Priests WotLK

[delling]

That was on some mob-cast Corruption. I'll go try some double-dispells later

The glyph was a level 19 creation by Crazy... they get a new round of glyphs (1 per class?) every 30 levels or something.

You just right click glyph, then right click a spot in your glyph UI. Nothing else to it, it seems.

We're going to try and see if they are unique later, or if you can have 3 dispell glyphs...

[Raethryn]

I guess you mean with holy spec Kage?
With the current talent Greater heal is hitting 6.4-7k (unbuffed ofc)critting for up to 10k, think I mentioned that in my post on the Ravenous forums. Flash heal is hitting for 2.8-3.2k, critting for ~4.5k. I do believe that the talent isn't finished though - normally talents do not go 2%/1% 4%/2% 6%/3% 8%/4% 40%/20% . In former builds when empowered healing was down at 10%/5% GH was down to 5-5.5k healing, and flash around 2k I think, though I could remember wrong.

On glyphs - does it say if it's a major or minor glyph or has that not really been implemented yet?

Btw Delling, bugged penance is really funny - you can even cast it in shadowform! (both as a damaging and healing effect)

[delling]

Hehe, nice.

Yeah, dispell only heals once, even with 2 debuffs up.

Everything is a major glyph at the moment it seems.

With a full holy spec (and twin disciplines), 1400 spellpower, my GH is landing on me for 8k.

And it's very, very easy to go oom. If I chaincast, I'm oom in a minute or so (faster with the CC proc of course ).

It's 1000 mana don't forget...!

This is in old'ish gear though, and only 507 spirit (715/358 regen, on the character pane).

I don't see the mana ticking back in from Serendipity yet though, which I am sure will help a lot.

[delling]

Oh, and I still think 2 holy priests in a raid is going to be totally OP -- with 2 Guardian Spirits... 2x imp CC (which you can hold onto for a while don't forget -- so proc it, then wait until you need the charges...)

At 80, our heals will be landing for 10k at least, maybe 11-12k.

Guardian Spirit means those will be landing for 15k...

3x 15k in 3 seconds...

Then 2 priests doing that...

I wonder how large Patchwerk's burst will be...

[Raethryn]

With Test of Faith and a target below 50% GH is hitting for ~7.2-8k and critting for 11.5k+, Flash heal is hitting for ~3.3-3.5k, critting for 5.2k+

Delling - Serendipity is not working at all at the moment, I have however tested spam healing once when it was working and, with imp.clearcasting, it was impossible for me to go out of mana. Obviously when the heals will actually be healing someone I'll likely lose some mana, but then that's what raid buffs, innervates and mana batteries are for .

Also 8k? Is that the lvl 70 rank or a higher one? I have 1400 spell power and full holy spec also.

[delling]

That's rank 8 -- 3200-3400 base or so.

Final rank is 4000ish I think, at 80.

Basically, our heals are going to double in size (base), and then some from the additional +healing, conditional extras, guardian spirit...

I guess Serendipity will be pretty good, but not that good. We'll still be casting COH a lot, but it'll help on those 'incoming burst' moments on tanks, I guess.

Right now I drop about 30% mana on Brutallus when I give it all I have on a particuarly bad stomp!

[Raethryn]

All depends on what you're healing naturally, but we'll just have to wait til 80 to see. When I was testing it out earlier it gave full mana back with clearcasting procs, which is what made it impossible to run oom.

[delling]

Haha, I had forgotten about CC proc + mana return...

If that stays in, it will be amazing indeed

[Otori]

Yust to comment on the VT Nerf/buff (who knows lol).
Felt really slow atm, dunno if that is cause im yust to get the mana back from MF right away or if it got to do with some regen change.
Or this is a selution to the more moving oriented fights that probbly will show up in the upcoming instances. Eather way its hard to point and tell without that big mana pool we should be abel to see later on.

But mind seer much awesome and bug with no knockback damage on SW:D FTW!

 

[Raethryn]

What's the damage like on mind sear? Does it have a cool visual effect?

[Raethryn]

By the way I've been taking a little look at dispersion today, did you know that it's not dispellable?

Unfortunately this spell, like Guardian Spirit, does not work on fall damage

Oh and have you tested to see if they forgot the offensive side to the dispel glyph and made so that you heal even if you are offensively dispelling?
And does the heal effect work on mass dispel, or only on dispel?

[delling]

Ya, would suck if it was dispellable!

I found out about Guardian Spirit not blocking fall damage back in early alpha.

That was back when I had a blue post saying it was intended to be a 10 second cheat death...

Sadly it's now back to the 'block 1 killing blow'...

Just tested dispells -- MD doesn't proc the heal. Offensive dispelling doesn't proc the heal. So just dispelling debuffs, with Dispell. We're gonna be sooo anti-warlock...

Mind Sear has a funky 'pond ripple' purple graphic. Shadowy pond ripples.

[Nachmanun]

Well, with SL being so low in Demo, most locks will be UA anyways dell, so not THAT much of an anti :3

[Raethryn]

If they have loads of dots/debuffs up and they're only on one target, unless you're expecting a burst or something I think it is worth it to dispel even now, if you're gonna be healing the target too it's definitely worth the risk... so long as you / the one you're dispelling knows how to avoid damage for a bit ofc .

[Raethryn]

We'll be increasing Mind Flay's coefficient (base) by roughly 30% to start, and allow Mind Flay to crit. We may also do some tuneups to the Shadow tree as well, but as other players have mentioned the tree is really not the problem, just the base spells not scaling.

Hopefully we can get the new Mind Flay in the next build, but allowing it to crit involves rebuilding the spell completely, which may take some time.