Mafia - The story of Edgeville - Town Square

[Rucious]

It's hard for me to vote Shiftey, while I suspect Grax and shanks as well. I don't know why I would vote him since he was indeed sure that TTaM was mob as well and gave his all opinions to lynch him. I'm too confused to whom I should vote for. Tyler you really do play your game well, what if you're at the end going to backstab us?

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

I find it odd that you suspect me to be the godfather when I have been supporting theories against the three known mafia. Cwave, Grish and TTaM. But hey I might just have wanted to lose. Or do you think that I wanted to just be the last mafia standing? It would make a little sense if you thought I was the ninja but I cant see the logic in me being the godfather, my job would be to avoid getting mobsters lynched.

It does indicate to me that my vote for arches might be right.

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

If these are clever mobsters they are turning this vote in to a villager vs villager vote.
If my absense from posting yesterday evening has sparked this and you are just oblivious villagers then I guess it was a bad move, but today I really have to get some work done.

Since Im still in doubt about Shiftey I would rather change my vote to him than sacrifice myself.

[Tyler]

I fear I am spamming this thread too much, so I am going to summarise my position again.

I believe Shiftey is mob because he flat out refused to change vote to TTaM at 6-6 in the previous round. He offered no reasoning for not changing, and had previously asked me to switch to Vorte as "he is the only one we will get a majority for".

Now we know that TTaM was mob. We are fairly sure that Vorte is a cop. The priority order for suspecting people as mafia goes like this

1) People who voted for Vorte
2) People who didn't vote for TTaM
3) People who voted for TTaM
4) People who switched to TTaM before there was a majority for him.

You have to have _very_ good reason not to follow this order. For example I believe Kawe was afk during the last hours, and previously had been keeping a low profile.

Rucious: Remember how I came to the A-Raid channel to get you to vote for TTaM. Please trust me again on this one and we will get another mobster.

Vorte: do you not remember Shiftey asking for everyone to lynch you? He pushed very hard. You need a really good reason to ignore that. Do you remember how you managed to talk me round when I initially suspected you? And then how I altered my vote at 2-6 to start the train of events to save you from TTaM?

Grax:You have said yourself that at least one of the mafia would not have voted for TTaM. In fact I'm sure you know that one mob following the village vote is the best strategy. As for accusing Cwave and Grish, I don't remember anything strong. We ofc never got to vote on that. I am not saying you are mob for certain, just that your actions could be consistent with being mafia.

If anyone wants a PM to explain anything let me know. I shouldn't spam the thread so much. We will need all 6 remaining villagers to vote unanimously to get a mob lynch. (That is how close we were to the edge of losing when people were going to vote for Vorte!)

[Rucious]

Well, I think you got me there, Tyler. I'm gonna listen to you this time too.

[Tyler]

Cool Rucious

Since Im still in doubt about Shiftey I would rather change my vote to him than sacrifice myself.

And yet you still haven't changed your vote... Let's see you tried to get me to change to Vorte last round. You changed from Shiftey (priority group 1) to Arches (group 4) this round...

The jig is up Grax. So here are the final standings

Villagers:
Me
Hugman
Kawe
Vorte
Rucious
Arches

Mafia:
Shiftey
Graxlos

Ninja:
Nach
Shank

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

I did explain my reasoning behind it to you and as you might remember i didnt change my own vote to vorte. I said that in case of a stalemate situation I would change my vote, I cant grasp why you find that so weird and keep focusing on it, perhaps you are the ninja we should be looking for.

I had a long discussion with shiftey yesterday that makes me doubt his guilt, and I still dont see the logic in the mafia trying to kill kawe if it is "a known fact" that arches is the tracker, which you seem to believe.

Someone is lying.

[Shiftey]

I believe Shiftey is mob because he flat out refused to change vote to TTaM at 6-6 in the previous round. He offered no reasoning for not changing, and had previously asked me to switch to Vorte as "he is the only one we will get a majority for".

Now we know that TTaM was mob. We are fairly sure that Vorte is a cop. The priority order for suspecting people as mafia goes like this

1) People who voted for Vorte
2) People who didn't vote for TTaM
3) People who voted for TTaM
4) People who switched to TTaM before there was a majority for him.

Same bullshit random argument over and over and over again. I believed genuinly Vorte was a mob and TTaM was less likely. On the other hand, check the fucking thread, I voted and argued day 1 for both TTaM and Cwave. So I, just like Graxlos both got the mobsters right.

Plus you fit the points 3 and 4 in your little priority list. So why not going from there?

If these are clever mobsters they are turning this vote in to a villager vs villager vote.

This is just what is happening right now, cause I am definitely a villager.

Well, I think you got me there, Tyler. I'm gonna listen to you this time too.

Why do you trust him if I proved his previous arguments were made up lies? Is it because he's old man from england and I am some guy from soviet block?

And if Tyler says that Vorte is a confirmed cop, than WHY THE FUCK DO WE IGNORE HIS INVESTIGATION?

Cool Rucious


The jig is up Grax. So here are the final standings

Villagers:
Me
Hugman
Kawe
Vorte
Rucious
Arches

Mafia:
Shiftey
Graxlos

Ninja:
Nach
Shank

This list is wrong, I am plain and simple a villager. Making such lists as arguments is another obvious lie.

perhaps you are the ninja we should be looking for.

I think Tyler fits the profile and his behaviour fits too.

Someone is lying.

Tyler is, clear as day.

[Shiftey]

Okay let's do this. I vote for myself and sacrifice myself to reveal the real threat.

Tyler

So remember then when I get lynched and you see a green villager. You know who to lynch next. Tyler was pushing this so hard and adamantly, it is obvious he has hidden agenda. Lynch him next and villager will get even closer to victory.

Should I be the miller and show up as red when lynch. Bear in mind there is only Escort and Godfather roles left in the game. I would show up as normal mafioso which arent in the game anymore, so in that case you also know that I was a villager and that Tyler was lying to you all along.

Remember all this.

[Vorte]

I'm just gonna leave what I posted on day two http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6113.msg99166#msg99166

It is basically that I understood very early that many would trust you alot, Tyler - and as such I decided to put a fat questionmark on everyone who soaked up whatever you said. I think you and grax have been working together well "without working together" if you catch my drift? This is both consistant with village and mafia - and with only two mafia left... well, it just.. fits.

I'm holding rucious and shank as possibilities for mobsters, but the ninja role seem to fit better for them.

But I see Shiftey is going to sac himself for nothing tonight so.. my one vote for who I believe to be the mafiaboss seems worthless

[Palmar]

Mod note:

I'm thinking about this next night only lasting 18 hours (ending at 18:00 friday CEST) and the following day only lasting 30 hours (Starting 18:00 friday CEST, and ending 23:59 Saturday evening CEST)

This will introduce a new "late-game" schedule of 30/18 hour days/nights, cutting the day/night cycle from 72 hours to 48 hours.

[Nachmanun]

While you're still here, can you confirm if Mafia still has 1 or 2 kills?

[Palmar]

There is no way for you to know that.

You have two confirmed mafia kills, as all classes flip correctly during night, so that leaves 3/5 mafia.

If TTaM was a miller, they have 2 kills (3/5), but if he was indeed mafiosi, then they only have 1 kill (2/5).

[Nachmanun]

oic

[Rucious]

Well, I think you got me there, Tyler. I'm gonna listen to you this time too.

Why do you trust him if I proved his previous arguments were made up lies? Is it because he's old man from england and I am some guy from soviet block?

That has nothing to do with it lol.