Your thoughts

[legintown]

What about the other way around Auran? Manipulation of the mind that everything is good and green. A certain country did that some 60 years ago, but they can't be mentioned cuz some all-knowing "god" has said so.

[Cwave]

Wait,
you godwin'd again?

:D

PS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

[Starbrow]

Well I strike back at claims that are incorrect. If some1 insisted that the color red was actually white, and you said no, its red, but the person kept telling you that it is white, even though you know for a fact, that it is red, wouldnt you start to think omg?

Wrong. We're not discussing some extremely simple matter, but in fact something that is extremely complicated. Just because I happen to think something (that color is red!) I does not instantly mean I am correct no matter what, even if that is what I percieve. This is what you are getting wrong. I can accept that others have different views on how things look, and that you have your beliefs when it comes to 9/11. You, however, seem to be incapable of accepting other views.

[Peikko]

Not gonna take part of this conversation, but know this! http://youareretarded.ytmnd.com/

sorry..  8)

[Narco]

Just realised Cwave linked research by the very school I belong to in the University of Manchester (school of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Civil Engineering [MACE]) and I can thoroughly assure you theyre all conspiracy theorising genetically enhanced super ninja vampires, who are actually the real source of the 9/11 attacks.

Knowing people would research the structural integrity of steel after the bombardment of incorrect theories the super ninja vampires decided to specifically set out to prove them wrong. But why? It didn't matter, as long as it showed that MACE was -against- conspiracy theories no one would suspect them of the diabolical act.

While brilliantly executed and covered up they didn't suspect that I, Malik, would uncover their scheme by idly perusing over Facebook and discovering all of the information had been explained in a suspiciously explicit conversation held on two of my tutors message walls! I didn't need any more convincing, I knew deep down they were super ninja vampires, but I just didn't want to accept it. No one would have believed me had I told anyone, so I've kept it a secret until now.

The real reason the buildings collapsed was because the super ninja vampires were but a small time construction company (the deceptively named Super Ninja Vampires Construction Co.) asked to help build the World Trade centre, but even back then their anger and lust for world domination was strong, so using state of the art ninja vampire technology they installed a ninja vampire trap door at the base of the towers' foundation, un-noticed for decades, that would open at their command.

So you see, the towers didnt collapse, when the plane hit them the super ninja vampires activated the trap door and the twin towers fell into a perfectly sized hole with a giant net at the bottom that would catch the falling towers, which also explains why it was said to be at freefall speeds. Currently MACE are rebuilding the towers a few kilometres below the surface, forming them into the MACE-SuperBase where they will be able to reign tyranny on the unsuspecting world, and one by one my classmates were transformed into brick laying octopus-owl hybrids so that they could work on the underground MACE-SuperBase. I fear I'll be next, I might not have long...


My actual opinion is that I have no strong feeling one way or the other

[legintown]

Wrong. We're not discussing some extremely simple matter, but in fact something that is extremely complicated. Just because I happen to think something (that color is red!) I does not instantly mean I am correct no matter what, even if that is what I percieve. This is what you are getting wrong. I can accept that others have different views on how things look, and that you have your beliefs when it comes to 9/11. You, however, seem to be incapable of accepting other views.

Well actually science isn't a matter of belief, but pure fact. You can believe that diesel or jet fuel can melt or weaken steel to the point of collapse all you want, but it still doesn't.
Funny that you say that I can't accept others views, since no1 has slighty agreed on some of the things I've said, making them just as "guilty". I at least dont write about vampires, or that virgin loving, mindless fanatic arabs are behind it, which is the mainstream manipulated narrow view.

[Cwave]

Funny that you say that I can't accept others views, since no1 has slighty agreed on some of the things I've said, making them just as "guilty". I at least dont write about vampires, or that virgin loving, mindless fanatic arabs are behind it,

The fact that noone has agreed with you does not equal that we all cant agree to other peoples views. Maybe(maybe, see i leave room open for other views/thinking) your view is so weird or wrong in THEIR opinion, it is hard to agree with? Think before posting.

