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Title: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 16, 2011, 03:08:11 pm
Introduction/Personal Information

Hail Iron Edge,

Name: Deniz (Real Name), Friends always call me Zem <3
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Country: Netherlands
Time zone: UTC+01:00 (Amsterdam, Berlin etc.)
Abbout me: Im still studying IT management on the highest level, last 2 years to go, got 5 days in the week school, but almost always available after 18:00! Im from Turkish origin, But born and raised in Netherland, due to that i've mastered several languages like Dutch, English, Turkish and German. Other than that i usually go out with friends in the weekends to have some fun and party.. But never drink any alcohol, my only bad habit is that im smoking >.< I'm an serious guy which doesn't like to be messed with and never mess with other ppl either. I'd like to talk with ppl who have high in game experience or abbout real life subjects. The reason's why I'm Applying to Iron Edge: one of them is the RBG's i want to join in ure guild and the other one is to have fun as a social community. =)

WoW History

Played: Total Time Played: 106 Days and 20 Hours,
Total Time Played This Level (85): 29 Days and 22 Hours
Personal View: Before i started to wow i was playing Knight Online, but after the company sold the game to another firma, the game became corrupt and fcked up, so i quit because it wasn't fun anymore with ppl wandering around with the highest item levels, a friend advised me to play wow, so i started, and lvl'd my main and first character (Baby) superfast to lvl 80, i started playing wow abbout right after ICC was opened in WotLK. Killed LK on my Mage and did some other TBC + Vanilla Raids for Achievement. I Didn't Pvp in that period at all, after Cataclysm, i got really into PvP, was doing some arena's first, but got bored of it because alot of ppl was only entering arena's with a healer by they're side. After that i started seeking for Rated BG groups and so i became the first mage in a random BG group, thnx to our group (Which broke up) I've made 2002 RBG Rating!


Character Information

Character Name: ?abydragon (? = Alt Gr + s)
Class/Spec: Enemies always Freeze and fall for this Sexy Blood Elf Frost Mage <3 Always played Frost so far in PvP, but considering to try Fire also!
Armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/%C3%9Fabydragon/simple
PvP Gear: Full Vicious Geared
PvP Section: RBG: 2002 Rating, Arena: None
PvP Goal: Getting 2400 Rating and having fun with Teammates during RBG's.


Hope i gave everyone a clear view abbout myself as Babydragon and what my goals are, not to forget, I've been almost always the most active member in my previous guilds, half of my PvE gear is Epic, but i don't feel like raiding in Cataclysm, So I'll only join Raids if there is a very urgent need for a mage.

Thank You All for ure Time and Reading my post,

Greetings Zem.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 17, 2011, 06:13:53 pm

Up Up Pls !  ;)
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: delling on April 17, 2011, 08:06:52 pm
Why are you called Babydragon?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Daekesh on April 17, 2011, 08:13:00 pm
Whelp was taken?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 17, 2011, 09:38:52 pm
Why are you called Babydragon?

Well I dont have a specific reason for it, but i was always fascinated abbout dragons in 1st place sinds i was a lil' kid and i love the mage class, thinking it has the elements of dragons <3

..and for the "baby" part.. well u dont expect me to make my name smthing like 'motherdragon or fatherdragon' right..? ;D
   
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 17, 2011, 09:41:01 pm
Whelp was taken?

a story like 'Baby whelp lost his parents' would fit i guess  :)[/b]
       
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Rash on April 17, 2011, 11:15:45 pm
Hey, thanks for writing this decent application to Iron Edge!

You seem to have some decent experience in RBG's, unfortunately we're just looking for that. Because you only have experience in Rated Battlegrounds, we can't really determine if you, as an individual, are just as good as the other nine teammates. For now I'd like you to get some more experience in arena, and then I suggest you try applying again.

Hope to see you again soon, en veel geluk in arena!
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 12:15:35 am
Hey, thanks for writing this decent application to Iron Edge!

You seem to have some decent experience in RBG's, unfortunately we're just looking for that. Because you only have experience in Rated Battlegrounds, we can't really determine if you, as an individual, are just as good as the other nine teammates. For now I'd like you to get some more experience in arena, and then I suggest you try applying again.

Hope to see you again soon, en veel geluk in arena!

