Mafia - The story of Edgeville - Town Square

[kawe]

I guess you didn't read my previous post :/

[Vorte]

I'm pretty sure that log implies that one of you is Mafia.  I don't think it's Arch.

What part of "blame-game" did you not catch? Yes, arches does here imply I am the mafia. That was the entire point of finding it, to show hugman what he thought he remembered!

[Daekesh]

I'm not referring to Arches.  I'm referring to Empty.  I'm pretty sure he would have said if you were both on the same team.

[Vorte]

I'm not referring to Arches.  I'm referring to Empty.  I'm pretty sure he would have said if you were both on the same team.

Why would he? I've explained in detail how this game works to emptyy, he'll probably join in next round, don't see why he'd want to ruin the game "just like that". I also happen to be living with Emptyy, he didn't even ask me what I was, I had told him while I was explaining him the game, hours before Arches started pointing fingers with his crooked hand.

Arches really has to come speak his mind though..

[Hugman]

What part of "blame-game" did you not catch? Yes, arches does here imply I am the mafia. That was the entire point of finding it, to show hugman what he thought he remembered!

Ah ok Vorte. Yeah I do remember some of that you posted, though you could have just left out some of your accusations toward Arches out.

So just to clarify, so I can have a clear picture, Did you accuse Arches of being Mafia yesterday?

(hands Vorte some more rope)

[Grishnag]

Arches did mention on TS yesterday evening that he had emptyy snooping around... basicly ruining the game by having someone who isnt playing the game helping him

i'd say LYNCH HIM
i sound like shiftey now

[Daekesh]

I think we can class Emptyy as a travelling minstrel that passed through the town.  However, as we know, bards were often rogue of nature!

[Vorte]

What part of "blame-game" did you not catch? Yes, arches does here imply I am the mafia. That was the entire point of finding it, to show hugman what he thought he remembered!

Ah ok Vorte. Yeah I do remember some of that you posted, though you could have just left out some of your accusations toward Arches out.

So just to clarify, so I can have a clear picture, Did you accuse Arches of being Mafia yesterday?

(hands Vorte some more rope)

I'm pretty sure I did not, I can't find it in logs atleast.. If I did, it was in a manner of checking how he'd react to being accused. I'm pretty set in my trains of thought, so what I've pospted today about Arches stands.

[Hugman]

Right, back to the others, while I await Gaieos and Arches response.

Shiftey: Don't really know about this guy either way. Most of his responses, and Irc drivel, seems to be just "blah blah, said this, LYNCH HIM!". Which either tells me he's a bad mobster, or a suicidal townie.

TTAM: Originally I suspected Kesh, as he was very defensive on the forums, but the rapid bandwagon jumping voting on him day one, kinda cooled my mob suspicions of him. Of late Vorte has made several accusations about him, but they don't hold much weight. Could be either, gonna go with focusing on the more obvious mobsters, and turn my attention back to him later.

Kawe. Kawe is a dark horse. He does post and irc chat, but its very restrained. Too quiet. Not quite as bad as Grish, Dell and Shankski. But definitely in the "to be watched" category.

Gaieos. Gaieos is a player. Intelligent and vocal enough to be either a good townie, a clever mobster, or a insidious ninja. If he is a townie, he needs to contribute in logical discussion more. "to be watched".

  Tyler. Amusingly enough, I now suspect Tyler far less of being a mobster, then most others. After my first couple of random accusations on the first day clipped him, he responded very aggressively, and went for the kill on me. This obviously got me extremely suspicious of him, and until the votes got changed (and he held to his guns) late the first day, he was my number one suspicion to be mobster. Looking back, had our positions been switched, I likely would have done exactly the same thing as him. He also waited to see who would be the 2nd and third votes on me (normally the mob jumpers) and correctly identified Cwave. Also he said this: "Non-posters are the ones we wanna lynch first.", which from a town winning point of view, is spot on. A quiet townie, is a liability to us, a noisy mobster is a liability to them. He is either a excellent townie, or a incredibly devious mobster.

