Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -

[Grishnag]

do we have to vote today or is it tommorow?

[Eetion]

Lynch is today before 2300 +1gmt Grish - see the vote thread :)

[Skymunken]

Wrong font Grish, use green. Blue is the mod font.

[Palmar]

This is why I shouldn't play with people who don't know how mafia works.

Day 1 lynch is shaky, at best. So this is the point in the game where we can apply policy lynches. Claiming to be scum is in my book something that needs to be policy lynched.

The logic that we can always lynch him later is terrible, because assuming he's red we remove one scum from the potential pool of players to be lynched. Assuming normal balance in a 12 player game, that would decrease our odds of hitting scum from 25% (purely rng) 3/12 to 18% 2/11.

So, unless someone can convince me TTaM is town, I see no reason not to lynch him. I mean, it is true that his claim makes no sense as either town or scum. But what are you going to do if we keep him around? We're always going to have to kill him at some point simply because YOU KILL PEOPLE WHO CLAIM SCUM.

Day 1 is the day where we have the least amount of information available, it makes perfect sense to take what's given to use and lynch matt.

[Palmar]

I can't decide of Palmar is being lazy or scummy...

You're usually way more thorough than this.

How do you know, do you have anything to back this claim up?

[Palmar]

Just to point out a few obvious things. It seems quite likely skymunken is town, I'm not sure about Eetion but he could possible be town too.

I obviously have no idea how to read half of IE.

There's actually a chance yoica is town, but I wouldn't bet my head on it.

[Eetion]

As i said in my earlier post regarding the TTaM problematic, my thoughts are still not convinced that he can be any sort of scum. It just seems so unlogical to do such a claim, unless your obligated to by your role really. Atleast i cant find any sense in the action at all, and i generally see it as an typical "Archz" approach to the game.

I can see why we would lynch him, but i cant help to see that you really push this really hard Palmar, which concern me a bit, Both Surim, hug and Nach stated a slight fishyness about you, and i cant help to think that you could be pulling something like you did last mini-game where you pretty much fooled everyone and made a master play (even 2 games in a row).

I'm saying this even though i really generally do not see you as Red, but based on your superior gameplay knowledge i cant help to keep thinking in the back of my head that you might have another masterplan.

[Eetion]

Even though things talk to vote Kesh, i my vote is going else where. I picked Surim for a couple of reasons:
He quickly wanted RNG vote, which relaly doesnt help town a whole lot.

Title: Re: Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -
Post by: Surim on March 04, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
Sounds good. How we going to RNG it?

This post is generally what concern me the most. I mean revealing blues are generally really bad.

Title: Re: Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -
Post by: Surim on March 05, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
what would the harm of revealing a Blue to possibly get a Red's name? I would still stand by my previous statement saying that Matt could reveal a person who he claims is red, but in fact isnt and we would land up lynching a fellow townie.

This is mainly why i think Surim might be part of the Townies and is why he gets my vote for today.

[Eetion]

Might _not_ be part of the townies - my head was a bit infront of my fingers doing that post ^^

[Skymunken]

Reading Eetions posts makes me wonder about Surim, but seriously it\s tough to know.

Anyone could be red!

[Surim]

Eetion, I meant it more as a question. This is my second time playing and I am not sure of the difference between the green and blues. There was no hidden message to read into it. Should probably have been more clean and wrote it in mod colours. Meh.

[Cwave]

do we have to vote today or is it tommorow?

Vote deadline is in 3 hours. 23:00 GMT +1.

[Cwave]

Vote count atm with 3 hours to go:

[Surim.2]: Eetion, Skymunken
[TTaM.2]: Palmar, Maix
[Grishnag.1]: Hugman 
[Palmer.1]: Surim 


Not voted yet:
Grilldyret
Grishnag
Nachmanun
TTaM
Tyler
Yoica

[Palmar]

I actually don't like the Surim lynch. There's nothing in his filter that screams one alignment or the other.

I'd much rather just kill MaTT for derp.

[Tyler]

I can't see past voting for TTaM. "I'm a red" is just impossible to ignore. As Palmar says we will be wondering about him all game if we don't vote for him. Some of the other posts are a bit sus, but nothing like that elephant in the room.

I do think it is quite likely that TTaM has some special, so lets see what it is.