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 Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!



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September 13, 2010, 04:41:57 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #135 on: September 13, 2010, 04:41:57 pm »
Me getting horribly outplayed by Mike....

HALP!

Righty, having just watched it, there's quite a few reasons that you got smashed in the end. I started listing them out in chronological order, but it actually boils down to a couple of things you consistently do badly:

1. Pumping SCVs. These are the times that you are not building any workers, dispite having the money and supply for it:
4:36 to 5:15
5:56 to 7:34 THIS IS 1½ MINUTES!!!
8:13 to 8:50
In total this is nearly three minutes out of eight that you are not making SCVs. You could've had 10 more workers @9 minutes if you remembered this better.

2. Spending your resources and not being supply blocked. When you attack with your marines into his main, your production does nothing. @6 minutes, you sit on 500min/400gas that does nothing because you're supply capped at 35/35. The same thing happens @9 minutes, where you have 1000/800 and is still supply blocked at 35/35.

3. Scout/scan. Your first scout didn't see his expansion and just stood still at his ramp for ages. Apart from your attacks, you never looked at his main again, and spent all your energy on MULEs. You have to know what he's doing so you can prepare/act. Mike didn't even hide his spire, so you had every opportunity to see it and act accordingly. Not scan/scouting results in you blindly attacking and then suiciding your units into him.

TL;DR version:


1. ALWAYS build SCVs.
2. Stop getting supply blocked.
3. Scout or at least scan.
4. BUILD MORE SHIT.

PS. @12:40 While you already lost at this point, seing your tanks massacre half your army is kindda fun :P
Feral, a class of its own.

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September 13, 2010, 05:24:27 pm
Reply #136

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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #136 on: September 13, 2010, 05:24:27 pm »
I only use the the energy on CC for mule and then only scans, this time I didnt cause I knew what he was doing, he was doing same thing over and over again for like 20 games and I was trying to beat it. Rest I know, I always get supply blocked, I forget about it, I always had a bad memory to remember all of that.

September 13, 2010, 09:12:10 pm
Reply #137

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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2010, 09:12:10 pm »
So you knew he was going muta, and went for siege tank? That makes no sense.

Either way, the TL;DR says it all, you could get away with not doing number three, provided you keep doing the others well.
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September 13, 2010, 11:28:51 pm
Reply #138

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« Reply #138 on: September 13, 2010, 11:28:51 pm »
My idea was to kill him before he'd get them :P As you can see it didnt work

September 14, 2010, 05:17:51 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2010, 05:17:51 pm »
Well, I didn't want to mention it, but when you attack early, kill his probes. Taking out the roach warren and then trying to kill the pool makes no sense when you could've raped lots of drones and a queen.
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September 14, 2010, 06:14:52 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #140 on: September 14, 2010, 06:14:52 pm »
Well, I didn't want to mention it, but when you attack early, kill his probes. Taking out the roach warren and then trying to kill the pool makes no sense when you could've raped lots of drones and a queen.

Pretty much it. The game would've been won quite handily if Shiftey just went for the drones/queen instead of the buildings. How Mike thought 2 lings vs double rax opener was enough will forever puzzle me :)

September 14, 2010, 06:25:13 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #141 on: September 14, 2010, 06:25:13 pm »
We're all bad. This is me imitating shiftey as he cries about mutalisks
[22:27] <Globox> I cry when I clean my left ear with a q-tip

September 15, 2010, 06:48:15 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #142 on: September 15, 2010, 06:48:15 pm »
I just can't stop laughing!
I'm so horrible!

But atleast, by losing horribly like this - I atleast know that will never happen again.
SK?R DIG, SK?R DIG F?R FAN. SK?R DIG TILLS DU D?R.

September 15, 2010, 06:58:54 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #143 on: September 15, 2010, 06:58:54 pm »
Oh man, nice one Nach  ;D

September 15, 2010, 08:30:47 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #144 on: September 15, 2010, 08:30:47 pm »
That is a fucking cute dog!
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September 17, 2010, 11:57:41 am
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #145 on: September 17, 2010, 11:57:41 am »
I could really use some tips at surviving the initial push as zerg. Is it really just due to the fact I didn't use the queen for ~30-40sec over a 9min period?

Also I'm high on minerals towards the end, but only have 4 larvae. What do you spend the minerals usefully to keep it low and move into mid/end game? a couple of spiner crawlers? but that would only be 200-400 minerals. Should I already have been moving up to hydra's/muta.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2010, 12:00:39 pm by Yoica »

September 17, 2010, 03:46:31 pm
Reply #146

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« Reply #146 on: September 17, 2010, 03:46:31 pm »
Played couple of games against Devlin, trying different things. And I am starting to like one of the builds :P

Here are our replays of all 5 games we played, feel free to comment and tell me I suck at random amount of things.

September 17, 2010, 05:58:17 pm
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« Reply #147 on: September 17, 2010, 05:58:17 pm »
Here are two ladder games I just finished. The one on Metalopolis is vs Terran and the one on Steppes is vs Protoss.

The Steppes game was pretty funny, loads of back and forth and near-death experiences!
In the Metalopolis game I tried to focus on my macro, but failed greatly in spending my resources.

If anyone of you got time to spare, I would very much appreciate if you could point out ALL (I mean any and every little thing you notice) the wrong things I do in either/both games. I am very aware that I suck at spending resources and that's something I'm working on. Definitely my biggest flaw atm. Inputs would be very helpful!

September 18, 2010, 07:22:59 pm
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« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2010, 07:22:59 pm »
Did some zvz vs Kage earlier today and I learned quite a lot even though I lost them all.

Here's one of the games we played. Pretty even most of the time with some back and forth action, except in the lategame where my macro failed. Close spawns on lost temple made me feel too constricted in my movement, so I fell into passive mode :( Anyways, take a look if you're interested!

September 18, 2010, 07:45:09 pm
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Re: Your imba starcraft 2 replays here!
« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2010, 07:45:09 pm »
I could really use some tips at surviving the initial push as zerg. Is it really just due to the fact I didn't use the queen for ~30-40sec over a 9min period?

Also I'm high on minerals towards the end, but only have 4 larvae. What do you spend the minerals usefully to keep it low and move into mid/end game? a couple of spiner crawlers? but that would only be 200-400 minerals. Should I already have been moving up to hydra's/muta.

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Right, I always run the risk of really hurting people when I do this.... this is what I wrote down while watching the video.

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00:00 - first build drone, then split
00:35 - drone 9, slightly late
00:50 - overlord slightly late
01:20 - drones 11-12 slightly late
01:25 - drone 13 is built at 1:44 instead of here, 20 sec late
02:36 - this drone is very late
02:40 - should have built an overlord imo
03:15 - short supply cap
03:31 - late drones

---- you still haven't scouted with a drone.

gonna be more general from now on.

around 5:00 are you ging to do anything with all those minerals?

Why another queen?

that roach warren was soooooooooooo late.

around 6:00, what are all those larvae doing?

700 mineals, 6 larvae

send that scouting overlord in....

epic supply block somewhere in the seventh minute.

at 7:00 you're at 1000 minerals... you deserve to lose at this point.

another supply block somewhere in the 8th minute.

1000 minerals still at 8:00, spend some of that shit

throughout the game you have not used your larvae.

9:00 1300 minerals, fuckton of larvae. Really, that's a recipe for disaster.

and who would've thought, he steamrolls you beause you have 2000 minerals at 10:00

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