Mafia II - Story of the Iron Edge - Ship Deck

[Shiftey]

Tronz, you are wrong, you need to read and pay attention. There's one rebel droid left. Kawe got roleblocked on the night 2.

Which btw is something noteworthy. 3 people have questioned kawe's role and thought he may be something different. Those 3 people were Mouseh, Vorte and Archz. Mouseh was dead at the time already. Vorte was not the droid we were looking for. So it wasnt him. Archz is the last left and if he's not the rebel droid or the jedi, I'll be surprised.

[tronz]

ohh i missed that. well atleast something came out of it ^^

this does idd look bad do arches now.

[Archz]

Which btw is something noteworthy. 3 people have questioned kawe's role and thought he may be something different. Those 3 people were Mouseh, Vorte and Archz

Well the FACTS are that last night one of our were gunned down by a vigilante.

And Kawe pretty much would've had to predicted that the vigilante would use his kill during that night.

[22:59] <kawe> nach, if I was wrong, sorry o/
[22:59] <delling> my favorite app is iNoob
[22:59] <Shiftey> !
[22:59] <kawe> otherwise, die rebel scum

And the vigilante who actually did the killing would've had to remain silent and just watch us trust the wrong guy.

[Shiftey]

Dont make me search through IRC logs Archz...

[Archz]

Do the Wookie keep people from posting, as well as voting? The vigilante could've told the wrong person (maybe even Kawe influenced him to kill Nach), sent the wookie on him and now he knows all our roles ^^

Disregard that last post, they can still speak

[Tyler]

Vote: Tyler

Very suspicious! First I though you were just a blue trying to fly under the radar, but that grows less and less likely.

Also, you made Emptyy waste his instantkill on someone who was dead sure getting lynched? Leaving us less time to get a proper vote, and we'd still not trust Emptyy after it.

I think the plan was from the beginning (or quickly after it) to sell Delling down the river. I can't see any reason Daekesh would make sure telling two people, but hide the fact that he told Delling. I think Daekesh only told two people, because I can see no reason for Delling to pop up and go "yeah he told me as well" right before getting killed. Except if it was to cover for someone?

My theory is that Delling getting killed was to get the cop, exonerate Tyler and get Shiftey in the clear.

Why didn't this make your quotelist, Tyler?

That one didn't make the list because it was so laughable. I mean you voted the same as the rebel scum we have just lynched. I didn't think I needed to point out how bad that is.

As for me getting Emptyy to "waste" his kill: it's only a waste if you are scum. Remember some people were not as convinced on Delling as me, Kawe and Vdti for example. The confirmed Rebel kill lead to us being able to nail the others. 

The lynching of Vorte:

Archz:Tyler
Vorte:Tyler

Emptyy:Shankski

Doomslay:Vorte
Graxlos:Vorte
Sintrael:Vorte
Tyler:Vorte
Shiftey:Vorte
Eetion:Vorte
Grishnagh:Vorte(last minute vote after the majority was more than conclusive)

Kendoki:Chippen

Shankski:Emptyy
Chippen:Emptyy
Tronz:Emptyy

If you look at these votes the simplest explaination is that Vorte, Archz and Emptyy are scum. That is why none of them voted for Vorte or Emptyy. Occam's Razor tells us we should usually just pick the simplest solution.

The only question is who to kill first Archz or Emptyy. I think we should split the vote, but go for Archz first. I will eat my hat if he is not the droid. Who else would be dumb enough to roleblock Kawe?

[Archz]

That one didn't make the list because it was so laughable. I mean you voted the same as the rebel scum we have just lynched. I didn't think I needed to point out how bad that is.

Definatly the first imperial to vote the same as a rebel

As for me getting Emptyy to "waste" his kill: it's only a waste if you are scum. Remember some people were not as convinced on Delling as me, Kawe and Vdti for example. The confirmed Rebel kill lead to us being able to nail the others.

All you did was to rush the kill. He would've been lynched. Imagine if we had Emptyys kill the day after and Kawe could've pointed him in the direction of Yoica or Mouse. Imagine what we could've learned then. Killing Delling told us nothing of Emptyy

[Grishnag]

if we didnt kill delling then and there we wouldnt have killed yoica and mouseh or did you just happen to forget that arches?

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

I expect I will die tonight as a confirmed blue.

My earlier accusation of tronz based on this post:
http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg101629#msg101629

According to IRC he logged on to ts at "18:26 <+^Irony^> [TS] * Joins: Tronz" danish time which means he logged on ts more than an hour before posting.

As far as I could be arsed to read up through the log, atleast Kawe and grish were online too.

Was he discussing with his rebel friends how to respond to the accusations or is it just a coincidence.

[Goza]

As the crew gathered the next morning, again, one person was missing.



He might have survived one attack, but finally, the rebel scum got him.

Shiftey the Bounty Hunter has been brutally murdered.

It is now day.

##Day

[Archz]

Hm, well I guess it makes sense that they didn't want to kill the confirmed blue that was going in the right direction. This way it looks like I killed Shiftey since he suspected me ^^

[tronz]

well tbh this was the second time they tried to kill him. so i doubt it has much to do with what he said this night more like they wanted to get rid of an awesome player.

[Grishnag]

Hm, well I guess it makes sense that they didn't want to kill the confirmed blue that was going in the right direction. This way it looks like I killed Shiftey since he suspected me ^^

the fact that you respond like that doesnt help you look less suspicious

##vote: Archz

[Eetion]

As the crew gathered the next morning, again, one person was missing.


He might have survived one attack, but finally, the rebel scum got him.

Shiftey the Bounty Hunter has been brutally murdered.

It is now day.

##Day

##Day 5 ends when exactly palmar / Goza?

Goodies, lynching Vorte was rewarding.
As for our next target, it seems that Archz have been resting peacefully on his ass, as we have taken him to be "stupid/bad" from the beginning of the game and actually havn't bothered to kill him. His very defensive posts lately and combined that he actually followed the close to same vote record as Vorte, He (Archz) should really be our next target.

Day 3
[Vdti.7]: Doomslay, graxlos, Tyler, tronz, Vorte, Archz, Emptyy
[Vorte.6]: Shiftey, Eetion, Kawe, Vdti, Grishnag, Sintrael
[Emptyy.2]: shankski, Chippen
[Chippen.1]: Kendoki

Day 4
[Vorte.7]: Doomslay, Graxlos, Sintrael, Tyler, Shiftey, Eetion, Grishnag
[Tyler.2]: Vorte, Archz
[Emptyy.3]: Tronz, Chippen, Shankski
[Chippen.1]: Kendoki
[Shankski.1]: Emptyy

Pretty stand-out votes

##Vote: Archz

[Palmar]

if goza is around it ends 00:30 on Tuesday morning

otherwise, it ends whenever I get home, I'll be midflight at that time.