I think i already have more than enough experiernce in arena's, its true i dont like doing arena's at atm, but having noone or not high arena rating doesnt say much abbout my personal playing skills either, since arena's arnt individual matches u can win.. like every1 knows, there has to be always a teamplayer, which im specially good at to play together with, i dont know how experienced u are as a PvP'er but i can tell u i have alot of PvP experience, and i can tell u also i worked hard to get that 2k rbg rating (u think they else would keep me) and have led most of our rbg's because i have good leadership qualities. And wheter its duels, arena's or bg's, ive done all and seen all and due to this i've become so confident abbout myself playing my class, I can match any pvp section or battle. Not to mention.. since u dont know much abbout my pvp history in arena's or as an individual player, u could give me at least a chance by testing me in duelling someone or doing some arena's or a rbg..
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Ezzardo on April 18, 2011, 12:47:18 am
It's good that you are confident, but ain't it abit to much to say that you have done all and seen all? And already more then enough experience in arena, when it is 1700 rating? According to Battle.net you have lost more duels then you have won.

Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 01:01:38 am
It's good that you are confident, but ain't it abit to much to say that you have done all and seen all? And already more then enough experience in arena, when it is 1700 rating? According to Battle.net you have lost more duels then you have won.



like i said ive stopped doing arena's after a certain time bc its not fun to constantly fight against ppl who dont dare to enter arena's without a healer.. if it would be 3v3's or 5v5's i would say oke.. but 2v2's.. cmon m8, u guys know better than that, before cataclysm they wouldnt go with a healer in a 2v2 even if that guy got payed for it.. i even got matches which ended up as a draw after 1 hour trying to kill eachother, but couldnt, bc we both entered with a healer.. soo this is what im trying to say by not liking arena's and not to mention RBG's are way more difficult than arena's, as u know.. since uve done some.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Vorte on April 18, 2011, 01:12:58 am
Bold post you made - basically displaying how little you have done and seen  :'(
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 01:22:13 am
Bold post you made - basically displaying how little you have done and seen  :'(

oke.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Dipsy on April 18, 2011, 01:28:14 am
Heya, you say you don't wanna do 2v2 arena because there's so much faceroll out there, and I agree, I can't take 2v2 seriously because half the games are half an hour long or double blood dk teams or something else boring. So how come you haven't made a switch into 3v3? It says you have only played 43 matches of that bracket.

I reccomend you play some 3v3 games in a real team and try to achieve something there. Especially as PVP guilds look for players with a little success in that bracket usually foremost! Also a good basis in that bracket really helps you out in other aspects of PVP, such as rated BGs.

Good luck
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Vorte on April 18, 2011, 01:29:59 am
To elaborate; Every single season has been dominated by healer + dps in 2v2, and the only double dps viable setups were shadow priest + rogue and mage + rogue. There is a reason 2v2 yields nothing no more, they gave up on it, it's accepted as shit and unbalanced. Why do you then play this bracket and not 3v3, or the bigger and baderer twin, 5v5?

And saying that rbg's are "way more difficult than arena" is just pure ignorance, especially as you have not been facing off against any decent oponents with your listed experience.

Whether you're delusional, or just not very into this game I don't know, but get your facts straight before you blast away with "knowledge"!  ;)
 :zerg :zerg :zerg
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 01:34:33 am
Heya, you say you don't wanna do 2v2 arena because there's so much faceroll out there, and I agree, I can't take 2v2 seriously because half the games are half an hour long or double blood dk teams or something else boring. So how come you haven't made a switch into 3v3? It says you have only played 43 matches of that bracket.

I reccomend you play some 3v3 games in a real team and try to achieve something there. Especially as PVP guilds look for players with a little success in that bracket usually foremost! Also a good basis in that bracket really helps you out in other aspects of PVP, such as rated BGs.

Good luck

Hello Dipsy, well its just that ive lost my motivation for arena's.. and focused myself on rbg's.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 01:42:32 am
To elaborate; Every single season has been dominated by healer + dps in 2v2, and the only double dps viable setups were shadow priest + rogue and mage + rogue. There is a reason 2v2 yields nothing no more, they gave up on it, it's accepted as shit and unbalanced. Why do you then play this bracket and not 3v3, or the bigger and baderer twin, 5v5?