You are the reason noone has agreed since you starting screaming stfu and doing godwins from the start. So everyone just went in to proof you wrong and show that you suck at debating.(which you really need to work on, stfu does not help)

which is the mainstream manipulated narrow view.

You just did it again.... someone who has a different view or other sources of information(university, goverment, etc)is NOT NARROWMINDED AND MANIPULATED.
If anyone, its you who is acting like a damn fanatic.

Quote from bash.org

<Sword_Saint> God, I hate conspiracy theorists
<Sword_Saint> I almost wish they were right
<Sword_Saint> so the government would abduct and kill them
<Sword_Saint> and shut them the fuck up

C "bored @ work" wave

[Grishnag]

My actual opinion is that I have no strong feeling one way or the other

THATS MY LINE DAMN IT

[delling]

Well, I loved Malik's response to the situation.

And I for one can not wait to see the brick laying octopus-owl hybrids in action.

In fact, I bet the planes were hijacked by beta versions of the brick laying octopus-owl hybrids.

[Auran]

Omg... took me an hour to read all the replies.

Yes, Leg, it works the other way around as well...however, and that brings me indeed to the point of what you belief in, is the truth. Therefore sometimes, facts don't matter. In fact, believing is accepting an scientifically unproven truth.
However:

Well actually science isn't a matter of belief, but pure fact.

Is not entirely true. A fact is based on acceptance. Of course, you cannot put aside some stone old facts - ice melts at 0 degrees - but a lot of science is based on statistics. And statistics on itself... well.. is some kind of belief. Set the acceptance base (p) and decide whether or not to accept the findings as true or false.

My point: the 'facts' around the Twin Towers affair is not yet a solid scientifically proven fact, and therefore relies on a person's belief to decide what's true and what's false. Therefore I belief the conspiracy theories to be false, but as you already stated the opposite might as well be as much true.

I hope this piece of text makes practically logically sense as a I've written it fast between two bites of bread during lunch :D
But maybe it's useful for your experiment, LEg! GL!

Aur.

[kawe]

Just realised Cwave linked research by the very school I belong to in the University of Manchester (school of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Civil Engineering [MACE]) and I can thoroughly assure you theyre all conspiracy theorising genetically enhanced super ninja vampires, who are actually the real source of the 9/11 attacks.

Knowing people would research the structural integrity of steel after the bombardment of incorrect theories the super ninja vampires decided to specifically set out to prove them wrong. But why? It didn't matter, as long as it showed that MACE was -against- conspiracy theories no one would suspect them of the diabolical act.

While brilliantly executed and covered up they didn't suspect that I, Malik, would uncover their scheme by idly perusing over Facebook and discovering all of the information had been explained in a suspiciously explicit conversation held on two of my tutors message walls! I didn't need any more convincing, I knew deep down they were super ninja vampires, but I just didn't want to accept it. No one would have believed me had I told anyone, so I've kept it a secret until now.

The real reason the buildings collapsed was because the super ninja vampires were but a small time construction company (the deceptively named Super Ninja Vampires Construction Co.) asked to help build the World Trade centre, but even back then their anger and lust for world domination was strong, so using state of the art ninja vampire technology they installed a ninja vampire trap door at the base of the towers' foundation, un-noticed for decades, that would open at their command.

So you see, the towers didnt collapse, when the plane hit them the super ninja vampires activated the trap door and the twin towers fell into a perfectly sized hole with a giant net at the bottom that would catch the falling towers, which also explains why it was said to be at freefall speeds. Currently MACE are rebuilding the towers a few kilometres below the surface, forming them into the MACE-SuperBase where they will be able to reign tyranny on the unsuspecting world, and one by one my classmates were transformed into brick laying octopus-owl hybrids so that they could work on the underground MACE-SuperBase. I fear I'll be next, I might not have long...


My actual opinion is that I have no strong feeling one way or the other

I support this theory wholeheartedly, and propose we make it known to all that it is FACT.

[Grilldyret]

Just realised Cwave linked research by the very school I belong to in the University of Manchester (school of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Civil Engineering [MACE]) and I can thoroughly assure you theyre all conspiracy theorising genetically enhanced super ninja vampires, who are actually the real source of the 9/11 attacks.

