Are people still dotaing..?

[Shalala]

i'll play with you B guys np :)

edit: douche whines all the time whatever he plays in whatever game, you'll learn to ignore it in time :P

[Douchebag]

I hate to point this out, but the SCEC crew isn't all that good.  He's good enough to play with us.

While I wasn't playing the game... he was complaining on vent that his character was shit and that was why he was failing.

Playing as Leoric.

Was just buying the wrong items, when I stopped buying the wrong ones I stopped sucking

[Palmar]

I'm a bit better than when we played last time Hugman.

I think we could fit together a decent team...

Bison/Palmar/Hugman/Grilly/Gozhell

or something like that...

Just let me pick/captain/tellyouwheretostand and we'll be fine.

[Sparrowhawk]

Have played with Theel, hes pro at dota. You could ask him for B team :P

[Lotinja]

Im up for boosting the B-ranks if needed!

Missed playing dota with you guys. Might not be as "Lotinja's forest" (See what i did there Dell!) like as I have been before though. Havent played it much.

[Shalala]

I hate to point this out, but the SCEC crew isn't all that good.  He's good enough to play with us.

While I wasn't playing the game... he was complaining on vent that his character was shit and that was why he was failing.

Playing as Leoric.

Was just buying the wrong items, when I stopped buying the wrong ones I stopped sucking

I withdraw this statement, im rephrasing, douche sucks balls, but when you tell him what to buy he miraculously kicks ass...i think you would be a great player if you would play the thing long enough to get the perfect touch, awareness, last hitting skillz and ganking, good luck !

[Douchebag]

I hate to point this out, but the SCEC crew isn't all that good.  He's good enough to play with us.

While I wasn't playing the game... he was complaining on vent that his character was shit and that was why he was failing.

Playing as Leoric.

Was just buying the wrong items, when I stopped buying the wrong ones I stopped sucking

I withdraw this statement, im rephrasing, douche sucks balls, but when you tell him what to buy he miraculously kicks ass...i think you would be a great player if you would play the thing long enough to get the perfect touch, awareness, last hitting skillz and ganking, good luck !

More or less exactly on the spot!

I also liek Viper.

[Hugman]

I also liek Viper.

FILTHY RIGHT CLICKER!

[Douchebag]

I also liek Viper.

FILTHY RIGHT CLICKER!

But if I go leoric I'm then called a filthy stun team!

[Cwave]

Tiny Leoric Slardar and Nerubian in one team....

I dare you to say that isnt retarded  :o

[Hugman]

I also liek Viper.

FILTHY RIGHT CLICKER!

But if I go leoric I'm then called a filthy stun team!

Well that was because your team had four heros with stuns, leoric, naga, tiny, and nerub ass; and went around in groups of 5 going LOL-IMPALE-AVALANCHE-NAGATHING-HELLFIRE-LOL, on defenceless treekin. Then whooping on vent like that 5 on 1 stunrapage was some co-ordinated skillfest.

Leoric and Viper are eazymode heros.

Leoric is basicly a "training wheels" hero, with good survivablity, 3 passive skills and a simple, easy stun.

Viper basicly =  farm in woods for a bit, get decent items, right click heros. GG.

If you want to get good, you practice the:

1. 4 ablility, low survivablity heros (mainly int, like queen of pain, or shadow shaman. These heros are only good early and mid game, and therefore you have to do well then, or you become very shit late game.

2. Heros that have what seem like "not very powerful abilities", but if played well give a massive advantage to the team (i.e. Weaver, rooty, etc). Same idea with these, since normally their damage is shit, and they are melee range; you have to do well, to get decent items to do well late game.

3. Heros that require great skill to play, or are totally shit (Pudge, Meepo, Techies), which absolutly dominate early/mid game if played well.

[Douchebag]

I'll try anything really, I just need the guidance on what items to get, I did pretty well with Krob last night (Or well I think I did, even if Cwave was just going for me!)

And I was actually going for Omni last game!

[Hugman]

Yeah Krobs quite good. Shes an early game nuker/late game support.

As for items, well palmar and the rest of us can suggest some, but you need to read the item, and understand why its soo good for that hero.

Dota is one of those games that you have to know ALL of the heros, and all of the item combinations to play well. I generally comes with time, so just play, play, play (even pugs, though you find the games wont last long).

The best thing you can do is go to http://forums.dota-allstars.com/ and go to the hero strats, on the stratergy forums. There you will find strats for all heros, and item guides for them. The premium guides (which are sticky'ed at the top, are perticually awesome, and give excellent sound advice. Pick like 3-4 heros that you like the look of, and read up on them. Then practice, practice, practice.

P.S. if you take Clockwerk, Davion, or Lycro; you are a fag, and take it up the bum.

P.P.S. Usefull link http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=33844&st=0

[Shalala]

www.gosugamers.com
www.mymym.com
www.sk-gaming.com/dota/

gogo watch replays :)

Look for Ks^int (Kingsurf International) reps if you wanna see some mad earlygame ganking... they play all their games fast and go for gaining the edge asap :)

On the other hand if you're into some farming (duuuh) go look for some SK replays and watch Loda farm :P There should be very little playable reps of SK tho, since they've disbanded a while ago and wc3 1.23 went out a little before that.

[Palmar]

ks^int make watching replays interesting... They're so stupidly aggressive.

After reading through some of your replies, the main issue seems to be the inability to counter certain strategies, for example, a team built of:

tiny/slardar/leoric/na is actually a very, very bad team. If the fifth member can solo middle, they're slightly less bad, but still horrible. If you guys picked your team right (harassers/orb-walkers/nukers) they should not have any way of making money in the early game being 4x melee heroes. NA is the only one there that has a strong early laning game, and that's only thanks to mana burn.

In short, you should have destroyed at least one lane and left the stunners without any kind of farm whatsoever. Oh, and if you're up against NA, I hope you warded at least both ends of the river to prevent him from ganking your team repeatedly.