Nach. Lurks in the "too quiet" group, while still playing out the quirks in his personality. "to be watched"

Shankski. Very suspicious. Having spent a lot of time in the B-raid, its clear he is a team player. Yet has been very quiet, and not active enough as a townie in contributing towards getting a confirmed Mob lynch. Likely a ninja, or a mobster. Needs to speak up or damm himself.

Dell. Ah Delling, playing his usual "lets hold back on acting, until I have a clear advantage, while coming up with excuses, not making direct accusations and being friendly towards everyone" game that he always does. Definitely not a normal townie. Either a ninja, blue or mobster.

Vorte. I have almost 100% worked out what Vorte is. I will post more when 100% certain.

Rucious. He's an odd one. Got accused early, and was forced to mainly post in the defensive. I suspect though, had he not been accused, he would have just lurked in the quiet group. Not enough data, which could damm him. "to be watched".

Cwave. Mobster. Very little doubt. Starts with trivial posts about "respect for Palmar" and other such roleplaying drivel, which gets him on the board (so he seems to be contributing, while not too quiet), but actually contributes nothing. Then after me and Tyler kick off, he jumps on to voting me, with out much evidence, or posting to back it up. So far, has made a decent amount of posts, but they don't contribute towards the town exposing someone, nor show openly his game plan (which you would do, if you were a townie) or any sort of logical progression.

Grishnag. Too quiet. Has started to realise it. Apart from his last post, Grish could be Ezzardo, which means I'll wait until tomorrow to see if he gets hanged. If he doesn't... Mafioso. Otherwise, to watch how he responds to this. "to be watched"

[Hugman]

Kawe just pointed out a retard mistake by me.

Grishnag. Too quiet. Has started to realise it. Apart from his last post, Grish could be Ezzardo, which means I'll wait until tomorrow to see if he gets hanged. If he doesn't... Mafioso. Otherwise, to watch how he responds to this. "to be watched"

Should be:

Grishnag. Too quiet. Has started to realise it. Apart from his last post, Grish could be Ezzardo, which means I'll wait until tomorrow to see if he gets mob killed. If he doesn't... Mafioso. Otherwise, to watch how he responds to this. "to be watched"

[kawe]

I don't entirely agree on the quiet ones being the ones to consider as threats though like you said wiht Tyler, Globox and Ezzardo were both really quiet.

[delling2]

Hah, it's a little bit shocking to have my entire strategy outlined by you, Hugman... it's like I've been stripped naked for all to see (and laugh at!)

I will try to be more active.

In my opinion, Archz or Vorte (or both), and Cwave, are mobsters. I'm undecided about Grax. Shankski is being very weird -- probably a mobster (or just... being weird).

I'm not actually analysing what everyone has said, though (I can't keep up). I'm playing more of a meta game -- tallying up everyone else's observations, and working it out from there.

[delling2]

We really should decide on Archz OR Vorte for lynching, by the way.

Would anyone miss Archz? (I don't mind shifting to Vorte, either.)

[delling2]

We also need to find out the information that our super-villagers learnt last night. Did our cop find out anything interesting?

Basically, whoever the cop is, you need to pick someone who you trust to be a villager... and say what you found out :)

[Hugman]

Just to clarify a basic rule:

 The more the mob talks, the more likely we are to expose their game plan, expose them, and then make a clean mob lynch.

 The more a townie talks, the more we can establish (based on their actions, posts, and consistency to an action) that you are who you say you are, and not lose people silly to lynches.

The mob knows who the mob is, and therefore has a massive advantage. However, since they know this, and they plan together, it becomes more obvious to the town, when people change actions or act inconsistently, that this is likely to be the mob gameplan shifting, due to deaths and suspicions raised against them.

The best thing you can to as a townie, is be open, constistant, and make post logically explaining why you do what you do.

tl.dr:

more posting = higher chance of town winning.

less posting = higher chance of mob winning.