Knowing people would research the structural integrity of steel after the bombardment of incorrect theories the super ninja vampires decided to specifically set out to prove them wrong. But why? It didn't matter, as long as it showed that MACE was -against- conspiracy theories no one would suspect them of the diabolical act.

While brilliantly executed and covered up they didn't suspect that I, Malik, would uncover their scheme by idly perusing over Facebook and discovering all of the information had been explained in a suspiciously explicit conversation held on two of my tutors message walls! I didn't need any more convincing, I knew deep down they were super ninja vampires, but I just didn't want to accept it. No one would have believed me had I told anyone, so I've kept it a secret until now.

The real reason the buildings collapsed was because the super ninja vampires were but a small time construction company (the deceptively named Super Ninja Vampires Construction Co.) asked to help build the World Trade centre, but even back then their anger and lust for world domination was strong, so using state of the art ninja vampire technology they installed a ninja vampire trap door at the base of the towers' foundation, un-noticed for decades, that would open at their command.

So you see, the towers didnt collapse, when the plane hit them the super ninja vampires activated the trap door and the twin towers fell into a perfectly sized hole with a giant net at the bottom that would catch the falling towers, which also explains why it was said to be at freefall speeds. Currently MACE are rebuilding the towers a few kilometres below the surface, forming them into the MACE-SuperBase where they will be able to reign tyranny on the unsuspecting world, and one by one my classmates were transformed into brick laying octopus-owl hybrids so that they could work on the underground MACE-SuperBase. I fear I'll be next, I might not have long...


My actual opinion is that I have no strong feeling one way or the other

I support Malik's theory.

[Myogoblin]

ok i resisted this post as it was clearly going to be ridiculous but to be honest i prefer it when things were simple! I mean what ever happened to the stay puff marshmellow man invading new york? people forget so easy

[legintown]

Well first of all, I didn't start the negative tone, I avoided it for quite a while despite non-constructive answers.
Second of all, none of you have at all commented on the report i posted, or the picture, or the circumstances of the Pentagon attack, or the picture I posted of the steel columns.
I like a reply like Aurans, it gives solid ground for debate, leaving each option open. However, a cannot understand why people can even comment on the matter when they have not even read the official report(9/11 commission report).

[crazylock]

Just realised Cwave linked research by the very school I belong to in the University of Manchester (school of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Civil Engineering [MACE]) and I can thoroughly assure you theyre all conspiracy theorising genetically enhanced super ninja vampires, who are actually the real source of the 9/11 attacks.

Knowing people would research the structural integrity of steel after the bombardment of incorrect theories the super ninja vampires decided to specifically set out to prove them wrong. But why? It didn't matter, as long as it showed that MACE was -against- conspiracy theories no one would suspect them of the diabolical act.

While brilliantly executed and covered up they didn't suspect that I, Malik, would uncover their scheme by idly perusing over Facebook and discovering all of the information had been explained in a suspiciously explicit conversation held on two of my tutors message walls! I didn't need any more convincing, I knew deep down they were super ninja vampires, but I just didn't want to accept it. No one would have believed me had I told anyone, so I've kept it a secret until now.

The real reason the buildings collapsed was because the super ninja vampires were but a small time construction company (the deceptively named Super Ninja Vampires Construction Co.) asked to help build the World Trade centre, but even back then their anger and lust for world domination was strong, so using state of the art ninja vampire technology they installed a ninja vampire trap door at the base of the towers' foundation, un-noticed for decades, that would open at their command.

So you see, the towers didnt collapse, when the plane hit them the super ninja vampires activated the trap door and the twin towers fell into a perfectly sized hole with a giant net at the bottom that would catch the falling towers, which also explains why it was said to be at freefall speeds. Currently MACE are rebuilding the towers a few kilometres below the surface, forming them into the MACE-SuperBase where they will be able to reign tyranny on the unsuspecting world, and one by one my classmates were transformed into brick laying octopus-owl hybrids so that they could work on the underground MACE-SuperBase. I fear I'll be next, I might not have long...


My actual opinion is that I have no strong feeling one way or the other

I support Malik's theory.