Mafia - The story of Edgeville - Town Square

[Tyler]

I am flattered that you think I could pull off the massive bluff required for me to be mob. That and I would need to be the godfather to pull it off. This would mean I would never come up red.

I could easily have switched vote from TTaM to Vorte when Grax asked me to at 6-6. If we 2 had done that I probably would have won the game for the mob. (Note here that Grax suggested to me to switch...)

I have taken the lead in finding these mobsters. Not just agreed with others when targets were suggested. You should really trust your instincts on this one. I am not mob, just a simple villager.

Shiftey, cunning as he is, made a massive mistake when he thought we would lynch Vorte. He was so triumphant about it, or getting another split vote. After we have lynched him everything will be much clearer as the only mob role left will be Godfather, assuming he is not the godfather. If he is the godfather he has played his role badly.

[shankski]

Wait Shiftey has voted for himself???

[Vorte]

Yeah, I only just read the rule about the Godfather popping up as blue.. so that only leaves escort as a possiblity for you, if you are mafia.

Either both you and Hug are tricking the shit out of me, or we seem to have a pretty good network going here.

[Nachmanun]

Wait Shiftey has voted for himself???

Yeah he's an idiot. His own ego is more important than the game itself, he doesn't care if he's lynched because as long as he is RIGHT, that's all that matters.

I am flattered that you think I could pull off the massive bluff required for me to be mob. That and I would need to be the godfather to pull it off. This would mean I would never come up red.

Sentences like these are suspicious as hell for me, it's like self-flatter hidden begind modesty.

Shiftey, cunning as he is, made a massive mistake when he thought we would lynch Vorte. He was so triumphant about it, or getting another split vote. After we have lynched him everything will be much clearer as the only mob role left will be Godfather, assuming he is not the godfather. If he is the godfather he has played his role badly.

I'm inclined to agree on this

My gut screams "Shiftey is a mobster" whereas my logic screams "worst villager ever."

At this point my vote is going to Shiftey, but Rucious and Shanksi are also top contenders for suspicious.

[Kawe / Dave]

If we're talking votes, so far today Shiftey has either intentionally or mistakenly made himself look like a very 'safe' lynch given our position. If we vote for him and he's bluffing, we've called it, if he's just being retarded, we lose a green villager and maintain a big numbers advantage while gaining a bit more info. All that said, it's still very early in the day, so we have a lot of time to mull things over.

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

What do people think about archz? Why did the mafia not kill him if he is a blue?

[Shiftey]

Everybody says that I am a terrible villager but I think otherwise, if I can pull so much attention from the mob to me, especially people who are overzealously trying to lynch me and then I'll turn up green, which I will unless I am a miller. Then you'll know who is the mafia and we'll win the game. And since I am a villager, despite being dead, I will win too. I think it's a very clever move from my side.

[Vorte]

What do people think about archz? Why did the mafia not kill him if he is a blue?

They might trust the village to end him as he has played like a drooler. I just hope Arches starts posting his tracker info sometime this century..

[Kawe / Dave]

Arches posting *at all* would be a good start...

[Hugman]

People are wondering why I am supporting Tyler so much. In the spirit of fairness, I should point out a few things.

I am flattered that you think I could pull off the massive bluff required for me to be mob. That and I would need to be the godfather to pull it off. This would mean I would never come up red.

1. You could be the hooker, and still come up red.

   One of the main reasons I have confidence in you not being mob, Tyler, is this. When I came back from work, and found you and Kesh had posted a bunch, I went into total confusion. Up until that point, I was certain both you and Kesh weren't Mob. Then you both said a bunch of stuff which through it into doubt. Right up until half an hour before the votes closed, I was still 50-50 about who to vote for, could have gone either way, Kesh or Vorte. You were one of the main people who pushed it hard, to get Kesh killed. I was taken from 2-3 votes from kesh, and 6 or so for Vorte, to 6 for each, and in the end we got Kesh. You played a big part in that.