And saying that rbg's are "way more difficult than arena" is just pure ignorance, especially as you have not been facing off against any decent oponents with your listed experience.

Whether you're delusional, or just not very into this game I don't know, but get your facts straight before you blast away with "knowledge"!  ;)
 :zerg :zerg :zerg


as a answer to ure question: i like the big deal which is the biggest possible bracket: rbg.. which i think is much more fun than arena's and its still like ive said before; rbg's r harder than any type of arena bracket, bc its way more unpredictable and harder to organize.. unless ure dealing with groups in rbg which have just started and dont have a clue abbout how to handle it, but ive faced each group with the highest rating up to 2800 in rbg's. But let me ask u this, how many times did u have led rated bg's or do u have led any rbg's at all?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Vorte on April 18, 2011, 01:51:59 am
So from what I'm reading here, rbgs are more "harder" than any arena bracket because it's unpredictable and hard to organise. Shocker here, it's in fact the oposite. Rated bgs are PLAGUED with tanks, heavy melee dps and 4+ healers. It is so predictable, what every team will do on every map that most have abandoned it completely, it's simply not competative whatsoever.
Arena on the other hand is all about communication and forcing cooldowns, wheras the only communication needed for 3000 rbg rating is "let's save cooldowns until their tank gets the 50% more damage taken debuff and right click the shit out of him.".

To your question, I think I've only led rated bgs 2 or 3 times, they were all wins with the simplest of tactics (they involved right clicking flags and pressing aoe spells and abilities). I've also played in those so-called "skilled" 2800 teams, and all we did was talk shit in terrible english..
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Ezzardo on April 18, 2011, 01:55:47 am
Is this an application about leadership? You seem to be very focused about it, at least. But anyhow, how can you be certain that rated battlegrounds are harder then arena? Cause it is harder to organize?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 02:04:00 am
So from what I'm reading here, rbgs are more "harder" than any arena bracket because it's unpredictable and hard to organise. Shocker here, it's in fact the oposite. Rated bgs are PLAGUED with tanks, heavy melee dps and 4+ healers. It is so predictable, what every team will do on every map that most have abandoned it completely, it's simply not competative whatsoever.
Arena on the other hand is all about communication and forcing cooldowns, wheras the only communication needed for 3000 rbg rating is "let's save cooldowns until their tank gets the 50% more damage taken debuff and right click the shit out of him.".

To your question, I think I've only led rated bgs 2 or 3 times, they were all wins with the simplest of tactics (they involved right clicking flags and pressing aoe spells and abilities). I've also played in those so-called "skilled" 2800 teams, and all we did was talk shit in terrible english..

i dont agree with u.. u might know some basic guidelines but its way more than that, u guys r getting told what to do from ure rbg leader when things get a bit difficult anyway, its not like ure doing the thinking work or actually using a higher percentage of ure brains than normal lol.. and since u talk so flex abbout rbg's anyway abbout how to handle it, we could say the same thing for 3v3 or 5v5 brackets since its not unpredictable at all..
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 02:06:01 am
Is this an application about leadership? You seem to be very focused about it, at least. But anyhow, how can you be certain that rated battlegrounds are harder then arena? Cause it is harder to organize?

m8 ure not even doing pvp.. why interfear with it?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Ezzardo on April 18, 2011, 02:13:34 am
So from what I'm reading here, rbgs are more "harder" than any arena bracket because it's unpredictable and hard to organise. Shocker here, it's in fact the oposite. Rated bgs are PLAGUED with tanks, heavy melee dps and 4+ healers. It is so predictable, what every team will do on every map that most have abandoned it completely, it's simply not competative whatsoever.
Arena on the other hand is all about communication and forcing cooldowns, wheras the only communication needed for 3000 rbg rating is "let's save cooldowns until their tank gets the 50% more damage taken debuff and right click the shit out of him.".

To your question, I think I've only led rated bgs 2 or 3 times, they were all wins with the simplest of tactics (they involved right clicking flags and pressing aoe spells and abilities). I've also played in those so-called "skilled" 2800 teams, and all we did was talk shit in terrible english..

i dont agree with u.. u might know some basic guidelines but its way more than that, u guys r getting told what to do from ure rbg leader when things get a bit difficult anyway, its not like ure doing the thinking work or actually using a higher percentage of ure brains than normal lol.. and since u talk so flex abbout rbg's anyway abbout how to handle it, we could say the same thing for 3v3 or 5v5 brackets since its not unpredictable at all..

