Kagemoff - Priest A - Raid app

[Cwave]

Now it's starting to make sense!

1) Delling wasn't there
2) This leaves a powervoid
3) Popcorn*

[Devlin]

[kagemoth]

Well i can't win an argument against "Those 24 others" by myelf cause "they" have already
decided that i messed up , Cwave. So , i decided to have fun with it after my initial
explanation was dismissed , AND LOOK WHAT I GOT :D

[kawe]

It's understandable to get defensive if you contribute to a wipe or screw up in some way, but to start acting like you're being victimised and becoming completely uncooperative is both counter-productive and tremendously aggravating.

Doing this as you were last night is not helpful to anyone, least of all yourself.

[kagemoth]

"they" have already decided that i messed up

Meaning whatever i say is considered null , even if i'm in the right. I better be careful what buttons i press in the future.
If a dispell can do this then O.M.G i wonder that MASS DISPELL will do...

if you contribute to a wipe

yes.

screw up in some way

no.

And the latter is the one you guys were aiming at.

[Nachmanun]

How do you contribute to a wipe without screwing up?

[Destro]

The drama wasnt needed, however people were getting tired of silly mistakes as finally we had the healers online and it definately felt like a kill was possible, yet we spent 60% of attempts wiping due to peoples inability to learn from their mistakes.

Kage you know id defend you if you were right, and i have kicked up shit before when i thought you were being treated unfairly, but you were definately wrong on this one, although it was hilarious to hear you say the things you did, i was just laughing because i knew that you actually believed the things that you were saying.

You said you compensate for others lack of skill, but look at it from this perspective... you ASSUMED kesh had ran the other way, which means you ASSUMED he was going to do the right thing, and you also stated that you ALWAYS do it that way, and will continue to ALWAYS do it that way, and that everyone else should get better and be like you, however as i wrote in caps above, you ASSUMED that kesh had ran out, which means you didnt look to see if he had, you placed faith and trust in his abilities, which means you werent compensating for his lack of skill (as you would put it) at all.

If you WERE compensating for others inability, you would have span your camera around and checked to see if he had moved out, as then you are leaving no doubt as to whether its safe or not, and im not being big headed, but i saw kesh with the bomb and was thinking oh shit before hand, as he had "bomb on me" in normal chat above his head. I remember thinking oh shit he is gonna get alot of stacks, then he blinked and i thought, ok well it wont be so bad, then BOOM raid wipe.

But we can sit here all day and argue over who is correct and who isnt, but if you can see my examples from an unbiased view, you would see why 24 people were raging and how the things you said just made it worse.

Your not completely at fault though, Kesh could have spoke up on vent and said he had fucked up and not to dispel him, instead of "hoping to god" as he said he was thinking.

Cant mages dispel themselves anyway? if classes can dispel themselves and its not on a cooldown (incase it resists) we should just leave it to them.

OR we could raid like we are supposed to in which everybody has a mic and uses it which is supposed to be a guild requirement, and when they are in position they just ask for a dispel.

oh and...

Your an ass kage, i cant stand you, your the most annoying person ever. Shit player. Really.

Go die Kage.

/trollface

[kagemoth]

Ok perry wins. I lose Sorry guys. I messed up.

[Sertth]

...You've heard that statistic, where some huge percentage of people think they're above average?....

Dunning-Kruger effect

[Nachmanun]

Ok perry wins. I lose Sorry guys. I messed up.

[Cwave]

How do you contribute to a wipe without screwing up?

If you are they only one doing it "right" and the other 24 doing it wrong :)
You didnt do anything wrong but because 24 others were wrong, you wiped them.\

RIGHT KAGE?  :P

[Skymunken]

What did Cheery and Cinn write?

[Intrinsic]

Useless tripe.

[Daekesh]

Cant mages dispel themselves anyway? if classes can dispel themselves and its not on a cooldown (incase it resists) we should just leave it to them.

I can, and do, dispel myself every time!  I wasn't expecting anyone to dispel me at all.  I had run early on the meteor and blinked through the boss with the expectation to dispel myself when I reached the far edge.  I didn't quite make it that far, however.

Ignoring where I actually was, if people are dispelling after a certain time period (say 4 seconds,) then if anyone is even slightly late moving, we'll get bombs in the raid because the dispeller isn't paying attention.  Remind me, what was wiping us in the down phase most of the time?

[Skymunken]

Remind me, what was wiping us in the down phase most of the time?

Oh Oh! I know! I know! It was people getting dispelled/dispelling themselves to close/in the raid!