  If you are a Townie (which I believe) you did an excellent job, and pushed it through, to get our first mob lynch. Which is one of the main reasons why I support you. If you are Mob, you could have saved Kesh, as before you started pushing, Kesh only had 2-3 votes, and Vorte would have died, and you wouldn't have been incriminated.

However, in fairness there is one more point.

Kesh could have been the miller. In which case you pushed it through, to get a villager killed, and then just lucked out. However, the miller is total rng. Nobody knows who he is, even himself. The chances of being the miller is pretty low, and to work your gameplan on gambling that Kesh is the miller, and then bluffing it afterwards? No, that would be pretty dumb. Nothing I saw indicated that you were expecting to kill kesh, and then be incriminated afterwards. Everything Tyler has done, seems to me, to be spot on, and following a logical and predictable path.

This is why I support Tyler.

[shankski]

My thoughts on the current situation:

Kawe - Like Kesh, I have suspected Kawe from the start. However, as he has said he was a Vet this explains his actions. But, it could just be a clever plan to draw attention away from him.

Shiftey - Well by the looks of his vote for himself I think hes either given up / done a really stupid move.

Vorte - I believed him when he was fighting not to be lynched. Hasn't done anything to change my thoughts on him so I still think he's innocent.

Grax - Still unsure about Grax either way hes playing a very cryptic game.

Hugman - Has kind of swayed me by the information he posted. However, communicating with Kesh (a known Mob) could be quite suspect.

Tyler - Still not sure on Tyler.

Arch - Stayed pretty quiet since people found out he had an important role. Not much has been said / done since then about it. Something not right here imo.


So currently I'm suspicious of: Kawe, Arch, Shiftey

[Hugman]

Right, I am voting for Shiftey.

If Arch remains silent, I am changing it to him, on principle.

COS IF YOU ARE THE FRICKING TRACKER, YOU SPENT 2 DAYS NOT TELLING US SHIT, FUCKFACE!

[Shiftey]

I now realized something. TTaM actually PMed me day 1 that he knows arches is a tracker. Which means he knew from the very beginning which a) is weird how he found out and b) if arches is a tracker and TTaM was a mafia, how the hell is arches still alive?

I am beginning to think that arches might actually be the godfather we are all looking for, he would should up as the tracker if investigated(cause that's the aura mafia built around him and leaked on purpose).

He's also very silent and trying to stay out of harms way, not posting at all. I hope this time I am right.

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

Im up for changing my vote to Archz, its very suspicious.

[Tyler]

Good points Hug. The idea that we accidentally lynched the miller for our first lynch is pretty funny. We all know Kesh was guilty, he posted too many pics.

Shiftey is desperate. He knows he messed up. I didn't suspect him until the "Why would I do that?" post about changing to Kesh. The scales where lifted from my eyes at that point. He made that post in a hurry and forgot to stick to his "We don't/can't know anything. LYNCH RANDOM DUDE!" persona. Why on earth would he refuse to change vote to Kesh unless he was mob? It's clear as day.

I now trust Vorte and Kawe. They have revealed their roles, if they were lying they could be investigated. Vorte you should investigate Kawe just to be sure. Your role is now to check villager claims. The doc should still protect Vorte. If Vorte was lying the cop would have investigated him.

I also trust Hug. This is more of a leap of faith, but I don't think he has it in him to lie to me and every one else so consistently.

Now for the suspects in order (after Shiftey ofc).

Arches has played so randomly I have no clue. I would proably lynch him after Shiftey. Grax makes a good point wondering why he hasn't been whacked yet? Maybe the mob aren't scared of trackers. Tracker is a great role for tracking down a godfather though...

Nach has also played a bit randomly. Should have voted for TTaM. I still think he is a ninja.

Grax. Now Grax might have played a blinder. He tried to get me to switch to Vorte at 6-6. He may have voted for TTaM early to cover his tracks later in the game when Vorte was revealed as a cop. The whole mob strategy could be to make Grax, the godfather, difficult to suspect. If the mob were clever one of them would appear in TTaM's mafia image.