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[Daekesh]

Great piece.  There was some discussion about making it our national anthem at some point I think.  Doubt it got anywhere, though.

Trouble is, as great as it is, I don't find anything that links that Britain to the one in reality... so it doesn't really work.

[Fatalbone]

 I am starting to think destro is trolling. I am quoting from you for the second time so you can see what you said. You can also look at your post.

1)"Not really, the strain it would put on the rest of europe would be insane, hence why most european countries are throwing money at turkey to build them up so that when they join they wont drag everyone else down."


There is no migration mentioned here. But when you add migration context later it makes sense (in your head of couse). Migration doesn't bring anyone down. Abusing cheap labor is good for economy. Bad for social environment if it is not controlled.


Evidence for greece and italy etc draining money is eu budget report which you can find by looking at eu website.

2)"but i personally dont see it being any real benefit as you guys have stabbed us in the back too many times whilst in iraq and afghanistan."

Is it Turkey trying to punish us for not letting them in the EU? or will the snake bullshit continue if they are let in?"

You are talking about Iraq and Afganistan (in which afganistan part is comletely wrong) which were invaded by NATO controlled by america and few european troops. There is much more european troops in Afganistan. But somehow afganistan and America is not related to topic which makes my arguments null and void. Also your invisible examples of "too many backstabing" makes it hard for me to argue about them.


Your posts are very emotional and aggressive unlike other people from Netherlands or Germany. It is kind of interesting. It sounds like someone from serbia or turkey.

[Fatalbone]

-Yes turkey is not rich country BUT it has a big economy. "strain it would put on rest of the eu" won't be so much different than polland romania and bulgaria. Considering the level of corruption in the last one.

Poland is propably the country that delt the best with recent economic crisis from whole EU, or at least thats what statistics were showing like 3-4 months ago.

Yes I heard about it. I have a polish friend who likes to talk about poland a lot. They managed it because of their euro policies or something. I meant the strain when they first become a member.


Also I forgot about the cyprus thing. It is not very relevant but like 10 years before the actual war Turkey wants a peace keeping operation done in Cyprus over the massacres. there are 3 countries that are "guaranteer" or something. (greece, turkey, england) So Turkey wants a joint operation with England but England denies than Turkey plans do it by itself but American President send a letter that says any action will result in pulling up nato troops and leaving Turkey with Soviets. Which is actually a huge diplomatic insult. That event changes the foreign policy of Turkey and trust in NATO wanes. Ah also NATO put a nuclear bomb in a Turkish base without even notifying the Turkey and makes it a nuclear target. (That nuclear bomb is the reason of cuban missle crisis)


Destro when you talk about gasing a race who are living in your country you generally get emotional death wishes

[Nachmanun]

Immigration with shitty politics make people racist, new and exciting.

I went to Turkey, most turks weren't great, but some were. Best immigrants sweden have are the serbs, they're loud obnoxious and hilarious (and they own 80+% of the kebaberias) and turks are somewhere under there. Our immigrant turks are OK as a matter of fact... But the fucking somalians and albanians should be shoo'd away at the border.

[Destro]

Read the quotes if your really interested.

[Sertth]

Well maybe its my english but I really mean there was i hope he doesnt make the same mistake again and dont point a knife to another human being. And honestly think you would not stand a chance against me as im practicing wing-tsun over 7 years now unless you are a muay-thai/thai-box combatant or a pro full-contact kickboxer. Even more in my whole life I've never been knifepointed outside the dojo, really wonder what kind of situation lead to that.
Regardless of that you sound like an adolescent; violent and fascist and think your wise arguments on politics are the voice of reason. Unfortunately its not.

PS: this is not a challenge so save yourself about the ass kicking part, I am very disturbed with this thread already and wont check anymore.

[Destro]

Read the quotes if your really interested.

[Nachmanun]

Oh yeah, well I've done over 9000 hours of Ninpo Bunshin Jutsu and I can slap your shit so fast it won't even have time to leave your asshole, I surf 4chan on a daily basis and I also kicked santa straight in the face as a child

One time this Albanian came up with a knife and I hit him so fucking furiously that his mother got bruised and sued me, so I fucked her straight in the god damn eyeball so hard that I'm now banned in all american states apart from Georgia and Cali, I also have had dishes named after me in Mexico.

Jui Jutsu is based on my mothers cooking skills and my father is 800 years old, between his eyes. My dick is so big that I once shoved a baseball bat in my urethra and in my sparetime I drink so much tea that I made india bankrupt.

Have at me

[Destro]

Read the quotes if your really interested.

[Nachmanun]

To me who is an innocent bystander, it's basically a story about

RED CORNER
Defensive Turk

BLUE CORNER
Angry brit

And they both know Karate that could kill your ancestors and NO ONE IS FUCKING WINNING.

[Destro]

To me who is an innocent bystander, it's basically a story about

RED CORNER
Defensive Turk's

BLUE CORNER
Angry brit

And they both know Karate that could kill your ancestors and NO ONE IS FUCKING WINNING.

Fixed

[Fatalbone]

Forgot the iraq there. What I meant was there are more european troops in afganistan compared to iraq because of UN. I noticed your racism is stemming from your experiences. Someone pointed knife to me before (actually 3 people) so I can relate to your hate but unfortunately all of them were turkish and I went to police rather than fighting with anyone. Problems stemming from immigration can only be solved at communal level and requires empathy and understanding rather than baseball bats.

"you sound like an adolescent; violent and fascist and think your wise arguments on politics are the voice of reason. Unfortunately its not."

You definately sound like this but that might be caused by your emotional arousal about the topic

[Destro]

Read the quotes if your really interested.

[Goza]

I'm still worried about the moustaches.

Also, I got into two car accidents. Both times turkish drivers crashed into me. My lovely car!

I'll give it up to Nach to make sense out of this.

[delling]

re: Nationalism (which is really behind all this argument ) -- I don't think any kind of nationalism is good nationalism.

Nationalism has caused almost every conflict in history. It's the belief that you are more important (and valuable) than them. It created racism. Even religious stuff is similar to nationalism -- there's no real rationale behind Christian/Muslim conflict, just that they are _different_. They're not us.

I don't think what you get during sports is nationalism. That's competition -- that's games. Obviously if you start physically attacking the opposition that's something else!

Personally, I just can't begin to imagine what it's like to divide a population into THEM and US. I just see everyone as people, HUMANITY. The idea that your life and well-being is more important than anyone else's is so, so stupid.