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 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim



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November 21, 2011, 11:58:36 am
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Offline Goza

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #165 on: November 21, 2011, 11:58:36 am »
So, is anyone else playing a standard/destruction mage?

I'm level28, have my main perks in Destruction, secondary stuff in Speech (want to sell my stolen goods), Lockpicking (so many locks), rest spread on Light Armor, OneHanded etc...

Now, does magic dmg scale at all? I can burn the standard mobs since the beginning, no issue. But dungeon bosses (especially magic ones) now become a bit annoying, they hardly take damage while dealing a lot themselves. I have never found a "+magic dmg" item yet, only "less spell cost" or "more mana regen".

So, screw magic, go melee?

November 21, 2011, 12:02:25 pm
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #166 on: November 21, 2011, 12:02:25 pm »
u goto get the summoning shit tree. i saw a guy just chain summoning random creeps while blasting the boss guy from range and that thing tank for him

November 21, 2011, 12:08:56 pm
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« Reply #167 on: November 21, 2011, 12:08:56 pm »
Hmm OK can try that. I have the summoning spells but haven't put perks into it, wasn't sure its worth it or whether your adds suck. Dont see that many useful conjuration perks besides +conjuredDuration, +conjHealth, and maybe the banish thing.

November 21, 2011, 12:10:04 pm
Reply #168

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #168 on: November 21, 2011, 12:10:04 pm »
No, desto spells don't scale.

So late in the game you'll be destroyed 40-50+.

few mods out for it to fix it though

November 21, 2011, 12:12:11 pm
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« Reply #169 on: November 21, 2011, 12:12:11 pm »
There are equipment, potions and enchants that increase that specific magic trees damage or reduce the mana cost of those trees

Personaly I have no problem with dungeons and the bosses in that dungeon cause I just oneshot them with a backstab  I only upgraded my dagger once to flawless and it does 47 damage because of perks
Basicly I Just sneak and backstab if I ever do get in a fight I can't get out of I am able to just summon some atronach and 2 bound swords
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November 21, 2011, 04:27:13 pm
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #170 on: November 21, 2011, 04:27:13 pm »
found this awesome link for those people that wana go "SPLAT hahah where did the mob go"

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1266212-2469-armor-3199-damage-using-smithing-alchemy-enchanting-only-31-perks/

njoy

November 21, 2011, 04:46:23 pm
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« Reply #171 on: November 21, 2011, 04:46:23 pm »
AWESOME O_O ty!

November 21, 2011, 05:46:04 pm
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« Reply #172 on: November 21, 2011, 05:46:04 pm »
the conpanion you get after the Black Stone quest (shes the mage at Azura's shrine) is realy powerfull. Very effective if your playing a melle class.
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November 21, 2011, 06:03:00 pm
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« Reply #173 on: November 21, 2011, 06:03:00 pm »
So i just found my first proper gamebreaking bug. not the crashed i can live with those... but one of the main quests is bugged ( for me atleast)A Cornered Rat is what the quest (its not far in to the main story like 3 quests or something) once you get to the ratway and talk to the guy who has no voice for me and once convince him to open the door... the door never opens

anyway any of you have the same?
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November 21, 2011, 06:03:37 pm
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« Reply #174 on: November 21, 2011, 06:03:37 pm »
That one worked just fine and dandy for me... no idea, sorry

November 21, 2011, 06:12:40 pm
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« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2011, 06:12:40 pm »
well found a fix for it anyway
http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Esbern#Bugs

for anyone that has the same problem as me
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MAIM! KILL! BURN! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

November 21, 2011, 06:13:31 pm
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« Reply #176 on: November 21, 2011, 06:13:31 pm »
@goza re. magic damage:

bethsoft post about it

I would also read through the other thread as well if you want.

Summary post midway through their discussion

    Max armor is 85% 80% mit, which is somewhere between 500-672 armor (one post said ~574 iirc), anything above 672 is useless

    Damage isn't capped really. You can get weapons that do 3-6k dmg (i'm unsure on this number now) without sneak bonus, ancient dragons have 3.1k health

    You can also buff spell damage unlike what many believed. +162% dmg potions can be made, then you can use 2 poisons to maximize the damage. +weakness to poison, followed by a +weakness to shock (or w/e element). Making thunderbolt dual cast do ~1600 dmg here is a link to this post.

Overall, the maximum damage you can possibly do would be with a dual wielding (one handed weapons) orc using berzerker and sneak attacking. I think that is somewhere around 60k dmg iirc, because it was 32.9k dmg sneaking.

So basically, if you make these weapons you'll one / two shot everything. If you get the max armor as well as max magic resist (which is also 85%), you hopefully one won't die in one hit to any enemy even on master. Game becomes trivial.

Personally, I'm not doing this on my main character - it ruins the game imo. Once i play through the game and feel content with having experienced it, i'll probably end up doing this to try it out.

EDIT1 -

For mages - you can also have 0% magicka cost on spells. using these enchants

Then use the above 162% dmg potion for general fights, and the poisons for boss opponents. I'm thinking about doing this in full daedric armor and role-playing as Sauron :P You can still die, (physical dmg resist caps at 80%, so if you aggro a bunch of high level melee mobs and they swarm you, you will still die) but you're pretty much not going to die to anything as long as you are smart about it.

EDIT2 -

Note that the above values of doing 3k dmg in one hit, or 32k backstabs etc are under the effect of a +%weapon dmg potion that lasts 60 seconds. Then the orc berzerker bonus would double that to give you 6k hits for 60 seconds.

Without using any additional potions except the initial ones used to craft the gear, you'd be doing roughly 500-600 damage per hit with these weapons. So the damage shown in OP is likely to be while under the effect of one of these potions, not a permanent value.



Additionally:

shield perks are still valid, and honestly when you're doing 1k dmg every swing you can use whatever weapon you want.

EDIT -- Actually, having a shield is optimal for magic resist because of the perk "elemental protection" which reduces incoming fire, frost, and shock damage by 50%. This stacks with your 85% mitigation. Using this as well as some resist enchantments on your armor / accessories can make spells do virtually no damage to you.

Here is a post by Excessive on the bethsoft forums detailing this.

November 21, 2011, 06:30:05 pm
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #177 on: November 21, 2011, 06:30:05 pm »
Hey, I bought a house off Jorleif in Windhelm for 12k, but I don't know where it is. If anyone knows where it is, please tell me.

November 21, 2011, 07:48:31 pm
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #178 on: November 21, 2011, 07:48:31 pm »
Hey, I bought a house off Jorleif in Windhelm for 12k, but I don't know where it is. If anyone knows where it is, please tell me.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Hjerim

November 21, 2011, 07:50:37 pm
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« Reply #179 on: November 21, 2011, 07:50:37 pm »
Kawe, I'll go for magic resist to mitigate dmg but I think relying on potions to boost magic damage is kinda stupid. Don't potions last like 2mins?

 

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