlord just feels more "fluent" and day9 says fluent is good :-P
Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Daekesh on October 26, 2010, 02:26:58 pm
If day9 said jump off a cliff...
Title: Re: Zerg build order optimizer
Post by: Hugman on October 26, 2010, 02:54:43 pm
If day9 said jump off a cliff...

He would be talking about reapers...