Iron Edge
Iron Edge => General Discussion => Topic started by: hid on October 27, 2011, 10:18:47 am
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The new raid lockout changes for Taiwan and Korea adjust the lockout timers for the patch 4.0 and 4.2 raids. The lockout timers for these raids will now reset twice weekly instead of once. These raid lockout changes are being made to allow players to raid more often and get more chances at epic loot drops. Players will be able to down current Cataclysm raid bosses twice a week, accelerating players? progression.
We are testing these new raid lockout changes in Taiwan and Korea first. Our goal is to expand this change to other regions in the future, but we don?t have anything further to announce at this time with regard to North American implementation.
i really hope they don't make this change come to eu, yet again it has upsides like obtaining gear quicker ... but there will be soooo many oranges around with double lockout clearing especially once u get everything on farm
overall i think it's one of the worst things they could do atm
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maybe if they make requirement to actually clear the lockout, but well that's gonna make guild who clears content first so buffed for next content, like having all rogues with legendary, all casters with legendary etc ...
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What they should do instead, is to share lockout between 10 and 25 man, instead of locking players to one of them.
That way, a lot more 25 man raids would survive, for obvious reasons.
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well it currently looks like it's 4.0 content to 4.2
So maybe they'll nerf the drop on Cinders etc? I doubt after 4.3 hits many people will do 25 man for the staff.
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I just want them to like stick to either 25man or 10man, TBC style.
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Im pretty sure this will only be a feature for outdated content, which I think is ok, I dont mind people being able to farm old instances twice a week to catch up with current content.
But ofcourse it will be relevant to nerf the legendary cinders.
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What I think they should do is have the previous tier lockouts reset twice a week, that way people can gear up quicker for the new raid content.
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Seems like that is what they are doing.
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firelands will be new "old content" soon ... so in 6 hours u can clear it twice and get 8-9 souls from each boss, so basically 14 times 8 equals to 112 souls .. aka 1/2 of amount needed on last part of the legendary quest chain, pretty much everyone has cinders now so most ppl are waiting just to drain the souls
as that legendary will still stay bis in 4.3 even with nerfs ... i think its rather stupid :>
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Maybe they are making it unobtainable? (Highly unlikely..)
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i think they want you to farm it even more instead
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Legendary items sure lost it's "legendary" feeling ^^
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maybe its just me but i think it was much more awesome feeling when it dropped from the boss rather then going through entire process of making it
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i think you are missing something.
You actually need a full raid to do this. So it depends on getting those 24 other people and since there has been no mention of how and when this would be implemented in EU and US, I would expect stuff to get nerfed.
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full clear takes 3 hours, double clear possible without any problems in 6 hours
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Yes but you still need 24 people to play with you for those 6 hours.
There are not any players in this game that I like enough to do two full firelands raids for, when we are progressing for deathwing.
TBH if you can stomach the pain of doing two firelands pugs a week besides normal raiding then I think you deserve a staff.
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The reasoning for the possible change is more than likley due to Dragonsoul. I think the HC modes will be tuned around every caster having the legendary staff. This means there will be HUGE dps requirements involved. I don't think that they will impliment the same lockout system for Dragonsoul though. Not at the start anyway.
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The reasoning for the possible change is more than likley due to Dragonsoul. I think the HC modes will be tuned around every caster having the legendary staff. This means there will be HUGE dps requirements involved. I don't think that they will impliment the same lockout system for Dragonsoul though. Not at the start anyway.
Isnt legendary staff getting a nerf ?
Edit: Yeah nerfed in 4.3, proc chance lowerd
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There are not any players in this game that I like enough
so much hate... :P
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The nerf is only there so people will maybe take Deathwing weapons as upgrades. Atm the staff needs a nerf. It is WAY to powerful.
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tell that to apex kage, they have 8 legendaries in the guild already
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http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Pibrox/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Shant%C3%A1l/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Ccd/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Fals/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Tador/simple
cba to look for more ... but imagine entire squad having it ... T_T
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Even IE has 3 or 4 now?
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it will be 10 til patch ... full caster crew will work @ juice factory
that's basically 5-6% more raid dps overall
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Im pretty sure they only nerfed the staff cause it scales with gear and as gear improves in 4.3 it went way to powerfull. The procrate is about 15% if im not misstaken, in reallty its a pure 15% damage increase since it duplicates your harmfull spells without internal CD.
Probably gonna be lowered to about 10%, that and it beeing iLevel 397 already will make it BiS no mather what weapon drops for next patch. Im pretty sure they will want people with legandarys the keep it trough this expansion, the nerf is unlikley about them wanting you to take upgrades.
Im also pretty sure the rogue legendarys will have the same procrate but higher itemlevel wich will make it a bit better but not overpowered compared to it
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Legendary items sure lost it's "legendary" feeling ^^
Exactly
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Im also pretty sure the rogue legendarys will have the same procrate but higher itemlevel wich will make it a bit better but not overpowered compared to it
Gunna b awesum! :-*
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Im also pretty sure the rogue legendarys will have the same procrate but higher itemlevel wich will make it a bit better but not overpowered compared to it
Gunna b awesum!
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Im also pretty sure the rogue legendarys will have the same procrate but higher itemlevel wich will make it a bit better but not overpowered compared to it
Gunna b awesum! :-*
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