You sure seems to know alot. You say it is way more then basic guildlines, what is it then? And what makes you so good at it? Good night.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: BabyDragon on April 18, 2011, 02:15:32 am
So from what I'm reading here, rbgs are more "harder" than any arena bracket because it's unpredictable and hard to organise. Shocker here, it's in fact the oposite. Rated bgs are PLAGUED with tanks, heavy melee dps and 4+ healers. It is so predictable, what every team will do on every map that most have abandoned it completely, it's simply not competative whatsoever.
Arena on the other hand is all about communication and forcing cooldowns, wheras the only communication needed for 3000 rbg rating is "let's save cooldowns until their tank gets the 50% more damage taken debuff and right click the shit out of him.".

To your question, I think I've only led rated bgs 2 or 3 times, they were all wins with the simplest of tactics (they involved right clicking flags and pressing aoe spells and abilities). I've also played in those so-called "skilled" 2800 teams, and all we did was talk shit in terrible english..

i dont agree with u.. u might know some basic guidelines but its way more than that, u guys r getting told what to do from ure rbg leader when things get a bit difficult anyway, its not like ure doing the thinking work or actually using a higher percentage of ure brains than normal lol.. and since u talk so flex abbout rbg's anyway abbout how to handle it, we could say the same thing for 3v3 or 5v5 brackets since its not unpredictable at all..

You sure seems to know alot. You say it is way more then basic guildlines, what is it then? And what makes you so good at it? Good night.

Thats Something U Can Only Find Out In A Practical Way.
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Vorte on April 18, 2011, 02:18:55 am
So from what I'm reading here, rbgs are more "harder" than any arena bracket because it's unpredictable and hard to organise. Shocker here, it's in fact the oposite. Rated bgs are PLAGUED with tanks, heavy melee dps and 4+ healers. It is so predictable, what every team will do on every map that most have abandoned it completely, it's simply not competative whatsoever.
Arena on the other hand is all about communication and forcing cooldowns, wheras the only communication needed for 3000 rbg rating is "let's save cooldowns until their tank gets the 50% more damage taken debuff and right click the shit out of him.".

To your question, I think I've only led rated bgs 2 or 3 times, they were all wins with the simplest of tactics (they involved right clicking flags and pressing aoe spells and abilities). I've also played in those so-called "skilled" 2800 teams, and all we did was talk shit in terrible english..

i dont agree with u.. u might know some basic guidelines but its way more than that, u guys r getting told what to do from ure rbg leader when things get a bit difficult anyway, its not like ure doing the thinking work or actually using a higher percentage of ure brains than normal lol.. and since u talk so flex abbout rbg's anyway abbout how to handle it, we could say the same thing for 3v3 or 5v5 brackets since its not unpredictable at all..

What do you not "agree on"? I'm stating facts, not my opinions! And yes, people who are not shit at the game do not need someone to tell em to kill the squishiest target.

And yes, there are multiple things and decicions you gotta make within a global in an arena game, there is nothing remotely close to that in a rbg. You baffle me with your boldness!
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Rash on April 18, 2011, 10:35:08 am
As the leader of Iron Edge PvP, and the highest rated RBG team on the realm, I think Vorte is closer to the truth than you are, Babydragon.

My decision still stands, so I want you to gain more experience in the arena (3v3 or 5v5). Especially your statement about healers in 2v2, really proves that you do not have the knowledge to really have a proper discussion here.

I'd recommend you do that, after, we'd be happy to continue this discussion :)
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: delling on April 18, 2011, 10:43:17 am
A good conversation, by the way! This is why we have a recruitment forum (and a 24-hour 'settling' period).

Good luck, Baby; see you around.

-D
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Eluneap0p on April 18, 2011, 06:39:45 pm
zomg its goons former guild leader... gifff! h3h3h3
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Ezzardo on April 18, 2011, 06:42:57 pm
zomg its goons former guild leader... gifff! h3h3h3

Really?
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Koshan on April 18, 2011, 08:15:46 pm
hehehhehehe
Title: Re: Baby - Frost Mage
Post by: Conserr on April 18, 2011, 09:26:15 pm
Dx x